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[Balding Spider]

So here's the Nightmare DLC:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1R4eTOD8w

 

It's, lazier then what I was expecting.

 

So it disappears after you beat it? I- I don't even know...

Edited October 17, 2013 by Balding Spider

[Barry the Nomad]

Wow, the streaming dude rage-quitted and plopped in Generations 3DS while claiming SLW 3DS is worse than Sonic 06....

 

Yeah, I'm sorry, but I really got the feeling that he was just really bad at the game. I mean, the snowball switch puzzle confused him. Took him forever to get: put snowball on switch, capsules open. 

 

The bit where he rage quit... I SAW HOW TO GET THROUGH IT.

 

I'm going to wait until I play before I judge too much... but I think it's easy to see when somebody is bad at a game, and in turn they claim the game is bad rather than blaming themself.

[Vertekins]

I haven't really seen many of the cutscenes, rather snippets due to lagginess last night. Just re-watching them.

 

And lordy! Cubot and Orbot are STILL freakin' amazing. I really do love it how Sonic is showing a lot more dimension than he did in Colours and Gens. Going to keep watching to get the lowdown on Sonic-Eggman-Tails interactions.

[Dejimon11]

So here's the Nightmare DLC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1R4eTOD8w It's, lazier then what I was expecting. So it disappears after you beat it? I- I don't even know...

Not what I was expecting but it looks fun makes you wonder if they will ever make another NiGHTS game in the near future. As for it disappearing after you beat it sounds lame especially since they encourage us to get that version

[azoo]

Any Youtube links that have all the cutscenes, or do we have to just settle for the Twitch.tv stream?

[Vertekins]

Sonic: "If it pleases the court, all those who feel that Eggman is a bonehead raise their hands" *Raises his hand*

Tails; *Raises his hand*

Orbot: *Raises his hand behind Eggman's back immediately*

Tails: "Well there you go folks, the verdict has been reached unanimously!"

Eggman: "I didn't raise my hand"

 

 

OK, that is probably the downright funniest thing I have ever seen in a Sonic game. I actually laughed out loud at that one. Kudos writers!

[Ristar]

Wow, the streaming dude rage-quitted and plopped in Generations 3DS while claiming SLW 3DS is worse than Sonic 06....

That part of the level where he was stuck wasn´t even that hard, there was a moving platform right below him which could have done things more easier.

Edited October 17, 2013 by Ristar

[Chooch]

There is another live stream going on close to the beginning of the game if anyone cares. It's in high quality but if you have weaker internet it might be laggy because there are no quality adjustment settings.

 

http://www.twitch.tv/infernoblast32

Edited October 17, 2013 by Chooch

[Kuzu]

I just realized, this game confirms that Tails is effectively six limbed. Go figure...

[TheOcelot]

Started playing SLW. Just kicked Zazz's butt in Act2 of Windy Hill. I love how he tornts Sonic before the fight. The controls are quite easy to pick up. I'm really liking what I've played so far.

[Chooch]

Parkour would be nice to see in a more organic and less purposefully blocky environment.

[Narukami07]

Ok. That was pretty funny with how Sonic dissed Eggman like that lol.

[Vertekins]

It's....interesting how insecure Tails seems to be regarding his perceived usefulness to Sonic, becoming rather grumpy because he believes Sonic trusts Eggman more than him. Am I missing something or did that come out of nowhere?

[Nepenthe]

I want to go back a number of pages and address a spat that occurred yet again between ArtFenix and members, because it's hovering in the report system and frankly I'm sick and tired of the months upon months of this that staff have had to look into. Even worse that I now have to tread into the spoiler topic of all places to deal with it. That's the kicker.

 

ArtFenix: Staff have talked to you plenty of times about your behavior concerning your participation in the Lost World topic. It's not even wholly your opinion; it's the attitudinal, inflammatory, and disingenuous in which way you express it, and frankly there's no possible way you can't know this isn't the case considering how many times it's been explained to you. I don't care if you hate the game; knock off the baiting.

Everyone Else: The shit wouldn't even have to happen in the first place if you weren't so easily baited and personally offended at every single negative opinion that has graced this game. You have plenty of options to ignore him. Do so instead of jumping into the shitstorm, lobbing insults at him, and then coming to staff complaining that he's ruining all of your fun. It takes two to fucking tango.

 

If you guys cannot get along and discuss a video game like adults, I'm going to treat you like children and give you guys a time out, and by time out I mean suspensions on sight of another bullshit derail. Not strikes anymore; suspensions. Maybe the time off will do you some good.

[DarkLight]

It's....interesting how insecure Tails seems to be regarding his perceived usefulness to Sonic, becoming rather grumpy because he believes Sonic trusts Eggman more than him. Am I missing something or did that come out of nowhere?

 

Yeah it's funny how sometime ago people half-joked about there being some tension between Sonic and Tails regarding Sonic's decisions getting the both of them in this trouble in the first place, but trusting Eggman is indeed interesting as well. Though I have yet to see the cutscenes, I can only imagine them working it out by the end.

Edited October 17, 2013 by DarkLight

[Diogenes]

It's....interesting how insecure Tails seems to be regarding his perceived usefulness to Sonic, becoming rather grumpy because he believes Sonic trusts Eggman more than him. Am I missing something or did that come out of nowhere?

It came out of the idea that characters should actually have character.

[Vertekins]

It came out of the idea that characters should actually have character.

 

I'm more of the mind that characters should have believable reasons for the way they act. All I asked was whether or not this behavior has precedence in a previous cutscene.

[Kuzu]

It's....interesting how insecure Tails seems to be regarding his perceived usefulness to Sonic, becoming rather grumpy because he believes Sonic trusts Eggman more than him. Am I missing something or did that come out of nowhere?

 

I feel its because Sonic is willing to trust their Arch Enemy over his best friend, in which case Tails isn't entirely unjustified. Tails has always been secure knowing that Sonic can always rely on him so when that isn't the case, obviously Tails isn't going to be happy with it. That's my interpretation anyway.

[Diogenes]

I'm more of the mind that characters should have believable reasons for the way they act.

Tails looks up to Sonic. He wants to be useful to him. He's Sonic's genius sidekick. Now this sleazy other genius is elbowing in on his territory, and Sonic is allowing it.

That's a pretty believable reason in my book.

[Vertekins]

Agreed. Looking at it that way, it does feel pretty believable.

 

I have to say, I am pretty impressed from what I've watched so far. Eggman is actually pretty threatening when he's pissed off. Gotta love how his greater than average strength is displayed when he pounds on that ice screen and destroys it

[Dr. Mechano]

Some people say the ending comes out of nowhere, but I actually think it's pretty clever, when you think about it.

 

Why did Eggman save Sonic's life? Because he still needed Sonic to defeat the Zeti. They can override his machines, after all, so he needed them out of his way before he could take his mech and go conquer the now-ruined world. Faking his death and allowing Sonic to proceed - knowing he'd defeat Zavok - was actually pretty clever on his part. With the Zeti out of the way, he only had Sonic to deal with.

 

Some people might compare it to the Time Eater in terms of "Oh, Eggman's suddenly the boss out of nowhere," but this one was much better-explained and actually demonstrates Eggman's cunning in a really neat way. (It's too bad that - from a gameplay stance - the boss was way on the easy side, but eh).

 

Really, considering Eggman's entire plan was ruined after losing his conch, and that he subsequently lost the Zeti, his Eggmobile, and all his Badniks, he improvised an impressive backup scheme on the fly, and managed to take the final boss position in a believable way.

 

Needless to say, I'm pleased.

Edited October 17, 2013 by Count Mechano

[Vertekins]

Ah! So it's Sonic who comes out with the genocide line.

 

Bet no one guessed that one!

 

And wow, it is pretty interesting how Eggman saved Tails from Cubot. I once again LOL'd at the poor Fox getting body-slammed by nearly 300lbs of mad scientist He was faster than Sonic!

[Kuzu]

Some people say the ending comes out of nowhere, but I actually think it's pretty clever, when you think about it.

 

Why did Eggman save Sonic's life? Because he still needed Sonic to defeat the Zeti. They can override his machines, after all, so he needed them out of his way before he could take his mech and go conquer the now-ruined world. Faking his death and allowing Sonic to proceed - knowing he'd defeat Zavok - was actually pretty clever on his part. With the Zeti out of the way, he only had Sonic to deal with.

 

Some people might compare it to the Time Eater in terms of "Oh, Eggman's suddenly the boss out of nowhere," but this one was much better-explained and actually demonstrates Eggman's cunning in a really neat way. (It's too bad that - from a gameplay stance - the boss was way on the easy side, but eh).

 

Really, considering Eggman's entire plan was ruined after losing his conch, and that he subsequently lost the Zeti, his Eggmobile, and all his Badniks, he improvised an impressive backup scheme on the fly, and managed to take the final boss position in a believable way.

 

Needless to say, I'm pleased.

 

I actually do agree with this. Its not so much Eggman being the final boss comes out of nowhere, its that when its revealed he doesn't really capitalize; I mean he shows up after everything is said and done and then just fights Sonic for the boss fight. It would have been far better if he at least was able to get his revenge on the Zeti.

 

IF anything, the rushed ending seriously hurts Eggman because he's never able to capitalize. 

[SchemingMinor]

I actually do agree with this. Its not so much Eggman being the final boss comes out of nowhere, its that when its revealed he doesn't really capitalize; I mean he shows up after everything is said and done and then just fights Sonic for the boss fight. It would have been far better if he at least was able to get his revenge on the Zeti.

 

IF anything, the rushed ending seriously hurts Eggman because he's never able to capitalize. 

I believe this was the only part out of the cutscenes that I did miss through the stream. I have no clue what happened to the Zeti except hearing from you guys that "Sonic killed them."

 

I'm going to have to re-evaluate them and watch them again to pick up on the finer details, however.

[Diogenes]

You fight them again and they poof into smoke when you beat them. That's about it.