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To be honest, as far as Rare reps go I personally would've gone with Joanna Dark. There was a sneaky reference to Carrington in Melee, so I'm sure she was on the cards before the MS buyout. And I'm legitimately curious what kind of approach they would have gone with her had Sakurai had the chance.

 

That's not to say I don't see or understand where all the demand for Banjo comes from, though.

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Wait a minute, is the music in the lucus trailer remixed? If so its a possibility that more music could come right?

The second part of the music sounded remixed not the first one

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Yes, at first I thought Konami prevented Snake from getting in, but apparently not. It was Nintendo. That's also why I think Snake will not happen now either, because they were very capable of getting him in before, but Konami is not supporting Nintendo with Metal Gear, so Nintendo does not feel open to the idea of getting Snake into the game.

Shantae I think might be a decent third-party contender, though, since she has pretty much been mostly on Nintendo platforms. Shovel Knight... I don't think Shovel Knight will happen because there's no Japanese support at all. I don't know how much support Shantae has, but Shovel Knight is not in Japan at all right now.

Odds are, though, the characters that would be most likely to make it in are Nintendo characters. Most of the biggest Nintendo characters are already in the game, the only ones I can really think of that are missing are King K. Rool and Dixie Kong. Isaac and Inklings seem to be the top ones right now for new franchises, though Isaac probably has a bit more backing since GS has been around longer.

Inklings mainly have support since Splatoon is coming out very soon while GS has not seen a game in a while. So it is really nice to see how much support GS is still getting even though its last game was 2010. Granted, part of that has to do with his cut AT (which, obviously, he wouldn't have much of any support at all if his AT was still in the game).

Honestly, I am a bit shocked I haven't seen as much Bandana Dee support lately. On Smashboards I hardly see anyone talking about him and not much elsewhere like on Youtube either. SSMB is mostly just talking about third-parties it seems.

Its difficult for me to gauge who the most discussed ones are, but based on everything I've seen King K. Rool does seem to be the top candidate right now (which I expected). I don't know about support for third-parties or anything, I do know that Shovel Knight, Rayman, and Shantae seem to be popular mentions, but again, Shovel Knight has the issue of no Japanese fanbase.

Granted, this is for newcomers. Wolf is by far the top one, but the general consensus is that Wolf is basically guaranteed right now with Lucas already in (who would seem to be the lesser requested character compared to Wolf). Snake is commonly suggested as well but considering the fact that it now appears Nintendo were the ones who denied Snake, I'd say that Snake's odds are slim.

Anyway... K. Rool and Isaac... all I've wanted since the start. ^^

If Nintendo was indeed the one to deny Snake, him doing well here would show Nintendo that they possibly made the wrong decision, no?

I'd say Nintendo being the problem with Snake's return is the more desirable choice here.

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If Nintendo was indeed the one to deny Snake, him doing well here would show Nintendo that they possibly made the wrong decision, no?

I'd say Nintendo being the problem with Snake's return is the more desirable choice here.

Again, the main issue behind it is that if Nintendo chose not to bring back Snake, its probably due to the fact that Konami have not been supporting Nintendo consoles. That has absolutely nothing to do with how many people want Snake in the game. If they chose to leave out Snake, they flat-out knew they'd be alienating a lot of fans but did it anyway.

 

I'm sure they were well aware that, yes, Snake was a popular character in Brawl, this wasn't about the fans. It was about Konami's lack of support for Nintendo with the MGS franchise, so they handed that to other companies' franchises who were supportive of Nintendo in the past.

 

 

We'll have to see how things play out, of course. If another third-party got pretty high as well, they might consider looking towards someone else who is actually supporting Nintendo hardware. (Or perhaps even considering a different Konami character/franchise who is more associated with Nintendo.)

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I know what you are saying. I'm saying if Nintendo sees how many people still want him, they could change their stance. That happening is more likely than if there were any other problems

And for what it's worth, at the time the only recent MGS game was Twin Snakes, other games like MGS2 and 3 were skipped. Now the latest is MGS 3D, with MGS V being skipped. The situation hasn't changed all that much.

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I know what you are saying. I'm saying if Nintendo sees how many people still want him, they could change their stance. That happening is more likely than if there were any other problems

And for what it's worth, at the time the only recent MGS game was Twin Snakes, other games like MGS2 and 3 were skipped. Now the latest is MGS 3D, with MGS V being skipped. The situation hasn't changed all that much.

It's likely that Snake being in Smash was an attempt to improve Nintendo's relations with Konami. When it didn't have the desired effect at all, do you really think Nintendo would go for it again? All that's happened with Konami since Brawl is that they've improved relations with Microsoft and now mainseries MGS games are released are released on every system but Nintendo. The MGS situation with Nintendo is even worse than before, they genuinely can't advertise the series without attracting some people to every system besides theirs.

 

I really don't think third party characters are about how many people want them, they're about how they benefit Nintendo and their relation with other parties.

 

Master Chief is an extremely popular character and if he was in Smash Bros. he would probably sell amazingly and stuff but Nintendo wouldn't really benefit from that at all, other platforms would benefit more than Nintendo and the same could be said for Snake and Banjo.

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And remember, it was Kojima who ask Snake to be in Smash, not Konami.  Back when Smash 4 was announced, somebody asked Kojima on twitter if Snake could possibly return, and he said, if Sakurai ask me, i will give my approbation. But knowing the future of Metal Gear on Nintendo consoles, the chances are almost to zero. But Konami did release a 3DS theme  for Snake Eater, a few years after the game release, so you never know.

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So... I voted for classic Sonic about 54 times, Tails about 49 times, and Steve from minecraft about 47... 

I wonder If I'm cheating....

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Honestly I'm just happy Knuckles has more votes than Shadow more than anything else. :U I can think of five characters I'd prefer to make it in Smash over him.

 

I really doubt guest fighters would even be able to get more than one rep, especially over first/second-party characters and other highly-requested fighters. I think at the very least the top 20 characters is a good basis to see who are the most-requested characters.

 

 

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I will not be silenced.

 

 

And wow that's a lot for Shovel Knight.

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Well, I mentioned voting for Mike Anderson in Falcon(mech suit), so since its the fad, here's my ballot

 

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To clarify I'm voting for THIS

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considered voting for the female pilot in the Tornado suit, but I A) don't know what that one actually looks like, and she only appeared in the second game. And yes this is a Nintendo character, Intelligent Systems made the games, not a high chance of sucess, but you never know

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you know I'm starting to wish that sakurai said like if the character had to be nintendo or not.

Yeah I too wish they'd made a few rules clear like how many votes would be counted or whether third parties would be considered..

 

I guess they just really wanted people to just go nuts and be creative, no holds barred. And they figured the clearest, most common and sensible winners would be the ones worth looking at or something.

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I'mma gonna vote Isaac for sure! I've never played Golden Sun but I think it's a disgrace that there's no Golden Sun rep anywhere to be found in Smash 4 besides some music. His design is cool too and I think his move set has a lot of potential.

And forget about Snake returning guys. It's unlikely he'll ever return in Smash again. =/

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It's all up to Nintendo really, but considering Konami hasn't released a single bloody MGS game on a Nintendo console except for the mediocre 3DS port of Snake Eater I doubt they'd want a third party character who has hardly any history with Nintendo to appear in Smash again.

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Konami seems to be open to the idea of Snake returning, Konami retweeted this.

 

https://twitter.com/DenisBrando/status/583405671246405632

 

As long as Nintendo wants it to happen, Snake will probably be there. Then again, Kojima also wanted it so anything's possible but I don't know. 

Only if Kojima isn't in the credits for Smash 4

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Thinking about that, if the "3 exclusive Sonic WiiU games deal" have not existed... :-/

Sonic probably would've still been in because they probably foresaw the disappointment from a great deal of fans if he hadn't made the cut.

 

Not to say people don't miss Snake, but Nintendo probably got a lot less backlash from him not being in Sm4sh than they would for not having Sonic in.

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