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14 minutes ago, FFWF said:

Sonic's design has always shifted and evolved between games; his sprite in Sonic 3 is considerably closer to what we now call "Modern Sonic" than his sprite in the previous classic games.  The division between "Classic" and "Modern" designs is an anachronistic and retrospective classification which bears no resemblance to the actual continuity of Sonic's designs over the years.  There is no Classic and Modern Sonic; and there certainly won't be in the movie.

Kind of agree with this. Sonic in s3k was very very similar to SA1 sonic, minus the green eyes. In fact when the in game model first appeared I thought that's exactly what that was. His spines are a tad longer, that's really it.

58 minutes ago, Blue Knight/Bluestreak said:

That's what a sonic boom is, is breaking the sound barrier. Which means faster than the speed of sound. The Modern 3D boost games show this the best.

I know what a sonic boom is. Sonic however is not actually moving at those speeds in the games, despite the effect. I think awhile back when the games were first releases it was calculated that his speeds were actually in the 300s of mph based on his in game velocities. Have to find that reference but I remember it. I could understand the argument though, so I dont blame you for thinking that.

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2 hours ago, FFWF said:

his sprite in Sonic 3 is considerably closer to what we now call "Modern Sonic" than his sprite in the previous classic games.

I can agree there, which is why I like it more than the other Classic games.

 

1 hour ago, UpCDownCLeftCRightC said:

I think awhile back when the games were first releases it was calculated that his speeds were actually in the 300s of mph based on his in game velocities. Have to find that reference but I remember it. I could understand the argument though, so I dont blame you for thinking that.

I think Unleashed did a speed measure and it went over into the 1,000's. But if the 300's Mph thing is true, then why say that he's faster than the speed of sound? When the speed of sound is 767.269 Mph.

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24 minutes ago, Blue Knight/Bluestreak said:

I think Unleashed did a speed measure and it went over into the 1,000's. But if the 300's Mph thing is true, then why say that he's faster than the speed of sound? When the speed of sound is 767.269 Mph.

Because he can't actually go faster than the speed of sound in a video game or the player wouldn't be able to keep up.

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I know it's extremely unlikely but I just wish they would cancel this movie because I (and a lot of other people I'm sure) have no hope whatsoever that this movie will be good, or even so bad it's good. There apparently won't even be that many Sonic characters (in a SONIC THE HEDGEHOG MOVIE), the plot of the movie is a generic friendship/buddy cop plot where Sonic needs a friend even though he has his best friend he has known for over 25 years, Tails (seriously what is up with the Tails neglect SEGA?), Green Hill is back for the millionth time (Thanks, Iizuka!), and the mere fact that it's live action/CGI instead of fully CGI. Another reason why I wish for this movie to be cancelled is because Sonic's reputation is already not so good (Again, thanks Iizuka!) and we really don't need this movie to ruin the franchise's reputation even more. I know for a fact that it's completly possible for the Sonic franchise to be good, it just needs to be run by more competent people who had experience with the Sonic franchise before (and Christian Whitehead)

Personally, I'd much rather have a movie based on the Sonic Boom TV show than this. (I know that's also extremely unlikely to happen but hey I can dream can't I)

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17 minutes ago, Diogenes said:

Man who could've guessed that a Sonic movie would use the series' most iconic and well known location?

Okay, I can kind of understand why the Sonic movie would use "the series' most iconic and well known location". My bad.

It's just that over the past few years, SEGA/Sonic Team has been bringing back so many old levels that have now been re-used more than enough times. Sometimes it was understandable (Generations and Mania, though Mania was said to be a celebration of past and future, yet the majority of it is remixed stages from old games), but now it's gotten to the point where they're relying on using old levels instead of making actual original levels. It's not just old levels that they've been relying on either. They also rely on old concepts (specifically wisps, 2D Sections, and Classic Sonic in Modern Sonic games). It's gotten to the point where the franchise has become so stale and it frustrates me every time I see overly re-used levels/concepts come back when they could instead make something actually original and execute it properly. Seeing a town named "Green Hill" in this movie reminds me of how Sonic Team is refusing to actually try to improve the series (Such as maybe revisiting the Adventure formula. And no, I'm not saying they should make Sonic Adventure 3) and instead play it safe by relying on old concepts/levels that worked in the past.

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22 hours ago, Blue Knight/Bluestreak said:

Since that's the case, then I'll have no problem with Sonic's new design.

Indeed, looks good to me.

I mean i would have been okay if they did the Alvin and the chipmunks style but Sonic needs to be Sonic

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33 minutes ago, MadmanRB said:

Indeed, looks good to me.

I mean i would have been okay if they did the Alvin and the chipmunks style but Sonic needs to be Sonic

You're way more tolerant than me and I salute you for that. I mean, I've never liked any of the live action redesigns of cartoon characters I've seen but if Sonic looks like this

23 hours ago, CaptainRobo said:

 

I could live with that pretty easily, even if I have to tell myself to think of his quills like the thorns of a teddy bear cactus;
fuzzy from afar
images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRUvhgYSnC48LJXUwmgXk
and dangerously spiky up close
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to get over not treating his quills as quills.

Now though, if that is how he looks then it is just time for the movie to convince me that buddy cop is a good fit when Indiana Jones-like would have been so much better and truthful to Sonic's roots as an adventurer. Of course I still question why live action at all, but if the movie gives me a reason to give it a chance I will. Of course though I'm still going to have to deal with the embarrassment of trying to explain it to my dad when he inevitably sees the trailer when it finally debuts. By that won't be fun.

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13 minutes ago, Sonic Fan J said:

You're way more tolerant than me and I salute you for that. I mean, I've never liked any of the live action redesigns of cartoon characters I've seen but if Sonic looks like this

I could live with that pretty easily, even if I have to tell myself to think of his quills like the thorns of a teddy bear cactus;
fuzzy from afar
images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRUvhgYSnC48LJXUwmgXk
and dangerously spiky up close
468-0468x.jpg

to get over not treating his quills as quills.

Now though, if that is how he looks then it is just time for the movie to convince me that buddy cop is a good fit when Indiana Jones-like would have been so much better and truthful to Sonic's roots as an adventurer. Of course I still question why live action at all, but if the movie gives me a reason to give it a chance I will. Of course though I'm still going to have to deal with the embarrassment of trying to explain it to my dad when he inevitably sees the trailer when it finally debuts. By that won't be fun.

Well my rationale is that for big screen movies design changes are acceptable as long as the spirit and the sense of the original is kept.

Sometimes this is good, again hate to say this but I liked the live designs for Alvin and the Chipmunks as I dont think the original design would have loaned itself to computer animation, even if they didnt decide to do live action.

And there is a good rational why some studios do chose live action as the limits of live action present a special challenge to animators especially CGI that has issues with the uncanny valley effect.

This prefects technique for larger budget films plus helps refine how certain aspects of character design are done.

Especially when it comes to fur, man is fur notorious in CGI for hard to do.

I mean it took til Zootopia to get that right and now that has been near perfected in the realm of animation it is time to see how live action will do.

This does lead to good places even if the movie is crap, even if the Sonic movie sucks at least they got a new model to play with for future movies featuring CGI animals.

Its the only real good side to bullshit like this, if the movie sucks yes it is a shame but some of the animators may hone in some skills to help them get jobs elsewhere so at least its a win for them.

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Fair points. Sometimes as a consumer I get too involved with the product and forget the creative side and what can be gained from it. That said though, the last time a character with similar proportions to Sonic was adapted for a live action/CGI hybrid we ended up with the Garfield movies and we know how those were received. Of course though that is sometimes the problem with trying to tackle things that were obviously made as caricatures or with total disregard to realism in the first place; realism was never part of the design concept so something needs to give and that is usually where the creative decisions have a tendency of getting questionable. This might be one of the few times that Iizuka's input is to the benefit of the fans, though unless we see some of the early concepts that could be just a lot of hot air.

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7 hours ago, Prof. Pickle said:

I know it's extremely unlikely but I just wish they would cancel this movie because I (and a lot of other people I'm sure) have no hope whatsoever that this movie will be good, or even so bad it's good. There apparently won't even be that many Sonic characters (in a SONIC THE HEDGEHOG MOVIE), the plot of the movie is a generic friendship/buddy cop plot where Sonic needs a friend even though he has his best friend he has known for over 25 years, Tails (seriously what is up with the Tails neglect SEGA?), Green Hill is back for the millionth time (Thanks, Iizuka!), and the mere fact that it's live action/CGI instead of fully CGI. Another reason why I wish for this movie to be cancelled is because the Sonic franchise (except for Classic Sonic) is in a rut and we really don't need this movie to ruin the franchise's reputation even more. I know for a fact that it's completly possible for the Sonic franchise to be good, it just needs to be run by more competent people who had experience with the Sonic franchise before (and Christian Whitehead)

Personally, I'd much rather have a movie based on the Sonic Boom TV show than this. (I know that's also extremely unlikely to happen but hey I can dream can't I)

Lol

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On 12/7/2018 at 8:14 PM, CaptainRobo said:

 

If that's what he really looks similar to, then I will be absolutely fine with Sonic's design and textures in the movie. Honestly, that's probably the best case scenario we could get here-- I'll be glad to see if whoever was calling the shots managed to make him work in an endearing way a lot like Pikachu did in Detective Pikachu.

Now for the movie's content. I'm not that peeved that Sonic's friends aren't in this, and am sort of looking forward to Sonic's dynamic with this Tom cop guy, which looks interesting in terms of conflict and character development for the both of them. I think their friendship will be unique when compared to the others, and to better develop it, I don't mind the use of just Sonic and Eggman. I really hope that this is a fun film to watch, whatever happens.

Now all they have to do is use typical try-hard, aaaaawwwwkaaaard movie humor and an over-reliance on crude and possibly sexual jokes to completely and utterly ruin this movie for me.

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By the way, since it's been bugging me for a bit throwing around a piece of art without crediting the original artist

1) Here's the full picture by Mauricio Abril
Mauricio-Abril-POPCade-Sonic-the-Hedgeho

and 2) here's the link to his website (http://www.mauricioabril.com/) as well as directly to the article talking about the piece (http://www.mauricioabril.com/2014/05/12/popcade-show-success/#!prettyPhoto)

Okay, with that done continue as normal please (though despite having seen this picture for the first time sometime back I just now noticed that Tails, Amy, & Knuckles are also in the pic)

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On 12/7/2018 at 8:14 PM, CaptainRobo said:

 

Hopefully Sonic looks more detailed than this. This still doesn't fit into live action. Add more detail to the eyes and the limbs (twig arms/legs make no sense anatomically) and the peach colored parts should be furry too or have a realistic texture. He still looks like a plastic doll. 

They need to fully embrace the Pikachu art style. Classic design but realistic details. 

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I think it will be a more modern sonic with added "realism" like in that picture a few posts above. I do hope though that if it does turn out to be "classic sonic", meaning that sonic has his classic brown/black eyes instead of green, that some fans do not get salty over it. For one, I've never been a huge fan of the distinction in the first place (although it makes sense and I get it) and would rather sonic just be called sonic in the mainstream. I'd also like the series to follow suit and just put it's best foot forward with one idealized sonic in the main games, but that's another thread.

Anyway, brown/black eyes vs green eyes, hope people dont care either way.

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That art style doesn't looks so bad... but... I personally also have no hopes left for the movie. They almost never talk about it and we still have to see some trailers. This movie will come out next year and we have seen nothing of it. 

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43 minutes ago, UpCDownCLeftCRightC said:

I think it will be a more modern sonic with added "realism" like in that picture a few posts above. I do hope though that if it does turn out to be "classic sonic", meaning that sonic has his classic brown/black eyes instead of green, that some fans do not get salty over it. For one, I've never been a huge fan of the distinction in the first place (although it makes sense and I get it) and would rather sonic just be called sonic in the mainstream. I'd also like the series to follow suit and just put it's best foot forward with one idealized sonic in the main games, but that's another thread.

Anyway, brown/black eyes vs green eyes, hope people dont care either way.

The Classic design is more iconic to the nostalgic audience although I'm sure the majority of people can't be bothered to tell the difference between Classic and Modern. I think he will be Classic, though. I.e brown eyes, shorter legs and round stomach. All signs point to their version of Sonic being more  Classic-inspired 

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9 hours ago, Sonic Fan J said:

By the way, since it's been bugging me for a bit throwing around a piece of art without crediting the original artist

1) Here's the full picture by Mauricio Abril
Mauricio-Abril-POPCade-Sonic-the-Hedgeho

and 2) here's the link to his website (http://www.mauricioabril.com/) as well as directly to the article talking about the piece (http://www.mauricioabril.com/2014/05/12/popcade-show-success/#!prettyPhoto)

Okay, with that done continue as normal please (though despite having seen this picture for the first time sometime back I just now noticed that Tails, Amy, & Knuckles are also in the pic)

What a time for me to accidentally click this thread.

 

Wtf is up with Buffles and Amy back there with Dreamcast!Tails?

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