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When is Rouge gonna be in the movie?

Are the emeralds gonna be in the movie?

Will human guy be forced to say "give back the emeralds or die" because he doesn't love her?

Or will he actually be in love and sing a song about how "she's sexy and smoov"?

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So, extreme ugliness aside, I do want to emphasis that as a design in and of itself, it doesn't make any sense.

For some reason, in the trailer, his muzzle is Sonic's regular flesh color but his stomach and his painted hands are full on, bleach white. 

The reason his hands are white is because they want to simulate his gloves without giving him gloves. However, they let him keep his shoes. Yet they also take away his socks and don't add white paint to simulate socks in their place.

I don't get it. Even if he didn't make it hard for me to eat while looking at him, I don't really understand what exactly some of these changes were trying to accomplish. Some of them I do see what they were going for and feel that they were wrong for thinking the way they did but stuff like this just boggles the mind.

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48 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Alright. I'm home now and I've had a few hours to process what I saw. It didn't do much good because I generally think and feel the same as I did when I initially watched the trailer.

Which is the same I felt when I was following the news of this thread. Which is the same I felt when I first heard the Sonic movie was going to be live-action. All this did, was pretty much confirm what I and a lot of other people already knew so there's not too much to be surprised about.

I'm not even going to bother entertaining  anyone who comes at me with the whole "Wait until the movie is out" song and dance. That's just the annoying cousin of the "wait until the trailer is out" defense and it often leads to the same result.

This movie is gonna be bad. It's gonna be shit.There's nothing we can do about it at this point.

Seeing the poster in the lobby of the movie theater, my friend asked me if I was going to see it since he knew how huge a Sonic fan I was. I said that I didn't want to but he suggested it might be good to riff on. I like the idea of that, especially since it's most certainly going to bomb so the theater might be empty. So maybe I will... but I'm dreading it because, aside from the one positive about the trailer, it doesn't even look like it'll be the fun kind of bad. 

This trailer was chock full of the same, old, dusty, tired ass jokes we've seen over and over again. We just got this a few months ago with Detective Pikachu. Some guy walks into his house and discovers the ugly CG thing there. Only this trailer takes it a step further by doing the whole "The man screams and then the CG trash-panda screams too" thing. Also, as time went on my thoughts and feelings about the Detective Pikachu designs and the idea of it has shifted more into the positive. I still don't think it'll be anything amazing but that sense of it being straight up unbearable isn't there anymore. That cannot be said for Sonic here.

I've known about and seen this Sonic design for a long while by this point and unlike Detective Deadpool, everytime I look at it, Sonic's design looks worse.

It's just horrendously bad. It's ugly. It's unpleasant. I can't look at it without feeling like there's something slimy in my throat. The way he's animated, especially his gross, almost wrinkly mouth, is uncanny valley to the enth degree.

The design change has been confirmed for me to be wholly unnecessary now. If this change was made to make him look and feel more realistic, than they fucking failed. He looks fake as shit. He's clearly not there. This is no Thanos. It's not even a Detective Pikachu. It's almost too fake looking. At least if he had his original design, he'd be pleasant to look at. Maybe then they could go for a more Roger Rabbit thing where the contrast was the literal point. 

That is, if it absolutely had to be live-action, which is doesn't. It just doesn't. There's nothing here that would leave me or anyone in the general public to believe that this movie was better off taking this direction. 

Ben Schwartz, from what I hear in this trailer, and previously the only positive news I heard, actually doesn't sound all that impressive. As a first impression take on his voice I feel he doesn't do a bad job  but it doesn't really sound like the voice of a fantasy character. Kind of sounds like a slightly higher pitched normal... dude. Which is fine, but for me, personally, it's hard imagining that voice coming out of Sonic. Since this thing isn't Sonic, I guess it's easier to mesh the two though.

I have a positive though. The only positive actually. Ironically it was the one major negative I had before this trailer. The Ben Schwartz and Jim Carrey thing kind of did a flip for me after watching it. Jim Carrey is most likely going to be doing the Jim Carrey Shuffle throughout this entire movie and I'm on board for that. What he's doing and saying isn't particularly clever or really all that funny on it's own, but his delivery in these scenes managed to get me to laugh.

It was one laugh. I laughed once. Still, 'one' is more than 'none' so I have to give credit where it's due. That man knows how to mug for a camera.

That bit at the end where he looks like actual Eggman was... interesting. I feel like it's fairly obvious that form of his will barely be in the movie. It might even be an after-credits scene to set up the sequel that's never happening.

Make no mistake too, this movie's not getting a sequel. SO not happening dude.

In conclusion, Jim Carrey looks like he'll be mildly amusing but he certainly won't be able to save it. This movie was doomed from the word go with all the development hell, studio hopping, and terrible concepts on the face of it.

I even remember the initial reaction to hearing it would be live-action. People compared it to the Smurfs and some mouthpiece had to come out and reassure us it wouldn't be like the Smurfs. And yet here we are. Blue CGI thing shows up to "OUR WORLD" and has to be kept secret in the duffel bag by our generic human "audience" surrogate. 

Oh but DA BIG BAD MILITARY HAS TO COME AND STO-Jesus Christ...

That’s the problem with Exact Words: Dumbo the Garfield won’t be like the Smurfs because there’s only one of them, and there’s a military, and it’s set in a small town, or other minor points, rather than the core of the film, make this part of a long, declining line of films from Scooby-Doo all the way up to Dumbo. 

 

As for this affecting the rest of the franchise; did the RE films ever affect the games? In any way? I hope this applies to Dumbo the Garfield, too.

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Assuming the people involved made the movie they wanted and made it with the assumption that people are gonna like it, I wonder what goes through their mind when they see the less than 50% approval on the trailers.

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Final thought for today: can't put myself through the torture of reading 30+ pages of new comments, but was anybody in the "HE HAS TO LOOK REALISTIC TO MAKE SENSE" camp complain about the trailer using the actual game sound effects? I hope they did, because remember, IT HAS TO BE REALISTIC and those sound effects are NOT fitting into the setting, trailer or not.

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If the trailer isn't a reflection of the final product in such a way to make all the dissenting opinions on it negligible than why the fuck would you bother putting the trailer out in the first place? If that were true (which it's not) that still sounds like it'd be worthy of scorn and ridicule if only to chastise you about the really dumb thing you did with your marketing. 

 

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This looks absolutely horrendous, bland, unfunny and I honestly don’t think there is anything positive to say about Sonic’s design. The claws on his fingers, the naked, skinny legs and body...ewww it’s just super unappealing to me! Imagine what Tails and Knuckles would’ve looked like?! Thank God they’re not around..also, not a big fan of Ben Schwartz’s voice. It seems off for some reason. 

I guess the only somewhat decent thing about this was Jim Carrey as Dr Robotnik, but even that seems too typical crazy Jim Carrey shtick. I chuckled a bit but more in disbelief than cos it was genuinely funny.

I’ll be seeing Detective Pikachu on the big screen in two weeks. This though? Never! 

 

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4 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

The typical "They tried their best" defense.

I wonder if I could call up my old teachers who gave me homework/tests/projects I failed and get my permanent record fixed up if I tell them I did my best.

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10 minutes ago, DreamSaturn said:

The typical "They tried their best" defense.

I wonder if I could call up my old teachers who gave me homework/tests/projects I failed and get my permanent record fixed up if I tell them I did my best.

I suppose those people who developed Fallout 76 and any other big AAA game that under performs critically and/or commercially fall under the same umbrella. They probably put their heart and soul doing their job, but in the end they are probably not the ones responsible for how terrible it is. The blame lies nearer the top of the ladder. The ones who told them what to do and how to do it. A creative piece with hundreds if not thousands of people working on it should not be given slack for the sake of all those backroom boys and girls who worked tirelessly if its bad. They may have had no choice in the direction. I feel very sorry for them, but any amount of justified criticism shouldn't be censored.

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I just cannot believe how different the Detective Pikachu and Sonic teaser trailers are from eachother, at complete opposite ends of the spectrum. 

Even if you do not care for the live action Pokémon designs in the movie, you cannot deny that they look FAR superior to whatever the hell they have done with Sonic. Besides additional detail and textures to make them fit into the real world, they stay true to the originals. Their silhouettes are exactly like the game versions and even the way they act is the same. Just look at this trailer! 

Again, say what you will about the actual designs but the people behind Detective Pikachu put a lot of care and attention to detail into these Pokémon designs. And that’s pretty great!

Sonic the hedgehog on the other hand does not stick to his recognisable silhouette shape and comes off looking really creepy and...naked, due to his lanky body and skinny legs. Don’t even get me started on the face! The eyes, the mouth and the teeth. It looks SO wrong! He isn’t cute (IMO), nor charming, nor very relatable. It’s so ugly. Sure he’s got his super speed, but even that might not be like the games according to the Reddit plot details. If the Sonic movie can’t make their own bloody main character appealing, then you fail!  

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9 minutes ago, Jango said:

Notice how SEGA logo is completely alone in the opening credits, unlike Sonic Mania which had the "proudly presents" in literally every trailer, animation, annoucement. Even the official Sonic Facebook page simply shared the trailer, no word, no comment, not even a: "Here's the trailer for the upcoming Sonic movie!". Nothing, just the link. 

That's not a coincidence. Ah, to be a fly in SEGA's office today... How come they give the thumbs up to that after what Big Red Button did to Sonic not long ago...? It's their flagship IP. What about all those talks regarding quality control? SEGA should be waaaay above this at this point. How come they think this is good, even as its own thing? It uses their property, their characters... Sigh.

Even SEGA turn the other cheek.

 

(this makes them better than Disney at this, as they did this to Dumbo by themselves)

 

I will too. 

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49 minutes ago, Jango said:

Notice how SEGA logo is completely alone in the opening credits, unlike Sonic Mania which had the "proudly presents" in literally every trailer, animation, annoucement. Even the official Sonic Facebook page simply shared the trailer, no word, no comment, not even a: "Here's the trailer for the upcoming Sonic movie!". Nothing, just the link. 

That's not a coincidence. Ah, to be a fly in SEGA's office today... How come they give the thumbs up to that after what Big Red Button did to Sonic not long ago...? It's their flagship IP. What about all those talks regarding quality control? SEGA should be waaaay above this at this point. How come they think this is good, even as its own thing? It uses their property, their characters... Sigh.

Meanwhile when Detective Pikachu first debuted, you saw the logos of ALL the companies that were involved(in some way shape or form) with that movie.

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