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Shulk seems like he could be cool, but Xenoblade Chronicles had a really limited release in North America, and it's super expensive right now, so I never got the chance to play it. He's gonna be the one character in this game I don't really know about. :[

 

Isn't that part of the charm of Smash Bros sometimes though?  I remember when I first played Melee and I didn't know most of the characters (granted I was 7 or 8 when I first played Melee).  Who are Captain Falcon and Marth and Ness?  'Who cares they're fun to play' is basically what I thought back then.  I remember loving Roy back in the day and I thought he was super cool.  I didn't even touch his game until about 8 years later.  It's cool just to discover new characters and the sort of stuff they can do.

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Isn't that part of the charm of Smash Bros sometimes though?  I remember when I first played Melee and I didn't know most of the characters (granted I was 7 or 8 when I first played Melee).  Who are Captain Falcon and Marth and Ness?  'Who cares they're fun to play' is basically what I thought back then.  I remember loving Roy back in the day and I thought he was super cool.  I didn't even touch his game until about 8 years later.  It's cool just to discover new characters and the sort of stuff they can do.

That's true. It's pretty nice. I think we had a thread about that a few years ago.

 

Haha. As a kid I thought Captain Falcon was Samus' enemy or rival since they were both bounty hunters and he had darker colors xD

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Isn't that part of the charm of Smash Bros sometimes though?  I remember when I first played Melee and I didn't know most of the characters (granted I was 7 or 8 when I first played Melee).  Who are Captain Falcon and Marth and Ness?  'Who cares they're fun to play' is basically what I thought back then.  I remember loving Roy back in the day and I thought he was super cool.  I didn't even touch his game until about 8 years later.  It's cool just to discover new characters and the sort of stuff they can do.

The difference is that I'm older now, and also I've been aware of who Shulk is for a few years. I'm just not able to play his game without shoving out some serious dollah bills because it's way too goddamn expensive. 

 

I fail to find anything charming in that. :[

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But isn't that just the type of series to only represent in Smash Run? Like, they couldn't think up anything as a playable character, but still wanted to show the series somehow.

 

By the way, who is the enemy again? I recall Xenoblade having that Leeker looking monster, but I'm blanking on what Rhythm Heaven had.

That's a fair argument, but like I said I think if they were going to take enemies from an unrepresented series they'd take one from a series that actually has enemies. Why would they go through the effort of including a fightable enemy with AI and everything despite it being from a series that doesn't even have enemies instead of just making an Assist Trophy? Like I said, it would probably only be in Smash Run if it had to be, otherwise there are far better choices for unrepped series' with enemies. Making a Smash Run enemy is probably more work than making an Assist Trophy.

 

Rather than think that Rhythm Heaven is just the type of series to only be rep'd in Smash Run, consider that if Rhythm Heaven didn't have a playable rep, an Assist Trophy is just the type of way to rep a series like Rhythm Heaven. Not an enemy of all things.

 

You just said "they couldn't think up anything as a playable character", why do you say that? Because there are no real main characters in Rhythm Heaven? Using that logic, why use an enemy instead when there are no real enemies in Rhythm Heaven either? If they could scrape the Rhythm Heaven barrel enough to find something to call an enemy in a series where almost everything is happy go lucky, then they of course could think of a playable character.

 

This is the enemy by the way.

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That's a fair argument, but like I said I think if they were going to take enemies from an unrepresented series they'd take one from a series that actually has enemies. Why would they go through the effort of including a fightable enemy with AI and everything despite it being from a series that doesn't even have enemies instead of just making an Assist Trophy? Like I said, it would probably only be in Smash Run if it had to be, otherwise there are far better choices for unrepped series' with enemies. Making a Smash Run enemy is probably more work than making an Assist Trophy.

 

Rather than think that Rhythm Heaven is just the type of series to only be rep'd in Smash Run, consider that if Rhythm Heaven didn't have a playable rep, an Assist Trophy is just the type of way to rep a series like Rhythm Heaven. Not an enemy of all things.

 

You just said "they couldn't think up anything as a playable character", why do you say that? Because there are no real main characters in Rhythm Heaven? Using that logic, why use an enemy instead when there are no real enemies in Rhythm Heaven either? If they could scrape the Rhythm Heaven barrel enough to find something to call an enemy in a series where almost everything is happy go lucky, then they of course could think of a playable character.

 

This is the enemy by the way.

No, no, it was just a hypothetical.

 

I think making an enemy is easier, though, since they need far less attacks. They just need one or two basic actions, so you can make pretty much anything into one.

 

I was thinking having something as an Assist Trophy, too, I even had it typed up, but I thought it might not be relevant quite yet. laugh.png But, yeah, I can totally see that happening, too (Assuming of course the rumour isn't true)

 

As for using other series over RH, I mean, I could see other otherwise unrepresented series getting in like this, too, so I don't really see it as getting in over anything.

 

Thanks for the answer to my question.

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I don't know if people actually saw a Xenoblade monster in Smash Run, I've only heard some people say they thought they saw it, but it hasn't appeared in any footage so I think it was probably just a rumour that caught fire. Also, Smash Wiki doesn't mention anything about it.

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Apparently I saw people saying it was a Verdant Bluchal, the lowest level Unique Monster in the game (or maybe just a Caterpile enemy in general).  I personally think that's actually a fairly odd choice and I'd honestly think they'd opt for one of the standard types of Mechon instead.  Though I personally haven't seen evidence of it either.

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Shulk using Monado Arts for his Smash Attacks and the Monado Buster as his Final Smash would be pretty beast. I'm in love with Xenoblade Chronicles so seeing him in this game would be even better...plus he's a cool guy too.

 

Monado Armour or Shield and Monado Speed should definitely be used as moves. They are pretty self explanatory so I'm not gonna say what they do.

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Now, the thing is he says a new Fighter. Not a newcomer... just a new fighter. Granted, This is all me being hopeful... but what if he's reworked some of the older characters? Like... Ganondorf? Or Mewtwo? Perhaps Jigglypuff?

 

Just a thought here. I know we're all jumping on the newcomer wagon, but y'never know.

 

 

That and I also have no idea who Shulk is. So I don't care 'bout him too much yet. Smash is a good place to introduce him to me though!

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Now, the thing is he says a new Fighter. Not a newcomer... just a new fighter. Granted, This is all me being hopeful... but what if he's reworked some of the older characters? Like... Ganondorf? Or Mewtwo? Perhaps Jigglypuff?

 

Just a thought here. I know we're all jumping on the newcomer wagon, but y'never know.

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The way this is worded and the way he references Directs and the "new challenger videos" (which have only been done for Newcomers until now) has led most people to believe it's probably a Newcomer. You never know though, a vet could be shown alongside a Newcomer, like Charizard was.

 

Still, imo we won't see Ganon or Jiggly before launch, I reckon they're secret characters like Ness and the good Captain.

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Now, the thing is he says a new Fighter. Not a newcomer... just a new fighter. Granted, This is all me being hopeful... but what if he's reworked some of the older characters? Like... Ganondorf? Or Mewtwo? Perhaps Jigglypuff?

 

Just a thought here. I know we're all jumping on the newcomer wagon, but y'never know.

 

 

That and I also have no idea who Shulk is. So I don't care 'bout him too much yet. Smash is a good place to introduce him to me though!

He specifically said that normally the reveal these in Directs. Only Newcomers are revealed in Directs.

 

Btw, I heard that the Xenoblade developer retweeted the Smash Bros. Direct announcement as well. If this is the case then it really means nothing for Shulk.

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He specifically said that normally the reveal these in Directs. Only Newcomers are revealed in Directs.

 

Btw, I heard that the Xenoblade developer retweeted the Smash Bros. Direct announcement as well. If this is the case then it really means nothing for Shulk.

Apparently not this guy. Allegedly the writer that retweeted Monday's character announcement only retweeted directs that had Xenoblade/X content in them. I'm pretty sure there was another Monolith guy who did retweet a Smash direct. 

 

Not sure. Either way though I wouldn't dismiss it. 

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Learning about new characters is pretty cool in smash but its not enough for me to try out their games. I'm now just playing Kirby and Pokemon's latest games for my own interest lol.

When I joined the smash games in brawl I was wondering who all these characters like fire emblem series, starfox series and I didn't even know about Wario having his own series.

The many bios from trophies are gonna be interesting to read from this one. That's one of the things I like about smash. I like to learn who I'm playing as and see what they are about.

Even though there's Google but what's the fun in that. Lol

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Apparently not this guy. Allegedly the writer that retweeted Monday's character announcement only retweeted directs that had Xenoblade/X content in them. I'm pretty sure there was another Monolith guy who did retweet a Smash direct. 

 

Not sure. Either way though I wouldn't dismiss it.

It was Tetsuya Takahashi Wife, and Xenogears writer Soraya Saga.

But whenever Xenoblade chronicles x is going to be shown in a Nintendo direct she retweets the announcement.

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I guess I'm not super sure what to expect on Monday then.. I won't get my hopes too high for Shulk incase this guy is inconclusive, but I think Shulk has a decent chance.

 

Also yeah Smash Bros. has a history of getting me into games too.. when I first got Smash Bros. 64 as a kid, the only characters I knew were the Mario ones, the Pokémon ones, DK, Yoshi, and Fox. I'd heard of/seen others, but I still thought Link was called Zelda, and I still thought Samus was a robot called Metroid (no joke, Smash is the game that taught me otherwise). I'd also never seen Kirby before, but I loved his design. Falcon and Ness were total mysteries to me.

 

Then in Melee, I knew most of the roster and had gotten into Zelda and Metroid thanks to Smash 64, but Ice Climbers, G&W and the Fire Emblem guys were totally new to me. I think Melee fast-tracked me into getting into tons of series' that I'm now into today, I may not have ever tried out Metroid, Kirby, F-Zero, Mother or Fire Emblem (FE is the only one I never really got into) if not for the Smash series. So I hope that if SSB4 is and continues to be popular with a new generation of gamers, that many of them show interest in some of the series' that really deserve to be played.

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He specifically said that normally the reveal these in Directs. Only Newcomers are revealed in Directs.

Charizard was revealed at the end of the Smash Direct though.

 

Either way, I can easily see why people are assuming it's a Newcomer. Heck, I'm mostly expecting it as well. I just also see that he didn't state it exactly as a newcomer. So... under that assumption, I thought it might be a Veteran. But we won't know till Monday! Thank goodness is only two days... I couldn't wait much longer then that!

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Charizard was revealed at the end of the Smash Direct though.

 

Who was essentially a semi newcomer due to becoming a solo character.  And the focus of the trailer was clearly Greninja, the full newcomer.  Zard was the support.

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Who was essentially a semi newcomer due to becoming a solo character.  And the focus of the trailer was clearly Greninja, the full newcomer.  Zard was the support.

It still is a reveal of a veteran, more or less. Just adding a move doesn't make them a semi-newcomer. I mean, did Mario become a newcomer in Brawl by suddenly having FLUUD?

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It still is a reveal of a veteran, more or less. Just adding a move doesn't make them a semi-newcomer. I mean, did Mario become a newcomer in Brawl by suddenly having FLUUD?

 

No, he became a semi newcomer because he's no longer tied to Squirtle and Ivysaur under the Pokemon Trainer.  He's now very much an individual character as opposed to a component of one.  You could argue the same with Zelda and Sheik but the difference between them is that you could very easily play them individually.  The Pokemon Trainer Pokes required you to play all three.

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When I first played Melee back in 2004, I only knew the Mario and Pokémon cast. Kirby I was sort of familiar with since I'd seen his games in many a videogame store. The Zelda cast was still a curiosity though again I was familiar with it, but everything else was a total mystery since I'd never really played many Nintendo games back then. I was more into the Playstation 1 and 2 (those were the only consoles we had!) and I never owned an N64 or SNES. No Nintendo consoles until the Gamecube, and we only ever had a regular ol Gameboy.

 

Now as for Brawl, the only ones I didn't recognise in that game were Pit, Ike and Lucas. By the time that came out I was already very much into Nintendo and knew about almost all the games and characters. There is no character in SSB4 that I don't recognise now! =3

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It'll be Krystal along with confirming Falco and/or Wolf, ending in "Year of Star Fox, Bitches," with a smart bomb exploding behind the text, and then I'll be really happy while the internet blows up that it wasn't Shulk or something :U.

 

...

 

Or yeah it's whatever you guys are saying, sure wynaut

 

seriously though I do hope the 3 minute video means it includes another veteran returning or something XD

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It'll be Krystal along with confirming Falco and/or Wolf, ending in "Year of Star Fox, Bitches," with a smart bomb exploding behind the text, and then I'll be really happy while the internet blows up that it wasn't Shulk or something :U.

 

...

 

Or yeah it's whatever you guys are saying, sure wynaut

 

seriously though I do hope the 3 minute video means it includes another veteran returning or something XD

The only logical explanation for a 3-minute video is a Villain Trailer.

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I've been looking through the pic of the days and I was wondering which pic is your favorite?

Favorite reveal? Favorite funny pic? Favorite cool pic?

My favorite reveal is when sonic was announced. http://smashbros-miiverse.com/images/daily/h110/daily-2013-10-01.jpg"]http://smashbros-miiverse.com/images/daily/h110/daily-2013-10-01.jpg

My favorite funny pic is when Donkey Kong was being targeted by the dragoon. http://smashbros-miiverse.com/images/daily/h110/daily-2014-05-09.jpg

My favorite cool pic was when Sonic, Mario, Mega man and pacman were posing together.http://smashbros-miiverse.com/images/daily/h110/daily-2014-06-13.jpg

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