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the ryu and roy leaks were too fake to me.

 

Seriously, for roy they could have easily gotten the other fire emblem's characters win music, and ryu, the music were straight up copies from the original game, now if they were remixes on the other hand, I would buy it, but nope just same old 16 or 8 bit whatever stuff from street fighter 2, if none of you noticed that, then I don't know what to think.

I don't want to sound like I'm jumping on you, but there are several things wrong with this.

 

The way the game handles victory themes is a bit interesting. Every character has their own separate copy of their theme in the game's files, even if it's shared with someone else. For instance, Mario has a file for his victory theme, and Luigi has his own, despite it being an identical piece of music. This means that Roy having his own file for the same track isn't unusual at all. It's actually expected.

 

Secondly, all games have placeholder files. When making a game, designers tend to focus on having the important functional stuff created first, with art and other fluff added later. This includes things like music. Before the game was released, Pacman's victory theme wasn't remixed, it was just taken directly from his other games.

 

And lastly, none of this stuff even matters because the music is still in the game's files, remixed or not. And the titles of the files reference Ryu and Roy

snd_bgm_SF01_SF2_Ryu_3DS
snd_bgm_Z81_F_Ryu_3DS
snd_bgm_Z83_F_Roy_3DS
 
This list was verified by multiple sources, so I don't think it's up for debate. The files are there, and Nintendo wouldn't have the right to use that content without Capcom's permission whether it's accessible or not. 

 

Ryu and Roy technically haven't been confirmed, but I have no idea what these would be doing there if they aren't intended characters for the game. Lucas had his own track put into the game in the same update, by the way, so it's not as if they're above leaving things in that are meant for future updates. 

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Not every piece of music has to be a remix to somehow legitimize a Smash character. That much was already proven ages ago when Sonic used his '06 Level Clear theme verbatim as a victory theme. For the second time.

 

The fact of the matter here is, these files were deliberately left in the patch data by the developers, and several dataminers correlated that fact. That would not even be legal if Nintendo and Capcom hadn't already agreed apon it, so there's a pretty strong chance that something will come of it. How anyone feels about the tunes themselves is completely irrelevant to this fact.

 

the thing is though, sonic's 06 victory theme actually FITS with the rest of the game, its lazy but it fits, and Ryu's win music being a straight up copy of 16 bit music with no changes is very questionable

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the thing is though, sonic's 06 victory theme actually FITS with the rest of the game, its lazy but it fits, and Ryu's win music being a straight up copy of 16 bit music with no changes is very questionable

 

Yet the Pac-Land stage is a thing. Sakurai loves sticking to the roots of the games in Smash, it's unsurprising. 

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the thing is though, sonic's 06 victory theme actually FITS with the rest of the game, its lazy but it fits, and Ryu's win music being a straight up copy of 16 bit music with no changes is very questionable

You mean the best selling game in the series and the last major one with multiple releases on Nintendo(there were what 5 versions on SNES, and all those are on the VC), and one of the most iconic games in the entire series? Its not surprising or suspicious at all

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the thing is though, sonic's 06 victory theme actually FITS with the rest of the game, its lazy but it fits, and Ryu's win music being a straight up copy of 16 bit music with no changes is very questionable

Again, Ryu's music being 16 bit could simply be a placeholder. It's happened with this game before, so this isn't reason enough to try and discredit the leak, especially when alternative explanations to the tracks being in the game's files don't make much sense at all. 

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A thought has been going around on BitForums. Basically it's that Ryu will be announced at E3, with the CEO news being Ryu playable at the event (like a beta version of him or something). That would mean, however, that he'd be nearly complete already, but what do you guys think?

I think it's somewhat likely. They may not announce Ryu at CEO since not every SSB fan watches it, such as casual players.

@Felix :^)

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Well if Ryu is close to completion, Lucas is supposed to be released in June, and Roy also being one of the characters with a victory theme in the game files, I guess we can pretty much assume that all 3 of them will be released next month.

 

I wonder if they're going to make a big deal out of Roy coming back though. I hope so, I love that dude. 

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Again, Ryu's music being 16 bit could simply be a placeholder. It's happened with this game before, so this isn't reason enough to try and discredit the leak, especially when alternative explanations to the tracks being in the game's files don't make much sense at all.

Pretty much. For example at Last Years E3, PAC-Man Victory theme was ripped straight from Ghostly Adventures. In the final game he has an original theme.

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The Mewtwo Club Nintendo Promotion ends soon. Codes need to be redeemed 23:59 AEST of the 31st (tomorrow).

 

I'm not going to use my 3DS code, so if anyone in Australia or New Zealand wants it: A0807A9V0JNXAFTY First come, first served.

 

Edit: aaaand it's gone

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Huh, given how new and fresh it is, as well as the way the art design is, I never really thought they'd even change up the design all that much to fit Smash, but still nice! Still hoping for a Smashfied Sora and Shantae.

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K.K. Slider shooting people with his freakin' guitar? I am SOLD.

 

The hilarity that will ensue as he chases Villager around one of the Smashville stages:

 

"This is what you get for trying to illegally sell my bootlegs, punk!"

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Another few highlights from one of me and Felix's matches.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo8x_fK-ZPU

I literally would've had a chance to win the sudden death had I not done the second strike of Toon's forward smash. Was a really tense game though, the end made me unbelievably mad lmao

I'll bet back at you for this one, bring your Lucina game on comrade

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