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I think the only real reason Miis aren't a For Glory thing is because they didn't want to worry about focusing on moderating the community as much, which shows since so many awful Miiverse posts are brought up in the Miiverse stage.

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I think the only real reason Miis aren't a For Glory thing is because they didn't want to worry about focusing on moderating the community as much, which shows since so many awful Miiverse posts are brought up in the Miiverse stage.

Yeah. Can you imagine how many warnings/bans they'd have to give out to Hitlers and awful racial caricatures?

I guess they could always offer the option to not draw the Mii's custom features clientside so that your opponent always saw generic ones, but that would probably dillute their flavor. 

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I don't understand why they didn't do that as an option but it's not that big a deal since random matches don't allow custom moves anyway, so why would you want to play as Mii.

What is ridiculous though is that Tourneys allow Mii usage don't they?  I'm sure I saw one the other day that was "Miis Only" as the rules, an official generated "regular" one at that.  And they're always with random people so... what's the point if it's a content issue.

 

Regarding Miis as characters, I just can't quite suspend my disbelief in the end.  They're cool to have for like "funny" matchups and stuff, but I don't take any pleasure in playing as my OCs or other characters, because they don't quite look like said characters and they don't have anything like the moveset that character would really have.  I'm a bit of an all-or-nothing person, as nice a gesture as the fanservice provided by the costumes are.  I'd rather play proper characters that are represented in full than play as not-really-Inklings or not-really-Heihachi, etc.   Honestly in my head, simply free updates that add more trophies to the game to collect of all these characters in their regular form would be more fun for my personal Smash experience than stretching them over simplistic cartooney Mii bodies to play as with generic movesets, but that's just me.

Since Miis never show up as random opponents in costumed form either, as a primarily solo Smash player the DLC means nothing to me even as potential opponents (which is why I bought all the character DLC so far even though I have no plans to play any of them beyond Classic and All-Star).

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You know it's interesting, regarding western third parties, there's only one I can see happening, because it's a special case, and that's Banjo-Kazooie because is a very special case, but if they were to happen, I get the feeling it would have ramifications outside of Smash(like Nintendo buying his rights, or at least getting the rights to put his N64 and GBA games on VC.

Fact is Third party is nearing it's end, and if there's going to be another one it's going to be something spectacular, which rules out just about any western IP other than B-K.

Also, It's funny Microsoft technically is both first and third party, since it owns several developers that it still allows to release on several platforms, and creates a number of software used to develop games as well

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I find myself sincerely hoping that the majority of ballot picks are newcomers, mainly because I'd hope that returning veterans wouldn't have to be voted in this wasting potential  slots; rather,  I'm hoping that most veterans will be a Roy/Ryu/MewTwo/Lucas case in terms of getting into Smash 4.

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Training a Little Mac amiibo sure was an unusual experience.

I had to refrain from air attacking, like what I did with the other amiibo I trained. I did more one on ones when training than usual, and I had to feed him equipment to increase his recovery skills. I also tried to get "Mac Baby!" to counter more often. I had him fight my Marth amiibo "Murf", several Countering CPUS and even used Shulk to land more counters, but he still isn't doing it as often as I'd want him to.

He still needs more work.

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Training a Little Mac amiibo sure was an unusual experience.

I had to refrain from air attacking, like what I did with the other amiibo I trained. I did more one on ones when training than usual, and I had to feed him equipment to increase his recovery skills. I also tried to get "Mac Baby!" to counter more often. I had him fight my Marth amiibo "Murf", several Countering CPUS and even used Shulk to land more counters, but he still isn't doing it as often as I'd want him to.

He still needs more work.

Idk if teaching a Mac (or Greninja and Lucario) to use Slip Counter is a good idea considering it (like Substitute and Double Team) have the chance to send you wildly off the screen. 

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Idk if teaching a Mac (or Greninja and Lucario) to use Slip Counter is a good idea considering it (like Substitute and Double Team) have the chance to send you wildly off the screen. 

I see what you mean, I just want the guy to do it a little more, he only successfully used a counter twice throughout his entire journey from Level 1-50. Perhaps the reason why he refrains to counter could be for that reason.

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So uh... @Felix taught me the fun side of customs. As in, the 'screw around like you dont give a fuck' part. As in the best part of just about anything really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIGcLx_2KHc

lmao real talk, I don't think either of us had a clue what we were doing but it doesn't really matter in the long run because it was fun as fuck. In serious play I absolutely loathe customs but they're not too bad when it comes to just completely messing around.

(also, Hyper Shield saves your ass in sudden death. amazing.)

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New tier list courtesy of ya boy ESAM from Panda Global. Still nothing official (aka from the Backroom) but this is one of the best I've seen tbqh.

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Lucario shouldn't be that high and even though I think Lucas is a quite underwhelming character he's definitely not worse than Shulk or G&W. Otherwise, I can get behind this list.

So uh... @Felix taught me the fun side of customs. As in, the 'screw around like you dont give a fuck' part. As in the best part of just about anything really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIGcLx_2KHc

lmao real talk, I don't think either of us had a clue what we were doing but it doesn't really matter in the long run because it was fun as fuck. In serious play I absolutely loathe customs but they're not too bad when it comes to just completely messing around.

oh man this match was so amazing. When we did it and I was Sonic with all speed customs it was even just as beautiful. <3

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New tier list courtesy of ya boy ESAM from Panda Global. Still nothing official (aka from the Backroom) but this is one of the best I've seen tbqh.

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I'm ok with this list for the most part.

I'm with Felix on Lucario being so high. I don't think he's good in Smash 4, even with Aura buffs. He still feels like he's slapping people with paper. And I'm not too fond of Villager either so him being so high makes me go "buah?" I think I get why he's there but eh I'm biased against him.

But yeah I'm ok with this list. Though I'm wondering why DK is right next to Diddy, sidekicks aside. Was he that buffed too? And *sigh* It feels like yesterday we were predicting top tier Bowser and now the dream is dead. :/ O WELL!

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Not likely agreed with this tier list. coming up from the guy who got out by a Ryu this weekend tourney. Its just wrong putting below over an viable rank tier. Ryu has soo many good mobility and viability against top 5 characters from what i do see. Overall i never fell in love in Tier list in smash, a lot of top players do this, but different tier, different opinion or point view of some viable characters.

Also going to do some weekly tomorrow and i do have a regional tourney this weekend, thinking going with Ike since i do love using him so far.

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Not likely agreed with this tier list. coming up from the guy who got out by a Ryu this weekend tourney. Its just wrong putting below over an viable rank tier. Ryu has soo many good mobility and viability against top 5 characters from what i do see.

A notable Ryu main on Smashboards wrote a really length post about him quite possibly being the best character in the game and I'm kind of inclined to agree especially with the fact that he was pretty much created for competitive play and he has so much to give against literally any other fighter, but the command inputs of his specials are pretty much dead center required to use that potential. he has a really scarce amount of players compared to other high tiers probably due to the inputs being difficult to master but I'd love to see him get even more attention beyond just 'high up' and I've been interested in him myself lately.

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You actually linked to one of the guy who 2 stocked Nairo ZSS. he very known to be the best currently with Ryu, You should take a look of someone called HoH_Venom. he has a crazy Ryu. probably high chance to be the best Ryu of Canada either.

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Ok, with us about to enter the 2 week High likelihood period where we are most likely to get the smash direct, I think it's time to throw some new life into this thread for that time period, so it's time for:

Mando's character bingo!

So needless say we all know how bingo works, but here's the rules for this one:

  • 3X3 or 4X4 grid your pick, if you can't choose enough to fill out the lower grid, you can put in a wildcard
  • Third Party characters cannot exceed a half of the board(was tempted to say 4, but I'll give you guys a little slack room)
  • Video game characters only(duh, that's the primary confirmed rule)
  • Character's series must have been on a Nintendo platform, if not character themselves(so no Master Chief guys, nor Steve from Minecraft; This is more to prevent joke rosters than anything, this is for fun, but not to be outright silly)
  • You can take one slot to predict the number of characters to be released/announced and this can include Cloud

So needless to say no real winners or prizes, other than seeing characters you want happen, but there is a nominal booby prize:

If you choose so, you can bet that you will predict a character(or characters, your pick) right, and do a little avatar bet if you lose that you will change your avatar for a week to one of the actually announced characters

So yep this is all in good fun, if you choose to opt in to the booby prize, just state so. Have fun! I'll put in mine soon enough

 

 

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I spent too much time making this fancy. I'm treading Cloud as my free space. Once the characters are announced, I'll update this with the Smash logo over things I got right. I forgot to add free space with the logo onto Cloud, but I'll do that when I update this.

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Note: You can treat this as a personal wishlist of mine, especially Bomberman. I know he pretty much has no chance with Konami being the way they are now- because of them, Hudson is effectively dead. But I do think at least one of my guesses will be right.

2nd Note: I claim no ownership of any of these images. Some are Smashified, some are Nintendo, etc, I pretty much just google image searched them all and grabbed the ones I thought looked best.

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My (hastily MS-painted from a random template and various art sources) bingo card:

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It's partly composed of what I think is most likely to happen and partly my own wishlist. Squares of note are my "sort-of free" space being a prediction that the broadcast will feature more details on Cloud in addition to two new character announcements (Similar to the PrE3 one), Shantae and Shovel Knight being relegated to a singular "indies" space, and, probably my oddest prediction, a Geno Mii Costume. I just figure with Square on for Cloud, it'd be a perfect chance to kill two birds with one stone. (That and I think a Gunner Costume would be a perfect way to include him in Smash considering how obscure he is.)   

 

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Here's my Bingo chart, cuz why not

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These aren't necessarily who I'd want, but they seem the most likely (except Rayman he's just there because I ran out of legitimate picks lolololol)

I also used Cloud as my 'Free Space' placeholder

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Most of my personal picks still haven't changed. I still want the Inlkings to have a proper moveset, I still feel like Joanna Dark would make a nice substitute for most of Snake's more iconic moves, and Alex Roivas from Eternal Darkness still remains my "crazy unlikely but I can dream goddamnit" pick. Beyond that I can't imagine myself being too picky as long as they look fun to play and as long as they're not fucking Goku. I would say Krystal's kind of overdue for some Smash rep but honestly, the newcomer rep as far as DLC is concerned is setting the bar pretty fucking high.

To be honest I'm surprised new reps haven't shown up in Pokeballs and Assist Trophies yet. What's stopping them? I'd honestly prefer ATs for lesser characters over more bloody Mii Fighter costumes that I'm never going to buy.

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