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13 hours ago, StaticMania said:

It doesn't matter, as the manual says, they crossed paths multiple times before.

It matters to me, and I don't care what the manual says. I've always believed that Sonic 1 was where it all started, and nothing is going to convince me otherwise.

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9 minutes ago, Splash the Otter said:

It matters to me, and I don't care what the manual says. I've always believed that Sonic 1 was where it all started, and nothing is going to convince me otherwise.

Not to go too off topic here but two points to make.

1) if you're going to stick to your interpretation, why ask?

2) What marks Sonic 1 as a point of interest in the conflict of Sonic and Eggman (stated in the Japanese manual to not be their first encounter which is important since this is the story as seen by its creators) is that it is both the first time Eggman is actively looking for the Chaos Emeralds and uses animals in his machines. Of note however is that Eggman places the animals in his machines not to power them as would become the norm later on, but as active combat hostages to hamper Sonic and prevent him from going all out. It's actually one of Eggman's more sadistic actions in the franchise by using hostages as combatants. Another thing to note is also that Sonic is not from, nor lives on, South Island. He is aware of it and its inhabitants are aware of him (he is the most famous hedgehog in the world so it stands to reason that he would be known) and specifically contact him to save them from Eggman due to his reputation of stopping Eggman. So while you are free to ignore all this and consume the franchise as you see fit (especially considering a good deal of this background has been retconned in franchise even during the pre-Adventure days), at least back when it was released and the franchise was introduced to the world, Sonic 1 was not Eggman and Sonic's first encounter, but rather a first in many staples that would be a part of their continuing conflicts.

Now though, to tie things back to the movie, as I recall (really I should just go load Sonic Retro and double check) the Japanese manual states that Sonic has no idea why Eggman first started coming after him, so having Eggman as the instigator instead of Sonic is paralleled in the original Japanese version of the story.

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2 hours ago, Splash the Otter said:

It matters to me, and I don't care what the manual says. I've always believed that Sonic 1 was where it all started, and nothing is going to convince me otherwise.

In support of your choice, I'll remind everyone that the Sonic 3 Japanese manual got its own story wrong.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3_manuals

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Dr. Eggman, who escaped from the fallen Death Egg, was aware that the Chaos Emeralds were on the floating island.

Except the Chaos Emeralds weren't on the floating island. Sonic had them, until the Sonic 3 intro.

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12 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

It's a good thing Sonic 3 isn't the relevant manual, but thanks for sharing.

That 2nd translation seems more accurate.

Always welcome. Each time a new Sonic product comes out, continuity shifts. That's why the Chaos Emeralds have so many homes.

The second translation is equally wrong, since Robotnik would know Sonic already had the emeralds.

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To be fair, a lot of things from those old manuals probably aren't relevant anymore. Maybe Sonic 1 wasn't Sonic and Eggman's first encounter, maybe it was, who knows. It doesn't really matter unless they make a Sonic Origins game or something.

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On 7/18/2019 at 4:14 AM, BaronGrackle said:

Does it? Robotnik using animals as a power source (badniks) seems to have been replaced by Sonic's quills.

"Whatever this creature is...our job is to secure it, neutralize it, see what makes it tick". I'm pretty sure Robotnik wants Sonic and whatever other creatures are like Sonic. But the reason why I believe this film is going to have some sort of environmental message is because of what we heard about the test screening leak. And based on everything we've heard like the owls, Tom helping ducks cross the road, there seems to be common trend on animals

On 7/19/2019 at 1:34 PM, StaticMania said:

It doesn't matter, as the manual says, they crossed paths multiple times before.

While I don't really think that's relevant anymore "crossed paths multiple times" could also be referring to the events happening in the game, OR maybe it's describing the events that lead up to Sonic 1. Which yeah, technically takes place before the game, but ultimately it's the same story. It's relevant to the story of Sonic 1.

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17 hours ago, StaticMania said:

Sonic encountered Eggman during his travels before arriving on South Island, that is the idea...

Jeez.

I wasn't trying to be rude. I agree with you. I'm just saying that's still relevant in Sonic 1's story. That's what leads up to Sonic 1. Considering this movie doesn't know what South Island is, now that Green Hill is in America, it's probably treating Sonic 1 as Robotnik and Sonic's first encounter.

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Sonic 1 being the first meeting between Sonic and Eggman just strikes me as a strange thing to be so strongly convicted to, if you ask me.  Even ignoring the relevancy of the manuals, I don't see why this tiny tidbit really matters.  Even if it were, it's not like you can't go the whole game pretending otherwise and vice versa.

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4 hours ago, Gamecuber64 said:

Considering this movie doesn't know what South Island is, now that Green Hill is in America, it's probably treating Sonic 1 as Robotnik and Sonic's first encounter.

I assume in the movie that Green Hills is just a name by coincidence and Sonic goes there because he's lost in a new world and he sees a familiar name. I don't think it's literally meant to be the movie universe's Green Hill Zone. Just speculating of course.

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1 hour ago, tailsBOOM! said:

 

Maybe this is to avoid having to compete with The King’s Man? I don’t know. I’m no marketing expert. It’s looks promising and Paramount might think that it could take some ticket sales away from the movie.

 

Or maybe this could be for Australia?

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2 minutes ago, CaptainRobo said:

Maybe this is to avoid having to compete with The King’s Man? I don’t know. I’m no marketing expert. It’s looks promising and Paramount might think that it could take some ticket sales away from the movie.

 

Or maybe this could be for Australia?

It's an American account.  They either a) delayed it again or b) finally got to changing November but accidentally typed March instead of Valentine's Day

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21 minutes ago, tailsBOOM! said:

b) finally got to changing November but accidentally typed March instead of Valentine's Day

That’s probably might be possible. Hopefully, we get an update on this soon.

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I could believe a finger slipping and hitting  3 instead of 2 but typing a wrong word is much less plausible as a mistake.

In terms of competition March could potentially be stronger than February with a Pixar film, Godzilla vs King Kong and Mulan.

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