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It is a pretty valid concern. Whereas the design changes on the other three are fairly minor from what we can tell, Knuckles is... well. That's self-explanatory.

 

I always liked the idea he's evolved beyond being gullible the same way he's evolved beyond guarding the Master Emerald. So I really hope they don't go with the "dumb Knuckles" angle.

 

I think the dumb knuckles angle as it is put is one of the biggest concerns about his character in general throughout the entire series and in all mediums at the moment. You have the games where he is being treated rather poorly due to acting like he is just a dumb in the way character. In the comics, we don't know what they are going to do with him yet in the new world, but in the crossover, they were beginning to treat him the same once again. Then you have this mysterious black figure of what Knuckles may look like in this cartoon and it looks like they are definitely going to make him into a dumb strong man character. This is not who Knuckles was originally supposed to be and it is an honest complaint people are going to have if you are going to turn the strong willed but gullible echidna into stupid muscle now instead.

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Knuckles being gullible is fine to me. I like that trait, to be honest. There was something about him trusting everyone that made him likeable.

 

However, I don't like how they made him the dumb hothead. I mean him arguing with Sonic is fine, but other than that I'd rather have a him a bit more relaxed. Sonic is supposed to be the short tempered one if you ask me. Not to say he shouldn't get angry ever, but he shouldn't just be the angry guy..

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Well, I for one wouldn't mind giant balls of trash constantly falling on Silver.

Even though you wouldn't mind, I sure as hell would. In Generations, the ball of wreckage only lasted as long as Silver could hold it together, something that required all of his focus. Getting hit by Sonic made him lose focus, causing the wreckage to collapse around him. Unless you want Silver to assemble a ball of debris in every episode, it would lose all context. Furthermore, while the idea of something bad happening to Silver may be funny to some (for reasons I will never understand), it also serves to annoy people like me who are fans of the character. Or do we just not matter?

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Even though you wouldn't mind, I sure as hell would. In Generations, the ball of wreckage only lasted as long as Silver could hold it together, something that required all of his focus. Getting hit by Sonic made him lose focus, causing the wreckage to collapse around him. Unless you want Silver to assemble a ball of debris in every episode, it would lose all context. Furthermore, while the idea of something bad happening to Silver may be funny to some (for reasons I will never understand), it also serves to annoy people like me who are fans of the character. Or do we just not matter?

No.

 

Relax. It was a joke. No need to get so defensive. SEGA won't make stuff constantly fall on Silver.

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With regards to Knuckles being gullible but not dumb... I'd argue repetitive gullibility is a sign of dumbness. Sure, you trust a person once or twice, that's understandable. But if you don't at least learn to distrust that person, if not inherently being less trustful of folk afterward... then I think that is a sign your intelligence might be lacking, for you're clearly incapable of learning.

 

So Knuckles ditching his gullible trait makes sense... he can only be tricked so many times before he starts coming off as a bit lacking in the brains department.

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Even though they should. I'd forgive all else if they just made Silver the butt-monkey of the franchise.

And why the fuck would they do that? Silver has done nothing to deserve buttmonkey status, and making him into one would do nothing but piss off his fans!

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Personally I don't think there's anything interesting or endearing about Silver...

THEN MAKE SOMETHING INTERESTING OR ENDEARING!

 

Honestly, everyone is flipping the fuck out over the possible stripping down of Knuckles, but that one guy? "Yeah who cares, he's not worth it!" Double standard much?

 

EDIT: And you've just proven my point.

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Well they've got plenty of not-Silver characters to work with. They can just focus on them instead of bothering with Mr. Starfish Head.

But what about those of us who like Silver? What you're suggesting is hardly fair to us, you know!

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Well they've got plenty of not-Silver characters to work with. They can just focus on them instead of bothering with Mr. Starfish Head.

 

Oh great, you sound like a mini-version of those critics and Sonic fans who hate everyone except Sonic, Tails and Eggman. "Focus only on these characters, cuz fuck the rest! They aren't worth it!"

 

You really need to listen to yourself.

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But what about those of us who like Silver? What you're suggesting is hardly fair to us, you know!

I don't have any obligation to step up to the plate in defense of every character just because they have fans.

Simple fact is, this show isn't going to be everyone's ideal show. Given the size of the series' existing cast, we can't expect them to give every character top billing, or even an appearance. So considering I have no interest in Silver, my personal preference is, fuck 'im.

Oh great, you sound like a mini-version of those critics and Sonic fans who hate everyone except Sonic, Tails and Eggman. "Focus only on these characters, cuz fuck the rest! They aren't worth it!"

 

You really need to listen to yourself.

Again: No obligation to defend every character ever. There are plenty of characters that I think could be interesting. Silver is not one of them.

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I don't have any obligation to step up to the plate in defense of every character just because they have fans.

Simple fact is, this show isn't going to be everyone's ideal show. Given the size of the series' existing cast, we can't expect them to give every character top billing, or even an appearance. So considering I have no interest in Silver, my personal preference is, fuck 'im.

Again: No obligation to defend every character ever. There are plenty of characters that I think could be interesting. Silver is not one of them.

 

Okay, I'll phrase it this way: Dislike Silver all you want, but if Silver ever gets any opportunity (and uses it) to shine as a character, don't outright dismiss him just BECAUSE you dislike the character. I don't expect Silver to get any billing any time soon, but frankly even with his less than reputable history, he at least shouldn't be shunned before he is allowed to start.

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Okay, I'll phrase it this way: Dislike Silver all you want, but if Silver ever gets any opportunity (and uses it) to shine as a character, don't outright dismiss him just BECAUSE you dislike the character. I don't expect Silver to get any billing any time soon, but frankly even with his less than reputable history, he at least shouldn't be shunned before he is allowed to start.

'06 was his start. And while he hasn't had any huge roles since then, he didn't immediately get shelved, either. I think he's had plenty of chances.

If he does end up getting another significant role, and if he is interesting and likable in it, then I won't deny it. But I think it's slim fucking chances considering his abysmal performance up until now and I don't have any interest in fighting to give him another shot.

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'06 was his start. And while he hasn't had any huge roles since then, he didn't immediately get shelved, either. I think he's had plenty of chances.

If he does end up getting another significant role, and if he is interesting and likable in it, then I won't deny it. But I think it's slim fucking chances considering his abysmal performance up until now and I don't have any interest in fighting to give him another shot.

Wasn't saying you need to fight for his behalf, just not to get in his way like those "critics and fans" when he finally does get the chance...

 

...Why does this sound like we're talking about real people?

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