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Considering that this is a completely new canon, I'm not very concered about who they'll use. Just make sure that the cast isn't too big and all of the mains get a good amount of focus and I'm good.

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I don't have any obligation to step up to the plate in defense of every character just because they have fans.

Simple fact is, this show isn't going to be everyone's ideal show. Given the size of the series' existing cast, we can't expect them to give every character top billing, or even an appearance. So considering I have no interest in Silver, my personal preference is, fuck 'im.

You don't have to defend Silver, but you could at least have the decency to let other people do so.

 

All 3 of them.

Okay, was that necessary? I didn't think so either.

 

'06 was his start. And while he hasn't had any huge roles since then, he didn't immediately get shelved, either. I think he's had plenty of chances.

Plenty of chances that didn't allow him to develop as a character.

 

If he does end up getting another significant role, and if he is interesting and likable in it, then I won't deny it.

Why do I seriously doubt this?

 

But I think it's slim fucking chances considering his abysmal performance up until now and I don't have any interest in fighting to give him another shot.

His "abysmal performance" was caused by bad writing and was no fault of his own. And while you may not be interested in giving him another shot, I think it's the only way he'll ever shake off all the undeserved hate he receives.

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Okay, I'll phrase it this way: Dislike Silver all you want, but if Silver ever gets any opportunity (and uses it) to shine as a character, don't outright dismiss him just BECAUSE you dislike the character. I don't expect Silver to get any billing any time soon, but frankly even with his less than reputable history, he at least shouldn't be shunned before he is allowed to start.

 

It's true that, hypothetically, Silver could win over fans in a future game or cartoon or something. But until then, people are going to judge him based on previous appearances, and some might not be willing to give him a chance at this point. I think there's a difference between that and people who dismiss the entire cast as being irredeemable.

 

Why is everyone so fucking content with mediocrity?

 

They probably don't consider it mediocrity.

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There are better developed characters that are much closer to being borderline-main characters than Silver can ever be. Even though I don't like his design or his personality or anything for that matter about him, the main offender here would be to try to make him a part of the regular cast, which would require the show to be focused a lot on time travel (which would be tiring and sort of annoying) or they change his role completely (which would be kind of dumb). 

 

To even imply that he'd be more worthy for the role of a regular than the Chaotix, Cream/Vanilla/Cheese, Blaze, Rouge, Shadow, etc is beyond me anyways.

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Oh good.  Another Silver debate.  Keep it civil, guys.  No name-calling or opinion-shaming or anything like that.  If I see anyone doing such a thing, you will receive a strike.  Just putting that up there now.

 

On that note, I still fail to see the logic behind the defense that Silver's poor debut was the result of bad writing, which is "not his own fault."  A character's personality and actions depend entirely on how the writer portrays him.  So, when is a character bad based on things that are entirely their fault?  Further, why is it okay to like characters for shallow reasons (even though I disagree that the reasons presented are shallow) but not dislike them for equally shallow reasons?

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To even imply that he'd be more worthy for the role of a regular than the Chaotix, Cream/Vanilla/Cheese, Blaze, Rouge, Shadow, etc is beyond me anyways.

Who was even suggesting this? Don't go shoving words in my mouth just to make a point that I never stated/implied.

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You don't have to defend Silver, but you could at least have the

His "abysmal performance" was caused by bad writing and was no fault of his own. And while you may not be interested in giving him another shot, I think it's the only way he'll ever shake off all the undeserved hate he receives.

Silver is not a real person. He is a fictional character that's defined by whatever writing we have to go off of. Considering what we have to go off of, it isn't unreasonable for people to not be fond of him. Saying that it "Isn't his fault" isn't an argument. Once a character makes a terrible first impression like Silver did, it's rare that we ever even see them again at all.

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Who was even suggesting this? Don't go shoving words in my mouth just to make a point that I never stated/implied.

 

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Hmm. Poops.

 

Must've read over the convo a bit wrong. Would still be dumb if they did that though. :v

 

Anyways carry on and stuff.

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Not to join on any sides, but personally I enjoy Silver. Granted, I've only seen, not played Sonic 06 or any games that feature Silver... but I do find him intriguing. Something that can easily be developed too, as most of him seems rather shrouded in questions.

 

However, I do have to agree with the idea that someone more 'favored' and recognized by the fans should go first. Personally, I'd like to see Cream. 

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You don't have to defend Silver, but you could at least have the decency to let other people do so.

I'm not preventing anyone from doing anything. I'm just disagreeing with them.

Plenty of chances that didn't allow him to develop as a character.

Sounds like a lost cause to me, or at least more trouble than he's worth.

Why do I seriously doubt this?

Because you're more interested in seeing me as a boogeyman than a person.

His "abysmal performance" was caused by bad writing and was no fault of his own.

You say this like there's a meaningful distinction between the character and the writing for him.

 

Every character has potential to be great characters. It's not fair to just say that a character shouldn't be used just because you can't see the potential when there are a lot of fans of that character who can see the potential that can be put to use.

Like I said before, inevitably, some characters won't be used, or will be used less than others, no matter what anyone argues. Cuts have to be made, the only question is which characters get cut.

Also it's kind of baffling to say that it's "not fair" for someone to not like a character.

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And why the fuck would they do that? Silver has done nothing to deserve buttmonkey status, and making him into one would do nothing but piss off his fans!

I think everyone here needs to take a step back and consider whether or not certain comments are made seriously or in jest.

I don't much care for Silver, but I don't want him to be a buttmonkey.

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But unlike any of those one-off characters, I feel that it's blatant that it's very possible to take him and improve upon his character, development, backstory and even how he would play as.

I don't think that's any more true for him than it is for those one-shots.

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Nobody is suggesting total abandonment. There are just characters that some would rather get focused on over trying to restructure Silver so he could work. It's not hard to understand, really. 

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I don't think that's any more true for him than it is for those one-shots.

 

That may be the case, but the fact is that those one-shots haven't appeared in any further games or have that sizeable of a fanbase (Mephiles is this bizarre exception; some people love this guy and want him to return despite the fact that he was wiped from existence).

 

Thing is, to me, Silver happens to have more potential than most of the fans and critics are giving him credit for.

 

 

I'd be okay with it actually.

 

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To even imply that he'd be more worthy for the role of a regular than the Chaotix, Cream/Vanilla/Cheese, Blaze, Rouge, Shadow, etc is beyond me anyways.

I wouldn't call him more worthy, because IMO he's pretty much equal to the characters you mentioned.

 

Oh good.  Another Silver debate.  Keep it civil, guys. 

I'll do my best!

 

Further, why is it okay to like characters for shallow reasons (even though I disagree that the reasons presented are shallow) but not dislike them for equally shallow reasons?

Negative opinions always require more justification than positive opinions. At least, that's my opinion.

 

You say this like there's a meaningful distinction between the character and the writing for him.

For me there is. Even though I know Silver is a fictional character, he feels like more than an just in-game model and a few lines in a script. It's really hard for me to explain, but I hope I don't sound delusional to anyone.

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Negative opinions always require more justification than positive opinions. At least, that's my opinion.

But why?  One person's positive will always be another person's negative and vice versa, so treating one side of the spectrum like it's inherently better or worse certainly doesn't sound fair to me.

 

 

When is this coming out? I really want to see it thunder_dance_2_by_thunderbolt_the_fox-d

"This fall" is the only information we have at this time.

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It about time we had a new sonic cartoon, I hope this will be a great one thunder__s_tail_attack_2_by_thunderbolt_

I know its unrelated but man do I love that sprite recolor that you have there (reminds me of my cousins actually).

 

But to get back on topic, I hope that we can see the designs on all the characters soon so that we have something to go off of in terms of how the designs for all the other characters will look.

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But to get back on topic, I hope that we can see the designs on all the characters soon so that we have something to go off of in terms of how the designs for all the other characters will look.

Yeah, I'm patiently awaiting the new designs to be revealed. With what I'm getting from the silhouettes, I expect designs along the lines of these.

 

Sonic- He still looks like the same blue hedgehog we know and love, but his fur is a bit more scruffy this time around,and/or is wearing some sort of vest/jacket.

 

Tails- Exact same as game counterpart, but maybe wears a tool belt(he looks like he's wearing something on the lower part of his outline).

 

Amy- Very similar to the Sonic Riders outfit, except she's wearing a skirt instead of pants.

 

Knuckles- Bleh, the silhouette tells me all I need to know. Way too muscular, isn't wearing spiked gloves, and much taller than the rest of the group.

 

These designs may or may not turn out good, but hopefully the characters will at least look nice in the CG animation the show is going for.

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