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I think it's more along the lines of "Trish the track attacker, we grab a mic, I smack a spectator, kidnapper". Or something like that at least :P But yeah, spot on.

 

Which sucks because I've had a Masterbits sample pack with that rap for years and never noticed...

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I think it's more along the lines of "Trish the track attacker, we grab a mic, I smack a spectator, kidnapper". Or something like that at least tongue.png But yeah, spot on.

 

Which sucks because I've had a Masterbits sample pack with that rap for years and never noticed...

 

Listening to it again, yeah, what I thought the second "tracker" was does sound more like "attacker". So, I'm gonna lay the final word, I think that famous opening use of it is...

 

"Track a-track a- we grab a mic, I smack-spec". Something along that.

 

Also a quick note, the background "UNH" from Get Edgy (Altitude Limit's theme) can be found in the same sample pack's percussion folder. Very first file.

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Bump.

 

I thought this moment would never, ever come... but it has.

 

Ethno Circus, the theme of Mirage Road.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePg2uZfmRV8

 

We've known for ages that the intro "dun de dun dun de dun dun dun dun" is sampled from The It's Donnie and the high pitched "UGH!" can be found in its original pitch in many sample packs, including Norman Cook's Skip To My Loops. There has, however, been one unfolded mystery... one about taco meat and mask smackers.

 

Of course, I'm talking about the infamous "taco taco meat smacks a mask on my face" (or whatever it is this week) sample.

 

It's from a rap. By a woman.

 

Said rap is a 2 minute sample on Masterbits' Add Lips sample pack, done by a woman with an extremely vulgar vocab-- some lyrics even include lines like "I put a saddle on your back n' ride that ass".

 

Trimming it down though, we have our awaited sample. "Trip the cracker-cracker, we grab a macka-smacker, spectate a kidnapper."

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFm-ZLfyh8

 

Increasing the pitch by 25% and cutting the lyrics to fit exactly to the compressed samples in the Sonic Rush ROM, I was able to make a mockup of the vocals-- without the instrumentation. The "UGH" from Skip To My Loops was kept in for consistency.

 

Make what you will of this. I'm pretty sure this is the origin of this rap and I'm 100% certain Naganuma sampled from it.

 

Well done, my friend.

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So I'm probably infamous for never shutting up about a certain sample search of mine that's been going on for four months now, so I'll stick it in here and turn this thread into a generic Naganuma thread.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZIej-ZraE

 

Yeah, we all know this song. Come on, it's the first one to play when you get into JSRF's actual gameplay.

 

So what sample in particular am I looking at? Those main lead vocals.

 

"High n' a winner, pay the frontline, take the don'ts!

He's comin' out again fo' a new point!

Four four's the point, mark four!

Who wants the hard four? Five wants four.

Ace-deuce craps wants four!

Four n' he made it the hard way!

Pay the frontline, take the hard.

We have a shooter n' a good'un, comin' out fo' a new point!

Get your bets down, ladies n' gentlemen!

He's a-rollin'... point is nine, place nine!

Eight, shootin' fo' nine, five, shootin' fo' nine!

Who wants to become? Got a hot hand!

Place your bets, ladies n' gentlemen! Six to point, place six..."

 

THAT sample.

 

Before anyone thinks of the slightest hint of it being in-house, it mostly certainly isn't. Why? Because this song isn't alone.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK_Hnj-LuLA

 

^ Skip to 0:20 on this song, "boots", composed by Nobuyoshi Sano.

 

 

^ Skip to 8:09 on this song, "Home", composed by Dream Theater.

 

https://ia600707.us.archive.org/30/items/MarkAndBrian-PopularComedyBits/HistoricalInaccuracies-ThanksgivingEditionPart2.mp3

 

^ Skip to 1:45 on this son-- Oh, I'm sorry, I mean radio show, "Historical Inaccuracies - Thanksgiving Edition Part II" by Mark & Brian.

 

https://app.box.com/s/3xi28zqtpthbzbyaut2h

 

^ An excerpt of "Timequake", by Sonus Umbra.

 

This is a total of 5 known uses I am aware of, all by completely different composers. I've been hunting for this thing for 4 months running now... so I figured it was time to get some actual direction.

 

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Above is me asking Naganuma which sample CDs he used for JSRF's compositions-- however, it turns out they were all off his hard drive and he doesn't grasp each CD's name... so that's out of the list.

 

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Above is me asking Nobuyoshi Sano if he recalls where the sample came from. He states it as being from Sound Ideas' series 3000 library, which, when looking into it I found simply a bunch of ambience SFX, no trace of this sample in particular.

 

 

 

Why am I still hunting for this thing, 4 months in? Because I don't believe an audio sample can vanish off the Earth like this. Early assumptions of its origin have pointed towards Masterbits' Rapsody sample library, which I have looked into to no avail (however found other goodies like Let It Go's "lyrical paragraph" rap, Ska Cha Cha's "start the machine", Get Edgy's "won't get beat" and many others)-- and others, arguably, the majority point towards an old audio tape/radio reading of the 1958 mystery novel No House Limit

 

However after looking into No House Limit... no radio reading or audiotape seems to exist, and gambling lingo is very similar throughout media-- I think it was a simple slip-up by making too much of an assumption.

 

I've tweeted to Mark & Brian, currently awaiting a reply and meanwhile that, I thought... might as well open up about my search here. If anyone wants to help, go right ahead.

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https://app.box.com/s/q7hpmvqwlnl5da3a8nwj

"Today's a new day!"

 

https://app.box.com/s/qlp1a0jrdvken1biamab

"Today's a new start!"

 

https://app.box.com/s/mcmdw26fy894fy94yg4w

"Today's the day, I'm gonna change my way!"

 

It's official, A New Day was sung by a man. Rob Marshall, according to the sample pack's credits.

 

Samples are from the Vocal XTC library.

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Honestly, it's a matter of finding out what manufacturers Naganuma leans towards most with his sample packs. This one, for example, is by Zero-G, who have released a lot of other sample packs, one including "let's look at the funk", "this is most disturbing", "you make me feel so good", etc. It's challenging as well to work out which packs contain which samples, which is really what keeps me going through all this.

 

Also downloaded Timequake earlier today and have its full excerpt of the dealer sample. It uses the exact same one as Mark & Brian, the spacing, the lines, everything, just less laughter and more annoying grandfather clocks.

 

https://app.box.com/s/kbfsnqk6yf3r4vu77gf8

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Ya better watch that, SSMB.

 

Watch what, you ask?

 

https://app.box.com/s/mj2wqc9599a6fnwwjycc

 

THE FUNKY RHYTHM COMIN' ATCHA!

 

https://app.box.com/s/y8kbrvr6c0scdjg2lp1d

 

Above is me attempting to recreate its main limelight in Jet Set Radio's That's Enough and I can confirm it's the same sample.

 

Sample comes from the Zero-G Dance Vocals library, under the name "The funky rhythm... 2" in the tracklist PDF.

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Ya better watch that, SSMB.

 

Watch what, you ask?

 

https://app.box.com/s/mj2wqc9599a6fnwwjycc

 

THE FUNKY RHYTHM COMIN' ATCHA!

 

https://app.box.com/s/y8kbrvr6c0scdjg2lp1d

 

Above is me attempting to recreate its main limelight in Jet Set Radio's That's Enough and I can confirm it's the same sample.

 

Sample comes from the Zero-G Dance Vocals library, under the name "The funky rhythm... 2" in the tracklist PDF.

You are a sample god, Spindash. I'm surprised at how well you're able to find the origins of all these awesome songs by Hideki Naganuma. Let it be known once again that a song we thought was song by a woman, was in fact a man. Thanks for doing this, it really shows how brilliant Mr. Naganuma is as a composer/sampler.

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Ya better watch that, SSMB.

 

Watch what, you ask?

 

https://app.box.com/s/mj2wqc9599a6fnwwjycc

 

THE FUNKY RHYTHM COMIN' ATCHA!

 

https://app.box.com/s/y8kbrvr6c0scdjg2lp1d

 

Above is me attempting to recreate its main limelight in Jet Set Radio's That's Enough and I can confirm it's the same sample.

 

Sample comes from the Zero-G Dance Vocals library, under the name "The funky rhythm... 2" in the tracklist PDF.

 

WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT A CYPRESS HILL SAMPLE?! ;_;

 

I think the "funky rhythm" sample appears unaltered-ish in the S&AST remix of That's Enough.

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The astronauts are reportin', it feels good!

 

https://app.box.com/s/ox7fw9e9usov9hd07vrl

 

THIRTY-ONE SECONDS N' WE'RE GONE FOR AUTOSEQUENCE START!

 

(Hope you took birth control~!)

 

Famous for its constant use throughout Ollie King's Boarder 70 track. Also appears in the Somethin' Jazzy For Your Mind remix.

 

~

 

https://app.box.com/s/5yaff5uqhu5l3ibtk0le

 

Here we go now, on the offense!

 

Probably one of Naganuma's most modified and underlooked samples, this one is used in Jet Set Radio Future's Shape Da Future. Unbelievably enough, it comes from the same voice as the thirty-one seconds countdown.

 

~

 

https://app.box.com/s/qeyshc8y430rwv59q0ye

 

Look... to the future!

 

Also notable for its use in Jet Set Radio Future's Shape Da Future, this one in particular is the song's chorus of sorts... not much to say, really.

 

~

 

https://app.box.com/s/t9p0wuuwv8e2m5mxtjgi

 

And you're ready to float!

 

Used a few select times in Jet Set Radio Future's Fly Like A Butterfly. Honestly, this was one of the samples I'd never expect to find ever, so this was a very nice surprise.

 

~

 

https://app.box.com/s/y7mtdv0bdzlc2rz5oe83

 

Free boy, free girl... especially free love!

 

Famous for its use in JSRF's The Concept of Love, this sample is actually quite heavily chopped up. Also combined with a "What is love" sample from Zero-G Datafiles.

 

~

 

https://app.box.com/s/4mxolhk4r8jxt6ybmfcy

 

Layin' the wax n' spittin' the sounds, for you...

 

This one actually isn't Naganuma, but it's still very notable in the Sonic series for its use in SA1's Chao Race Entrance theme. I actually also have the "HIP-HOP, HOUSE, TECHNO" samples from this song too, but they're in a different pack and I can't remember which one for the life of me... gonna have to go digging for them later.

 

 

All samples listed in this post are from the Polestar Magnetics XL1 library.

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Heeeeeeeey, Spinny finds something he was starting to believe was made in-house!

 

Are you riding on, SSMB?

 

https://app.box.com/s/cdjbtaxxiu22s1w63yh9

 

"RIGHT THERE!"

 

Famous for its use in Sonic Rush's Right There, Ride On, I was really starting to question the lack of samples from this song in every pack I've ran into until here! Is heard in the Sound Ideas Network Sound Effects library audio demo at just over 1 minute in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ltckryVLrTg#t=71

 

It appears Naganuma turned the sample up in pitch by 4 octaves. It's also pretty likely "RIDE ON" is in this pack too considering that sample seems to be of a crowd. If that's the case I'll update this post and announce the edit in a status update or something.

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So I was googling around for Funky Dealer's vocals' origins, like usual these days. Little did I expect... I come across not one, but two uses.

 

http://origin.radioaustralia.net.au/international/radio/onairhighlights/thai-casino-plan-provoke

 

This use is a 2008 Australian radio skit about casinos in Thailand. "Place yer bets, ladies n' gentlemen" can be heard at the intro to the clip, whilst "get yer bets down, ladies n' gentlemen" can be heard at the end.

 

Due to the funky synths, I assumed that this was actually a song that Radio Australia sampled. Shazaming the clip, I didn't find this exact song, however, I did get pointed to...

 

https://app.box.com/s/2tq2gyg429afokb5vd0f

 

Alex Maragos' Play Six ~Original Mix~.

 

The track appears to use the entire sample apart from "Pay the front line, take the don'ts". Hell, even "got a hot hand" and "six, the point" are here.

 

Each day, I can't help but feel like I'm closing up on that sample more and more.

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Aight, so you know that drum fill that plays at the start of Ska Cha Cha?

 

 

I think I found its source:

 

 

I am fairly certain that this is where that drum fill comes from. I know that Boney M can't be using a sample pack because 1) the bongos continue throughout the song, and 2) it was released too early; I don't think sample packs were being made yet.

 

Anyway, decide for yourself.

 

EDIT: It's even clearer in the CD version.

 

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https://app.box.com/s/27ry1pf0o61rki3jgcih

 

So I suppose I should update with this!

 

As of now, I have located near to every single vocal sample used in Sonic Rush. The only exceptions now being:

 

- "RIDE ON" from Right There, Ride On

 

- The "HEE" from Metal Scratchin', also used in Naganuma's remix of I Love Love You for JSRF

 

- The "wapped in bwak" whispers from Wrapped in Black

 

- A few "oooooh"s from Raisin' Me Up. I may actually already have them, but I haven't looked into it yet.

 

But for now, let's explain what I do have in this bunch of goodies.

 

A NEW DAY

 

"Today's a new day!"

 

This sample is from Zero-G's Vocal XTC sample pack. File name is "Today's A New 1-D".

 

"Today's a new start!"

 

This sample is also from Zero-G's Vocal XTC sample pack. File name is "Today's A New 3-D".

 

"Today's the day I'm gonna change my way!"

 

This sample is also from Zero-G's Vocal XTC sample pack. File name is "Today's The Day-G".

 

RIGHT THERE, RIDE ON

 

"Right there!"

 

This sample is from an audio demo for the 1983 version of Sound Ideas' Network Sound Effects sample pack.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltckryVLrTg#t=70

 

BACK 2 BACK

 

"N' spinnin' on the turntables back to back!"

 

This sample is from Norman Cook's All-Star Breakbeats library. File name is "Spinning on the turntables back to back".

 

"HEY!"

 

This sample is from Best Service's Voice Spectral library, the 15th sample heard on Track 93. Also notable for being used in Jet Set Radio's Sweet Soul Brother and Sonic Rush Adventure's Machine Labyrinth.

 

ETHNO CIRCUS

 

"Dun de dun dun de dun dun dun dun!"

 

This sample is from Norman Cook's Skip to my Loops library. File name is "333_COOK".

 

"UGH!"

 

This sample is also from Norman Cook's Skip to my Loops. File name is "369_COOK".

 

"Trish the track attacker, we grab a mic, I smack a spectator, kidnapper!"

 

YES, IT DOESN'T SAY "TACO MEAT". *cough* This sample is from Masterbits' RAPsody library. Sample name is "Female Rap 2". Also notable for being used in the Dance Dance Revolution song Try 2 Luv U.

 

SKA CHA CHA

 

"Call me mister DJ!"

 

This sample is from Norman Cook's Skip to my Loops library. File name is "193_COOK".

 

"A-millie-billie-billie-bum!"

 

This sample is also from Skip to my Loops. File name is "313_COOK".

 

"GO!"

 

This sample is also from Skip to my Loops. File name is "315_COOK".

 

"Cha cha cha! Chacha cha cha cha! Cha cha cha! Chacha cha cha cha!"

 

This sample is also from Skip to my Loops. File name is "332_COOK".

 

"Start the machine!"

 

YES, IT DOESN'T SAY "WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT". *cough* This sample is from Masterbits' RAPsody. 22nd sample to play in the "Countdown and Space" file.

 

JEH JEH ROCKET

 

"Jenjela runjenyeaaaah!"

 

This sample is from Zero-G's Ethnic vol. 1 sample pack. First sample to play in the 28th track in the pack.

 

GET EDGY

 

"UNH!"

 

This sample is from Masterbits' Add Lips library. Sample name is "T37_01".

 

"Won't get beat!"

 

YES, IT DOESN'T SAY "WON'T GET ME", "AW YET ME" (wait only i used to think that*cough* This sample is from Masterbits' RAPsody library. 6th sample to play in the "Shouts!" track.

 

"C'MON!"

 

This sample is from Skip to my Loops. File name is "323_COOK". Also notable for being used in Sonic 3's Miniboss theme and Jet Set Radio Future's Funky Dealer.

 

WHAT U NEED

 

"Ya don't stop, ya proceed, 'cause this is what ya need!"

 

This sample is from Skip to my Loops. File name is "351_COOK". 

 

"Feelin' hot hot hot!"

 

This sample is from Skip to my Loops. File name is "423_COOK".

 

METAL SCRATCHIN'

 

"Go ahead, scratch me!"

 

This sample is from Zero-G's Datafiles vol. 2 library. First sample to play in the 96th track.

 

"HA! HA! HA! HA!"

 

This sample is from Datafiles vol. 2 also. Second sample to play in the 26th track. Also notable for being used in Jet Set Radio's That's Enough.

 

VELA NOVA

 

"scatting"

 

This sample is from Skip to my Loops. File name is "331_COOK". This sample may be very difficult to make out in Vela Nova, but it is most certainly there in the background. Can be heard most clearly through splitting the channels to mono and inverting the right one.

 

"Step by step..."

 

This sample is from Skip to my Loops. File name is "368_COOK".

 

"OOOOOOOH!"

 

This sample is from Skip to my Loops. File name is "397_COOK".

 

BOMBER BARBARA

 

"Gotta eat some man pubes, if he lay surrounded, but you're feelin' haunted 'cause those curves get on your nerves!"

 

...Sadly, I think I actually got that transcript correct. No joke. Anyway, this sample is from Masterbits' RAPsody. 7th, 8th and 9th samples to play in the "Shouts!" track.

 

WRAPPED IN BLACK

 

"Too black... too strong..."

 

This sample is from Polestar Magnetics' X-static Goldmine, sampled by them from either Malcolm X's original speech or Bring The Noise. On the X-static Goldmine, this is the 9th sample to play in the second disc's first track.

 

"OBSTRUUUUUUUUUCT!"

 

This sample is from Masterbits' RAPsody. 23rd sample to play on the "Countdown & Space" track. Also notable for being used in Jet Set Radio's Grace & Glory.

 

RAISIN' ME UP

 

"random gibberish"

 

This sample is from Skip to my Loops. File name is "219_COOK". This sample was reversed for its use in Raisin' Me Up.

 

"Raise me up... you took me higher!"

 

This sample is from Vocal XTC. File name is "Raise Me Up You 2-C".

 

"Raise..."

 

This sample is from Vocal XTC. File name is "Raise-C".

 

"When I was down... ya picked me up!"

 

This sample is from Vocal XTC. File name is "When I Was Down-C".

 

"When I was low... ya raised me up!"

 

This sample is from Vocal XTC. File name is "When I Was Low-C".

 

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...Welp, that's it!

 

*crowd booing*

 

...OH SHIT! I forgot this little unique baby here!

 

https://app.box.com/s/8hj3vqv13pn6j9aog5ij

 

"I think we got a hit record!"

 

This sample is used in the New Record jingle and is taken from Skip to my Loops. File name is "328_COOK".

 

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Welp... that's legitimately every vocal from Rush I know of.

 

*applause*

 

...That's very nice, thank you.

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