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Not likely with these potential frontrunners:

Jeremy Hunt - damaged the NHS, leading to worries of backdoor privatisation
Michael Gove - pissed off all the school teachers with his terrible approach to education
Boris Johnson - professional public buffoon, scheming backstabber in "private", lead Brexiter with that smegging lying bus.

Then you get the usual idiots like Truss, Raab and Leadsom being mentioned, and I'm not sure what to make of others like Javid and Stewart.

It certainly doesn't inspire confidence that things will get better anytime soon.

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Farage must be cackling in his throne room like Palpatine right now.  To be honest, I really don't think we'll be seeing another Tory PM without another election.  Labour will be frothing at the mouth for another one (despite Corbyn as leader).  If I had to guess though, I'd say Boris is the most likely, which would be weirdly fitting, seeing how much of a joke driven sitcom parliament is.

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7 hours ago, Kevin said:

Well shit! 😧 Please, UK, don't make him Prime Minister! 

Unfortunately, the U.K. doesn't get a say; only members of the Conservative party..

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-49807552

So the UK Supreme Court has ruled Boris Johnson's prorogation of parliament unlawful.

A friend of mine who supports Brexit has said that even in the event of a no deal, we won't be crashing out because of World Trade Organisation rules. I don't really know what that means. Can someone here with brains explain it and say if that's accurate?

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Here's a BBC Guide to the term.  Basically, World Trade Organisation rules are the baseline for how countries or blocs trade with each other if they don't have a specific trade deal with each other.  Falling back on WTO rules is exactly what people mean when they talk about "crashing out" without a deal.  The expectation is also - I don't believe anybody challenges this - that if we do crash out without a deal and fall back on WTO rules, any government's first course of action would be to then... negotiate a trade deal with the EU.  And also the U.S., China, anyone else with whom we don't currently have a trade deal because we trade with them as part of the EU.  In other words, the second we're out on a no-deal basis, we're right back to the negotiating table with the EU and in fact the rest of the world, and without a comfy transition period to cushion the impact of the changes.

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Anything that keeps the country from crashing out is a good thing, just as long as Boris doesn't win out in the end. But more time also means more time for the right-wing press to spread its lies and propaganda.

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Honestly, from everything I hear, it sounds like Corbyn is going to keep this from going in a good direction. I hear a persistent frustration is he's basically the obnoxious centrist who won't give a clear position on Brexit, and it makes him and Labour look really bad.

Of course, a lot can change during a campaign (May sure got a surprise when she held that election with good polling numbers only to lose seats), but the likely scenario is Conservatives come out ahead and this moves forward.

Now unless the Conservatives get a super clear majority yet their plans still fall apart due to infighting, (Lord knows stateside how hilariously bad the right wing Party's grand plans collapsed once they actually got back in power) I just hope that Scotland, Northern Ireland, etc. are all given a choice to break off and do their own thing. The Scottish people in particular voted against economic uncertainty, yet England gave them it anyway. So I say let them have another chance to make their own destiny.

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