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Should bad language and profanity be an issue?


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I made this because on most forums, they have language filters, so I was completely shocked when I saw bad words could be held loose with no holding back.

In fact, someone in a status' comments about 'Why would men be overprotective over their girlfriends?' said presumably to be a joke, "GET AWAY FROM MY WIFE YOU WHORE" See. Now THAT is very coarse.

Now, I am one of the people that likes to set things straight or make someplace a better place or whatever, that is one of the reasons why profanity bothers me.

If there is nothing to do about it, or if this topic is useless in any way, or for any other reason, you are welcome to lock this.

And you may move it if I posted this in the wrong place.

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I feel like we either need a language filter, or for people to substitute their swears more, like

You Motherfucker = U Muphucka, see you can barely tell the difference =P

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It's outdated by two years, but I think may be of some relevance here.

 

I would like to think a good chunk of us aren't too bothered by profanity, so I think the issue is what could be done for those who are like an optional filter or something.

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In fact, someone in a status' comments about 'Why would men be overprotective over their girlfriends?' said presumably to be a joke, "GET AWAY FROM MY WIFE YOU WHORE" See. Now THAT is very coarse.

Of course I was joking when I said that. Didn't mean to offend anyone. I don't know anyone on here who uses swear words offensively or extensively.

 

I'd rather there not be a filter on swear words, but if you don't want to see them, there are filters on browsers, like Yandere Amy has pointed out.  

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I think Tornado said it better than any of us can.  They're just words.  If you choose to give them a negative connotation, that's your problem, and if you feel something needs to be done about it, install one of the extensions listed above.

 

Trust me, restricting curse words would not make this a better place.  I can guarantee that nearly everyone would get pissed off by it, because the majority of us are adults, or at least old enough to choose to speak this way.  I don't go on the internet to get grounded for saying "fuck", I go there to say it more than I ever possibly could in polite company elsewhere.

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Yea, there's really nothing inherently wrong with cursing and if you think there is, well then that's your own problem. People curse, its a natural part of life. 

 

 

 

So yea, swearing is bitchin.

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I personally don't like curse words much, but I know people say them, whether humorous or not. and I know they will say them online. Honesty, Snipsnap, I can see where you are coming from and had posted a similar thing when I first started here as a status. But, here is what I do, I may hear them, read them, see them...But I don't have to use them. It is a challenge, but if you do not like cursing (I don't either :P) Just try to bleep it out in your head, read over it, (I mean, "skip" the curse word) and don't use them yourself.  Certain status updates that may refer to porn or other sexual jokes I just skip. If they wanna say it, fine. I don't have to read it. I just skip it, just like I would in a movie, or book.

   Hope that helps you out Snipsnap :D

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I grew up hearing curse words. I was never allowed to use them at home or anywhere else. I was spanked when I was little when a mean teacher would call my parents for it. I bleep out my curse words. You could try to bleep them out. :)

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No, I enjoy the freedom to use strong language, within reason.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq7Vj3GMd1M

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No, I enjoy the freedom to use strong language, within reason.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq7Vj3GMd1M
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Really, I think it should only be an issue if said swearing is antagonist in nature, or if its excessive - dropping the odd swear here and there is one thing, but if an entire post is almost nothing but f-bombs, then that person should probably be asked to tone it down. It should all come down to how they are used. :P

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I personally don't care what others say, I just put a filter on to words, whether they be cursing or not that bug me.

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I've long since given up on the whole swearing issue so now I've basically just started swearing in my posts as well when I feel like it. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Or something to that effect ahaha. I've never personally had a thing against swearing but I do somewhat feel uncomfortable doing it myself on a forum meant for kids primarily. In the end I've kinda gotten past that.

However, I believe swearing used in conjunction with the attitudes of some people around here is poisonous to the community and the last thing it needs is a lot of venom. Generally though the mods do a pretty bang up job on keeping an eye on that but I still see lots of it go on. Not only that but I do think there are definitely certain words that should be off limits for how offensive and insulting they are to other people. You can make the claim certain words have negative connotations associated to them by us and that we give them power, but there are certain words that are more than just an expression - they attack a certain gender, orientation, race, or something else that may have some historical connection to being awful. Granted I don't see a lot of people around here using words like that but to pass off all swearing as 'we just give words negative feelings' is the same kind of logic that people use when regarding extremely hurtful words as well. Just something to keep in mind, more or less an alternate perspective on it.

 

Like I said - I have very little issues with swearing itself these days, but I do think as a community we should at least try and be somewhat considerate of the youngsters and people who would rather not see it all the time. We all have to exist here on the same board together so we might as well try to at least be somewhat accommodating to one another. We've done it before with all the sexual language such as "I CAME IN MY PANTZ HAHALOL" being pretty much frowned upon/outlawed and really swears I think are just as vulgar to a lot of people haha. Before anyone tells me too "well then they can just accept our swearing" the amount of people who complain about swearing are vastly outnumbered by us who do swear, the least we can do is maybe just be a little more mindful of our language for them if it crosses our mind?

I guess my point is if we can help it maybe just think of other people too if we have a moment, not to stop swearing entirely :3. Just my two cents and I hope people don't take it the wrong way.

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I'm very grateful to have found a Sonic community that doesn't aggressively filter swear words. I can't tell you how many boards I've been to that are full of adults, yet treat the entire community likes its a kindergarten class. I was verbally warned for saying "hell" on one of them, despite the majority of registered users on that board being 17-20+ years old

I am not a compulsive swearer. But I don't like being censored unnecessarily simply because the board owner wants to keep things at a G rating for a very small minority of the member base. I do agree that children should have the right to remove profanities from their browsing experience, but such a thing should be optional and enabled by the members themselves on a case by case basis. A built in swear filter with a toggle in the UCP is one compromise I've always considered to be reasonable. 

@OP: The plugins mentioned thus far in the thread seem like they'd be a great solution to your problem.

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I never understood why swear words are commonly associated with negativity and stupidity, when they're also used passionately and to express a point with valid reason and maturity. Then again, I don't get why humans are afraid of words we put in our dictionary, so...

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I think swearing is perfectly acceptable, but slurs (particularly those with a strong history of bigotry attached to them) should generally be avoided in this community, outside of a discussion about the words themselves perhaps.

 

Regarding swearing itself, it's more about intent than anything. Good-natured swearing can be totally harmless and inoffensive, while conversely, you can still deeply hurt and truly insult someone using G-Rated language. I think a good rule of thumb is - whatever words you use, swearing or otherwise - don't be a jerk. 

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I never understood why swear words are commonly associated with negativity and stupidity, when they're also used passionately and to express a point with valid reason and maturity. Then again, I don't get why humans are afraid of words we put in our dictionary, so...

 

Maybe they are thought of negatively as I've heard before that if you are an active swear word user then you are going to hell and such like that. Dunno how true that is, but I've heard people say that before.

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I could support an optional filter for those who don't find it tasteful, but a forum-wide removal? Nah. One of the small details I like about SSMB, actually, is it doesn't censor your speech, unlike 99% of the other sites I've been on. It doesn't matter how you express your opinion, so long as it's written in proper English and is respectful and constructive.

I personally find overuse of swearing distasteful. Once in a while I will actually preface a swear in my posts here with "pardon my language," even though swearing is 100% fine. I generally use heavier swears to voice intense frustration; indeed, when I first used the f-word in my memory, it was in school and... I noticed it was very good at channeling anger. I usually reserve higher end swears for just that - moments of intense frustration. It makes them miles more powerful, I think, than if you use them excessively; in the latter case I begin to think a person sounds uneducated.

That being said, I wouldn't prohibit someone from making use of such. Hiding swearing, as Vertekins stated, has little use, as people inevitably will discover them. For younger people it may be an issue, but in that case parents should probably monitor their children's access more. Nothing makes me more irate than parents buying a T or M-rated game, for example, and then griping that there's all this controversial content in it; it's the parent's fault the child has exposure in the first place.

But I digress; I support a swear filter that's only active for those who feel sufficiently uncomfortable. That way both sides win. We wouldn't even need to have a SFW/NSFW switch like FurAffinity does; plugins make censorship of bad language as simple as a few clicks.

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Maybe they are thought of negatively as I've heard before that if you are an active swear word user then you are going to hell and such like that. Dunno how true that is, but I've heard people say that before.

Matthew 12:34-36:        34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35: A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36: But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment

 

It's not necessarily set in stone, but I suppose it could be implied. It's all about morality, really: People have certain deep-rooted beliefs that they're simply not willing to give up; The perception on swearing is likely one of them.

I believe that everyone should have a choice in what they want to subject themselves to in this case. That is, again, where the filters come in.

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I think profanity should be allowed, as long as it doesn't become like this...

God, I can't even imagine what the place would be like if swearing were like that...

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