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He most likely means because of all the things Youtube/Google has done to piss off their regular users over the past several years, it just shows they could care less if you stay or go, because there are going to be so many people that continue to go to youtube, regardless of how bad the site is, that they could care two shits if they piss off one major section of their site, because there are other major sections in this site.

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He most likely means because of all the things Youtube/Google has done to piss off their regular users over the past several years, it just shows they could care less if you stay or go, because there are going to be so many people that continue to go to youtube, regardless of how bad the site is, that they could care two shits if they piss off one major section of their site, because there are other major sections in this site.

Even so, bad word of mouth will probably eventually catch up if they don't get their act together, and they really need to watch their step from this point forward; they are trekking increasingly thin ice.

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Also, the more I'm reading into all this, it seems more to me that it is the music people causing all the problems instead of the video game publishers and such. These music people are the ones flipping their lids and setting off alot of these claims from what I'm seeing over saying that the video game developers dont own exclusive rights to the music so even the publishers themselves using the music in their trailers is upsetting them. So, it is appearing more and more that it is the music industry that is doing alot of this and not the video game companies, minus nintendo.

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Why is the music industry so damn protective of their songs? It's not like they still don't make a shit load of money.

 

Because its dying and on its arse that's why. Not saying I agree what is happening with Youtube but I know why the Music Industry is doing this.

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Yet at the same time, the music industry is getting so picky that if they even think the music is there, even when its not things are getting flagged. I've seen more than one case now of these people with original video games getting content ID'ed as well for things like music and sound effects and sometimes the things aren't even there and the person coded the things from scratch. It's ridiculous.

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Yet at the same time, the music industry is getting so picky that if they even think the music is there, even when its not things are getting flagged. I've seen more than one case now of these people with original video games getting content ID'ed as well for things like music and sound effects and sometimes the things aren't even there and the person coded the things from scratch. It's ridiculous.

 

Maybe that is their new strategy: Steal other people's work online by having them flagged, then sell it back to them for extra cash while also stealing their ad revenue.

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Why is the music industry so damn protective of their songs? It's not like they still don't make a shit load of money.

 

You're asking why a group of companies are annoyed that people are making illegal copies (and making a profit) of content that belongs to said companies?

....are you serious?

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Maybe that is their new strategy: Steal other people's work online by having them flagged, then sell it back to them for extra cash while also stealing their ad revenue.

 

I know I read something, that too make those music companies shut up, is that the video game companies WOULD have to buy exclusive rights to the music, thus they can't pick on them on youtube, but that would cost the game developers a lot more money, rather than simply licensing or using the music as they are now. Right now, these video games don't have exclusive rights to the music, thus it gets these music and sound clips and such in all sorts of trouble due to those music people wanting more money.

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Don't know if already posted, but Kevin Smith speaks his disapproval on the subject matter.

 

The director of Clerks and Mallrats has sounded off on increasing concerns over YouTube's crackdown on some Let's Play video creators. As reported by GameSpot, Smith recently appeared on the Canadian television show George Stroumboulopoulos Tonight, and the director was perfectly candid about his feelings on the copyright debacle.

 

 

"They're not hurting anybody with clips of video games," said Smith. "Don't stamp down someone's creativity; even if it's someone else's creativity with other people's material, because you make found art out of art that you find."

 

Numerous YouTube creators were recently hit with copyright claims. The video service said in a statement that many of the claims focus on the music used in the games, or in the background.

 

Smith mentioned he knows "a lot of people" who have made a career for themselves by commenting on game footage, and YouTube's reinvigorated policies are trampling on freedom of expression. Multiple game publishers have shown their support for game video creators in recent weeks.

 

The 43-year old director also fielded a question on reports the NSA is spying on Xbox Live and World of Warcraft users. According to Smith, he's not worried.

 

"What are they gonna know? He looks at weird porn? I tell people that all the time," said Smith.

 

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/12/21/kevin-smith-lets-play-youtube-videos-not-hurting-anybody

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Sadly Google has become like almost every buissness in history, once you go too big you only care about the big decision makers and in this case it's the media companies breathing down their neck. They've finally succumbed to paranoid old fashioned buissness rights and law, out of fear of the trouble they could get into and everyone whose works fall into a grey area in law gets hit too.

The Internet over the years really has become the wild west of business, but this YouTube copyright BS can’t stay in effect without serious consequences. They’re using incapable machine code to decide content producers livelihoods! (which are also the people being most vocal about this) It’s easily exploited and has been countless times already, it's ridiculously undermanned in its maintenance and insulting to a large portion of what makes YouTube what it is today, It's reaching the point now that many people feel it should be renamed to a ThemTube.

I’ll admit I've always been resentful of America’s near monopoly of Internet video but; this is big news, like potentially Internet changing big. Google better tread carefully with how they fix it for everyone. On the one hand they have scam artists and ‘the men in suits’ to deal with and on the other hand a wronged, wrathful Internet community numbering in the millions, which in case you need reminding, can be a scary, world changing thing to deal with.
 

Theres a reason countries want to control the internet so much, because it’s one of the few things they fear, it has changed the world in so many ways I don’t think you could make a documentary, encyclopedia, or even website big enough to cover everything about it’s impact.
 

With all the power governments and businesses have over us we can’t just let them erode away our voices and rights like this, while at the same time them having the double standard that it's ok for them to have access to our personal information like assets on the stockmarket .

SOPA was the start, YouTube now with these half assed policy changes is just part of the aftermath.

and you know what? Unless the publics voice becomes loud enough, Google won't ever care, it's on the rich societies side now and has been slowly turning that way for a while, I'd explain why but this post is long enough already.

All I do know is, for change to happen everyone needs to band together, and make a new community. Want to know what happens if we don't? Google working with governments and companies will be what enslaves the internet, crippling creativity and public outreach unless you have deep pockets, reducing and censoring choice and opinions, making it even harder for people starting out, and then one day you'll wake up and realise the internet is now just as dull, if not worse as TV.

[/rant]

But hey! It's just a bunch of people doing reviews and playing videogames right? =P

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I'm still failing to see how a large company attempting to protect itself from possible legal troubles is a bad thing...

 

If you get a copyright strike, you can appeal it. If you're using the content legally then you should have no problem, even if they still pull it you can continue to appeal for it. If you can't justify your claim..then you're breaking the law and you shouldn't be uploading that content...where's the issue there?

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Looking back at my favorites, I noticed  the other day that most of the music videos (video game music mind you) that was taken off was mostly stuff that either broke a couple 100,000 views or extensions basically. It might just be coincidence but it might just be videos that get too popular (which wouldn't make sense because then you would have to restrict who watches them). Reason why I say this is because I see literally the same thing but by a different person  but with less views and with sometimes an extension but the first point still stands.

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I'm still failing to see how a large company attempting to protect itself from possible legal troubles is a bad thing...

 

If you get a copyright strike, you can appeal it. If you're using the content legally then you should have no problem, even if they still pull it you can continue to appeal for it. If you can't justify your claim..then you're breaking the law and you shouldn't be uploading that content...where's the issue there?

 

Probably because some people are only concerned about the recent videogame content that they used to upload but now can't because of YouTube/Google changing their policies and thus don't express no concern  about the legal troubles of YouTube/'s legal state itself, whether it be out of ignorance, apathy, or some other thing. They just know that YouTube/Google made the changes and thus direct their anger over their new found loss towards them (a la don't shoot the messenger).

 

Not agreeing/defending/trying to justify these people or their grievances (and whether they have a point is another story) or identifying/implying anyone here is doing so, just pulling out the only reason I can think of.

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I'm still failing to see how a large company attempting to protect itself from possible legal troubles is a bad thing...

 

If you get a copyright strike, you can appeal it. If you're using the content legally then you should have no problem, even if they still pull it you can continue to appeal for it. If you can't justify your claim..then you're breaking the law and you shouldn't be uploading that content...where's the issue there?

The issue is not that they've put a system in place for preventing copyright, the issue is how it's almost completly automatic making it terrible at it's job, easily exploited as well as taking the side of the prosecution NEVER the defence.

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I'm still failing to see how a large company attempting to protect itself from possible legal troubles is a bad thing...

 

If you get a copyright strike, you can appeal it. If you're using the content legally then you should have no problem, even if they still pull it you can continue to appeal for it. If you can't justify your claim..then you're breaking the law and you shouldn't be uploading that content...where's the issue there?

 

The thing with appealing from what I hear, if they for some reason decide you are wrong, you get in even more trouble.

 

I've seen a lot of the lets players I watch all lately switching to indie games, gmod, minecraft and other such things for the time being it seems in response to all this. Many of them are afraid to do anything that isn't small or online gaming at the moment due to all the copyright stuff. If anyone starts humming or singing something on their mind, people all tell them to shut up immediately or they will get copyrighted. They are all becoming quite paranoid of this it seems and it really does suck.

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