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If Nintendo was indeed the one to deny Snake, him doing well here would show Nintendo that they possibly made the wrong decision, no?

I'd say Nintendo being the problem with Snake's return is the more desirable choice here.

Again, the main issue behind it is that if Nintendo chose not to bring back Snake, its probably due to the fact that Konami have not been supporting Nintendo consoles. That has absolutely nothing to do with how many people want Snake in the game. If they chose to leave out Snake, they flat-out knew they'd be alienating a lot of fans but did it anyway.

 

I'm sure they were well aware that, yes, Snake was a popular character in Brawl, this wasn't about the fans. It was about Konami's lack of support for Nintendo with the MGS franchise, so they handed that to other companies' franchises who were supportive of Nintendo in the past.

 

 

We'll have to see how things play out, of course. If another third-party got pretty high as well, they might consider looking towards someone else who is actually supporting Nintendo hardware. (Or perhaps even considering a different Konami character/franchise who is more associated with Nintendo.)

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I know what you are saying. I'm saying if Nintendo sees how many people still want him, they could change their stance. That happening is more likely than if there were any other problems

And for what it's worth, at the time the only recent MGS game was Twin Snakes, other games like MGS2 and 3 were skipped. Now the latest is MGS 3D, with MGS V being skipped. The situation hasn't changed all that much.

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I know what you are saying. I'm saying if Nintendo sees how many people still want him, they could change their stance. That happening is more likely than if there were any other problems

And for what it's worth, at the time the only recent MGS game was Twin Snakes, other games like MGS2 and 3 were skipped. Now the latest is MGS 3D, with MGS V being skipped. The situation hasn't changed all that much.

It's likely that Snake being in Smash was an attempt to improve Nintendo's relations with Konami. When it didn't have the desired effect at all, do you really think Nintendo would go for it again? All that's happened with Konami since Brawl is that they've improved relations with Microsoft and now mainseries MGS games are released are released on every system but Nintendo. The MGS situation with Nintendo is even worse than before, they genuinely can't advertise the series without attracting some people to every system besides theirs.

 

I really don't think third party characters are about how many people want them, they're about how they benefit Nintendo and their relation with other parties.

 

Master Chief is an extremely popular character and if he was in Smash Bros. he would probably sell amazingly and stuff but Nintendo wouldn't really benefit from that at all, other platforms would benefit more than Nintendo and the same could be said for Snake and Banjo.

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And remember, it was Kojima who ask Snake to be in Smash, not Konami.  Back when Smash 4 was announced, somebody asked Kojima on twitter if Snake could possibly return, and he said, if Sakurai ask me, i will give my approbation. But knowing the future of Metal Gear on Nintendo consoles, the chances are almost to zero. But Konami did release a 3DS theme  for Snake Eater, a few years after the game release, so you never know.

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So... I voted for classic Sonic about 54 times, Tails about 49 times, and Steve from minecraft about 47... 

I wonder If I'm cheating....

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Honestly I'm just happy Knuckles has more votes than Shadow more than anything else. :U I can think of five characters I'd prefer to make it in Smash over him.

 

I really doubt guest fighters would even be able to get more than one rep, especially over first/second-party characters and other highly-requested fighters. I think at the very least the top 20 characters is a good basis to see who are the most-requested characters.

 

 

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I will not be silenced.

 

 

And wow that's a lot for Shovel Knight.

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Well, I mentioned voting for Mike Anderson in Falcon(mech suit), so since its the fad, here's my ballot

 

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To clarify I'm voting for THIS

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considered voting for the female pilot in the Tornado suit, but I A) don't know what that one actually looks like, and she only appeared in the second game. And yes this is a Nintendo character, Intelligent Systems made the games, not a high chance of sucess, but you never know

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you know I'm starting to wish that sakurai said like if the character had to be nintendo or not.

Yeah I too wish they'd made a few rules clear like how many votes would be counted or whether third parties would be considered..

 

I guess they just really wanted people to just go nuts and be creative, no holds barred. And they figured the clearest, most common and sensible winners would be the ones worth looking at or something.

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I'mma gonna vote Isaac for sure! I've never played Golden Sun but I think it's a disgrace that there's no Golden Sun rep anywhere to be found in Smash 4 besides some music. His design is cool too and I think his move set has a lot of potential.

And forget about Snake returning guys. It's unlikely he'll ever return in Smash again. =/

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It's all up to Nintendo really, but considering Konami hasn't released a single bloody MGS game on a Nintendo console except for the mediocre 3DS port of Snake Eater I doubt they'd want a third party character who has hardly any history with Nintendo to appear in Smash again.

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Konami seems to be open to the idea of Snake returning, Konami retweeted this.

 

https://twitter.com/DenisBrando/status/583405671246405632

 

As long as Nintendo wants it to happen, Snake will probably be there. Then again, Kojima also wanted it so anything's possible but I don't know. 

Only if Kojima isn't in the credits for Smash 4

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Thinking about that, if the "3 exclusive Sonic WiiU games deal" have not existed... :-/

Sonic probably would've still been in because they probably foresaw the disappointment from a great deal of fans if he hadn't made the cut.

 

Not to say people don't miss Snake, but Nintendo probably got a lot less backlash from him not being in Sm4sh than they would for not having Sonic in.

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I don't think we're limited to just Nintendo characters. As people have said, the actual ballot says "video-game character." 

 

The Nintendo Facebook page exists for promotional purposes, and gushing about Nintendo all the time. It makes sense that they'd say 'Nintendo character,' because Nintendo is all they talk about there. Plus, I think such an important rule would've been stated on the official site, because they have to know that not everyone is going to read their social media, right?

 

With that said, third party characters are probably treated as much lower priority suggestions, so people are gonna have to prove that they really want them. 

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An Inkling would be the most realistic choice, and I'd love to see it happen, anyway.

Honestly, I can't think of another Nintendo-specific franchise that I enjoy that needs a rep. All my favorites are in: From Nintendo, I've got the Mario cast, and now the Villager (very pleased about this, and I main him/her now). Sonic's in too, so that base is covered. Fox is in, Pokemon reps are in... The other games I adored growing up are all non-Nintendo to the point where I'm not sure there would be much point in wasting the effort to vote for them. Stuff like Bub (Bubble Bobble), Klonoa (from his respective series), etcetc. Banjo? I loved Banjo-Kazooie, but I never really pictured him being in a Smash game. I always wanted Sonic in, but that idea felt natural to me given the two mascots' long standing rivalry.

I can't think of anything. Mewtwo is cool, and is unique enough that I peronsally feel he'll end up being a good addition to the roster. Lucas always seemed... too clone-ish for my tastes, and I didn't particularly miss him after he was cut. No disrespect to Lucas fans, of course; I just didn't see the point.  I'm not complaining, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if he had never made it back.


I think, more than new characters, I'd much rather see more brand new, original stages. I'm satisfied with the character lineup at this point, unless they can introduce new characters that are built around unique and interesting ways to play, such as Little Mac, the Villager, and so on and so forth.

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