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I don't know what I can tell you other than that these things were readily apparent to me the moment I looked at the screens. Is it not possible to be annoyed at something without apparently trying to find things to dislike?

 

Sure there's a difference, I suppose the people who care about Samus as a character more would notice more easily compared to others. I for one don't see it as that big a deal, and don't think she looks that different. Wrap it up as another agreement to disagree, I guess.

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Might as well throw in my two cents. I don't think the design is bad or problematic on it's own (then again, I can't really notice a difference in breast size from Brawl, and I've been comparing in-game screens since this debate started). HOWEVER, 1) I won't argue with people who do have problems with it because there's no real point in doing so and 2) the outright fanservice in the way certain screenshots are taken does bother me. I don't remember any official Brawl screenshots that did this--though I'm sure it happened--but either way, I think it's worth complaining about.
 
So I shall.
 
Seriously, Sakurai/whoever is taking screens, is stuff like the one Discoid included up there necessary? Really?

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All I payed attention to was her heels and how they're kicking some ass. So, I never noticed anything about Zero Suit Samus and her overall design. However, I must also ask why Sakurai/Whoever is taking many subjective shots of Samus in those certain angles?

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The suspiciously voyeuristic screenshots are something I will agree on.  One or two I expect, I mean there are some dramatic angles and poses that will just look sexy regardless, but there's no reason the one Discoid posted there wouldn't have shown off the pose just as well from a side angle.

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To avert from the ZSS discussion, new 'leak' yo:

 

 

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I'm not convinced, though props to this guy for making one of the more convincing leaks I've seen in a while.

 

 

Hm... It does seem a little legit I guess. Although some people have been pros at Photoshopping these "leaks." I gotta admit, this does seem pretty impressive.

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To avert from the ZSS discussion, new 'leak' yo:

 

 

Blqd8CvCUAAcVNH.jpg

 

 

I'm not convinced, though props to this guy for making one of the more convincing leaks I've seen in a while.

 

Some of the art is bogus. That Wario is from Brawl, for example.

 

Also Chrom's name, in the Japanese version, is spelled "Krom."

 

lovely UI though

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Ice Climbers just "Ice Climber" in Japan?

 

This too. 

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To avert from the ZSS discussion, new 'leak' yo:

 

 

Blqd8CvCUAAcVNH.jpg

 

 

I'm not convinced, though props to this guy for making one of the more convincing leaks I've seen in a while.

 

oh we've been talking about that on gonintendo forum since yesterday evening, its totaly fake, especialy considering the amount of fighters and no additional new comers

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Some of the art is bogus. That Wario is from Brawl, for example.

 

Also Chrom's name, in the Japanese version, is spelled "Krom."

 

lovely UI though

 

Aye the Wario art caught my attention as well.  However, I believe Chrom would still be spelt Chrom.  If they had their Japanese names, Marth would be Marusu and Ike would be Aiku which of course is not the case in Melee or Brawl.

 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Ice Climbers just "Ice Climber" in Japan?

 

This is true actually (or at least that's definitely the case in Brawl).  As you can see here

 

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Aye the Wario art caught my attention as well.  However, I believe Chrom would still be spelt Chrom.  If they had their Japanese names, Marth would be Marusu and Ike would be Aiku which of course is not the case in Melee or Brawl.

Wouldn't Chrom be Kuromu, then?

Although looking at it, Krom might have been a bad attempt at fan translation that got really popular which is why I'm seeing people say it's his JP name, haha. 

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The "READY TO FIGHT" text also obscures the names of the fighters on the fourth row. Bad text placement/design.

Not really, considering everyone's already picked their characters by the time this text appears. 

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Melee covered more. 

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Hey you guys, I just realized, every nintendo series with a minigame in NL has a rep, except 2, one of which(balloon fight) does have a stage and a little rep being a recovery move for villager.... perhaps there is more than just a small chance of Takamaru being playable after all...

 

oh and this is his most recent appearance, in Samurai warriors 3

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and the artwork from the original game
75px-Takamaru.png

 

could be kinda intersting, and would get the japanese fanbase to be quiet about not enough japanese reps. though I would hope they would go for samurai tools more than just a sword moveset, we dont need another pure swordsman

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If that's the final roster that's disappointing. I guess we'll find out soon, but we've barely got any new characters whatsoever. The past two games had far more new characters.

Yeah, though if this is real (which I don't think it is since the character select screens normally only use the face for characters on the icons and not a whole body picture) it could be before everyone is unlocked.

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To avert from the ZSS discussion, new 'leak' yo:

 

 

Blqd8CvCUAAcVNH.jpg

 

 

I'm not convinced, though props to this guy for making one of the more convincing leaks I've seen in a while.

 

 

Totally fake, some of the portraits looks off and seem to be using the Brawl models for some of the characters.

 

I like how the character select look though. 

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oh we've been talking about that on gonintendo forum since yesterday evening, its totaly fake, especialy considering the amount of fighters and no additional new comers

The amount of fighters is 39. That's the same amount of total characters as in Brawl (if you count switchables). I'm also having a hard time finding a lot of those artworks. Falco, there's an artwork I've found that's very similar, but still different. Captain Falcon, Chrom, Ness, Jigglypuff, and Ganondorf's artworks all look brand new. Jigglypuff and Wario look identical to past games, and Mr. Game and Watch also looks new.

As much as I hate to admit it, I think its legit.

 

EDIT: I'm not sure. I still can't find half the artworks in that. Faking about eight artworks or so? I find that hard to believe. Maybe it is, I dunno. The UI looks good, though. Admittedly, I think they would zoom in on the faces, so that throws me off.

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I wouldn't be too fussed if that was the final roster, honestly. Not every new Smash Bros game needs to add 15 new characters. Plus, this set of newcomers is the most unique we've ever had. 

 

 

Hell, for all we know that might just be the starting lineup and the unlockable characters aren't displaying yet.

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The amount of fighters is 39. That's the same amount of total characters as in Brawl (if you count switchables). I'm also having a hard time finding a lot of those artworks. Falco, there's an artwork I've found that's very similar, but still different. Captain Falcon, Chrom, Ness, Jigglypuff, and Ganondorf's artworks all look brand new. Jigglypuff and Wario look identical to past games, and Mr. Game and Watch also looks new.

As much as I hate to admit it, I think its legit.

 

There is a program called "Brawl Box" where you can make hacks and such but there is a feature where you can pose models.

 

The leaker probably used the "Smash 3" hack ( http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=18108&Moderated=All ), open the model up in Brawl Box, pose them, taken a screen shot, and add it to photoshop.

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There is a program called "Brawl Box" where you can make hacks and such but there is a feature where you can pose models.

 

The leaker probably used the "Smash 3" hack ( http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=18108&Moderated=All ), open the model up in Brawl Box, pose them, taken a screen shot, and add it to photoshop.

 

Alright, that's better. In that case, the only real new render is Chrom, who most people are expecting to replace Ike anyway, so the leak is nothing special and nothing anyone isn't already expecting. People would hate this leak, though, because it literally is just the Brawl roster with a couple of replaced characters.

 

In fact, yeah, comparing the characters together, the new ones look significantly better than the new returning characters. That Chrom render is the only thing throwing me off, but one render can be generated far easier.

Thanks for the clarification, now I feel better again and await Sakurai debunk this by announcing Ike. :P (FYI, I wouldn't be surprised if Ike does get replaced by Chrom, but at the same time, I don't think Ike will get replaced.)

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Meta Knight looks really stupid without his cape

You can't see Meta Knight's cape in every pose. Take a look at this one:

 

http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/b/b5/Metaknight1.jpg

Source: http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl_-_WII/Meta_Knight

 

 

Unless that's an alt or something... and on that note, that pretty much debunks this whole thing, as this model looks IDENTICAL to the "render" used for Meta Knight in the above character select screen.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, that's definitely not an alt. Does he just not show off his cape in-game except in certain circumstances? I don't see his cape at all in any of these shots on that Wiki Cheats page, except for the render at the top.

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His cape and his wings are actually one and the same, in canon and in Smash. His cape will form into his wings if Meta Knight's dashing, double jumping, or performing his Mach Tornado or Shuttle Loop.

Only reason Meta Knight looks weird with his wings in that picture is because we're so accustomed to cape!Meta Knight by this point.

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