Gay art student set to lose his virginity in public

[Nepenthe]

Also, I'm not sure I'd entertain the comparison between a couple having sex in public to a direct and targeted attack on a belief system.

[Mauro Fonseca]

I think that technically, this is art. However, art can still be distasteful. This is distasteful. There's a photo called Piss Christ; it is a photograph of a crucifix submerged in urine. This too is "art".

So, whether this performance is art or not is of little importance to me. I still find it repulsive.

That's something else entirely. There's good art, and bad art, and art in between, but the point is it's art.

[Big Panda]

Projections of natural beauty in a certain way can be considered art. Hence why art can apply to something as simple as a photo of a tree with sunlight beaming through, or a puddle on the ground. What could be more beautiful and natural than the expression of love?

...though its hard to pinpoint to what sort of degree. There's a very fine line between that and porn.

Edited October 30, 2013 by TheFatPanda

[JezMM]

As a point of comparison, good cuisine is an artform that appeals to both our emotional and intellectual sides, as well as our instinctual and physical pleasure sides.  Sexy art could be considered the same.

 

 

 

Honestly though I think it's very prudish to assume all depictions of nudity and sex are porn regardless of intent.

[WarioBone]

That's something else entirely. There's good art, and bad art, and art in between, but the point is it's art.

 

...that's literally what he said.  And that he didn't care either way.

[Frogging101]

That's something else entirely. There's good art, and bad art, and art in between, but the point is it's art.

Yes, and my point is that this is very bad art.

I realize that this is a subjective statement. Basically, I think that this performance requires virtually no talent; guts maybe, but no talent. It's a performance of a very base element of our physical nature. This "art" has no class.

Edited October 30, 2013 by Frogging101

[KHCast]

....actually, collecting Youtube comments and presenting them as a collected work could be really interesting.

 

Nepenthe said it better than I can, but it's the context that dictates whether it's art or not.

 

 

Are you trying to imply that this person is somehow lacking in morals because he's partaking in this?

 

And i'm sorry, but that "Sex is sacred" stuff is utter nonsense. Sex isn't a big deal at all, we have an odd attitude to sex as a society and like to build it up into something it's not. It's a natural act for the purposes of continuing the species, but it's also a lot of fun and, contrary to what you're saying, is totally fine to use "when you feel like it"

 

The human races hang ups about sex are totally unnatural and bizzare.

 

 

I meant have a different moral system. Not that they don't have morals at all sorry.

Look, I already said if you want to view sex as a "whatever who cares, no big deal" kind of thing, go ahead. But don't tell me I can't see it as something different. I believe it as something that should be saved for a spouse. I don't like the idea of having it before that. That's just my view.

[Dr. Mechano]

For me personally, I'm kind of in between Goofy and some of the other posters.

 

For me, as long as it's in a monogamous, committed relationship, then whether or not that relationship is marriage isn't as big a deal. Keep in mind that this is for me. For me. Once more, for emphasis - For me. This is not my judgment on how society as a whole should view sex.

 

I do think that saying it's objectively no big deal, and that people just shouldn't see it as some special, sacred thing is honestly just as restricting as the inverse argument though. If it isn't for you, great! That's fine! But it is for others, and as sex is a deeply personal thing, it is more than okay that they view it that way.

 

Whether you view it as just for marriage, just for committed partners, or even just for fun, understand that your views on sex - and the views of others - are individualistic, and not an objective standard to project onto others. Do what works for you, and find likeminded partners who value sex similarly to you, but don't be overly concerned with how others view sex unless they're actively trying to get in the way of other peoples' sex lives in some way.

Edited October 30, 2013 by Count Mechano

[Briraka]

The only thing I have to say here is that two lovers banging on stage in front of a consenting audience is less pretentious than some wrist-cutter drawing a few lines on a piece of paper with a No.2 pencil and showing it off to say it's somehow a testament to his internal struggles ans angst.

[SchemingMinor]

The only thing that came to my mind when I read about this:

 

Hey, what's the difference between art and pornography?

 

A scholarship.

[Mauro Fonseca]

...that's literally what he said.  And that he didn't care either way.

 

 

Yes, and my point is that this is very bad art.

I realize that this is a subjective statement. Basically, I think that this performance requires virtually no talent; guts maybe, but no talent. It's a performance of a very base element of our physical nature. This "art" has no class.

 

... I'm not disagreeing? I just wanted to reinforce and agree with your point.

[Briraka]

After I read some replies, I wonder if this is some kind of parody/satire on this reality show they're doing.

 

(Big Brother)

Just think about it. These two 19 year-olds are doing the exact same thing that this reality show does. If not a tad bit more accurate

 

What are we choosing to get mad at? The art project or the reality show? 

Me mum watches this shite and I don't remember da sex.

[JezMM]

The point of this art isn't and never was about public sex or voyeurism though, it's about virginity and the stigma around it.

[Willsy]

The thought of two people just having a good whack at it and after a large orgasmic groan the student asking the audience what they thought....yeah, I can't help but find that funny.

"OOOOOHHHhhhh....So, what do you think?"

Edited November 1, 2013 by Wil348

[Riff-making Love]

Me mum watches this shite and I don't remember da sex.

 

Big Brother has a 24/7 livestream you can watch that allows you to watch everyone in the house any time you want. And yes, they do have sex.

 

In this day in age, I don't really seem to phased at the idea of two people going at it for the sake of art because people go at it in public for seedier intentions all the time.

 

I've lived a block away from New York's central park for a few years and you'd be surprised at how often people are going at it on the lawn. Now that's much different, as it's probably a voyeurism kind of thing but the intention here is definitely not that. The highlighted concept of this is that the guy is losing his virginity in public, something most people would not do because at one point in time it was considered a sacred act.  

 

I can't process the reason for any uproar but that might just be because I'm generally an apathetic kind of guy. Nobody's getting hurt, nobody's being killed, everybody's consenting. It's all good in my book.