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Edit: Rough sequence of events so far in the spoiler.

 

Rough sequence of events so far.

 

1: Popular youtuber claims videogame content will be banned in a SOPA esq youtube.

2: Youtuber claims Angry Joe and several other popular youtubers will have to change their show format.

3: Tweets from Angry Joe are found supporting the above.

4: 2nd vid is found from another popular youtube supporting the claims that youtube will be changing how it works.

5: 2nd vid claims that it's more to do with MCN partnerships.

 

MCN partnerships = Can upload videogame footage with adverts on them without youtube vetting or authorising the use of adverts

 

6: 2nd vid says people will still be able to upload videogame content, but those who are under contract with MCN's will only be able to add adverts without checks if their MCN upgrades them to partners.

7: 2nd vid says that only people close to the higher ups at MCN's have been given partnership status, which is less than 10%.

8: 2nd vid says that the other 90% affiliates are still tied into paying their MCN's nearly 40% of their add revenue with no sign of being able to negociate a change in contract.

 

 

What they all have in common:

 

Come January, YouTube will change how videogame content is handled on it's site.

 

What they disagree on:

 

Who will be affected and to how severe e.g. Every user will be banned from uploading new videogame content, or how bad the level of authorisation/checking will be.

 

 

Update: This seems to be related to the below, but goes into a lot more detail as to whats happening.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB9pCFzZfLg

 

 

Calling this one a rumor, but according to the source, they've spoken to several high profile youtubers who mainly do videogame footage including Angry Joe, all of which have also seen the press release.

 

YouTube is going to ban all videogame footage from videos, this includes reviews and news stories.

 

Edit: It's not an outright ban, but uploading videogame media is now going to be much harder and having adds on it will become very difficult too.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLrQ14mEOg

 

Basically, YouTube will become (for videogames at least) what YouTube would look like had SOPA passed.

 

The number of copywrite claims has gotten so insane that aparently youtube are going to effectively ban videogame footage from being used in videos. This will not only just affect popular youtube channels, but also media outlets like IGN who use youtube.

 

Not seen another source for this, hence the rumor label, but if this is true, at some point in the near future, any new youtube video that contains videogame footage, even if the developer has said it's ok to use that footage, will be removed from youtube.

 

Edit: From the sounds of it, it suggests that this ban would be to only videos that attempt to monotomise the footage. So you could still get uploaded videogame content, but you couldn't get ad revenue from it.

 

This would however mean that channels such as jontron, game grumps, totalbiscuit, angry joe (to a point) AVGN (to a point), Happy console gamer (to a point) would all have to stop putting up videos that contained gameplay, or stop putting add revenue on them.

 

Edit: Frogging has pointed out the following.

 

 

 

Angry Joe has Tweets from the past 24 hours that support this, such as these for example:
https://twitter.com/...422616475525120
https://twitter.com/...422790480404480
https://twitter.com/...433710900314112

Check his Twitter for additional relevant tweets, there are quite a few.
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That would suck. Youtube is the easiest/best way for moe to check new footage out. Most other players just stop loading on me after a bit.

 

So would the companies themselves still be allowed to upload videos?

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Sounds like a rumour to me. If anything showing gameplay footage actually advertises the game to extent. Sounds as if somebody either took something the wrong way or heard something and blown it out of proportion to what was originally said. Also no news or mention from Youtube yet and they usually give notice to these kinds of things. 

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I think someone has thrown an elaborately disguised wrench into the works of the general Youtube consensus to cause a mass panic.

 

It doesn't help that Youtube is currently getting backlash for forced Google+ activation to continue using the complete functions of your channel, so I'm taking this with a HUGE grain of salt.

 

Because if it passes, then people who depend solely off ad revenue for their content, and people working for IGN or Machinima are going to essentially have their lives and income ruined.

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Hmmm.. I personally put this has a rumour since some official companies actually do post gameplay footage in their videos so it will affect them and some of the big names that are on Youtube use gameplay footage that they are partnered up with Google giving them revenue. For big companies like IGN, Eurogamer who use that for streams, trailers and reviews, it will affect them as well plus any game that has a upload to Youtube function. It just might be a miscommunication regarding the big names since they get money for it and Google is putting a stop to it or at least what I think so they can still upload but not getting money for it.

 

If it does happen though then people will just use Youtube less or not at all and find somewhere else to go. People stream on UStream and Twitch these days.

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Yeah this is so ridiculous it's barely worth discussing unless something official comes from Google.

I'm in the same boat as you. This is pretty far-fetched by my own terms.
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How the hell would they even monitor this?  People upload hundreds (if not thousands?) of gameplay videos every day.  Would they have systems in place to recognise the HUD elements of every game ever or something?

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Angry Joe has Tweets from the past 24 hours that support this, such as these for example:
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/408422616475525120
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/408422790480404480
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/408433710900314112

Check his Twitter for additional relevant tweets, there are quite a few.

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How the hell would they even monitor this?  People upload hundreds (if not thousands?) of gameplay videos every day.  Would they have systems in place to recognise the HUD elements of every game ever or something?

Probably if you upload it and it gets reported or noticed or something, they'll delete it and warn you and if you keep repeating you get banned.

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Oh, wow.  That would be hilarious.  The backlash would be insane.  The theory that only monetised video game footage is getting the thumbs-down sounds more plausible, though - can we look forward to a grand-scale revisit of the debates over whether Nintendo was ethically right or wrong to intervene in the monetisation of footage from their games?

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Angry Joe has Tweets from the past 24 hours that support this, such as these for example:

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/408422616475525120

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/408422790480404480

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/408433710900314112

Check his Twitter for additional relevant tweets, there are quite a few.

 

Does Joe have any basis for this shit? The second one has been there for years.

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Does Joe have any basis for this shit? The second one has been there for years.

I think he was saying in that one that recently he's been getting hit even more by the content matching thing, and that the new system (the Managers and Affiliates thing) will make it even harder. I don't know where his source is; the video in the OP says that he and others got it from a "press release". In any case, I don't think a YouTuber as prominent as Joe would post rumour mill crap or hearsay.

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So anyone remember this from the google+ topic?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTq8TrA3hb4

 

At the end she says 'I have a meeting with google soon... ... . shit!' I wonder if this was how Joe and Tech review found out?

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I think he was saying in that one that recently he's been getting hit even more by the content matching thing, and that the new system (the Managers and Affiliates thing) will make it even harder. I don't know where his source is; the video in the OP says that he and others got it from a "press release". In any case, I don't think a YouTuber as prominent as Joe would post rumour mill crap or hearsay.

 

I wonder about that.

 

Anyways, I'm with Element on this. The only thing I use youtube for is LPs for background noise. Take that away and I has absolutely no reason to go there.

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This is real!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB9pCFzZfLg

 

Sorta...

 

Basically, theres these groups on youtube called MCN's they're people like Machinima and Polaris, and basically they've been told by youtube to decide which of their content providers are 'partners' or 'affiliates.'

 

How it used to work.

 

Say you signed up with an MCN, you could upload videogame footage under their network banner and not worry about monotomisation, you can set adds on it without it being reviewed.

 

The downside, the MCN takes a cut out of your revenue.

 

This is set to change.

 

If you are an 'affiliate' (the vast majority) you are basically boned. If your network designates you an affiliate, your content will now be heavilly modified and vetted whenver you upload a video and you will still need to send money to your MCN. 

 

So how is this gonna affect content? From the sounds of it, initially it will only affect members of the MCN's. However this has a ripple effect. some of these affiliates earn a living from their uploads, now they may no longer be able to.

 

The video confirms that even a content provider like Angry Joe is an affiliate!

 

Best part... the MCN's are not changing the contracts with the affiliates, they're now getting even less money for upload.

 

How will this affect everyone else... unsure. Though I can't see this being a good move for everybody.

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Well with Machinema we have SomeCallMeJohnny and Polaris has Yogscast. My God, Youtube just wants to die, its going to screw most of its big viewing channels.

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