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9 hours ago, Myst said:

I swear the Sonic fanbase can really get on my nerves sometimes.


Look, I'm not going to defend this as some 'great revival' for Sonic. It very well could be 90 minutes of trash, but the hyperbolic reactions from the fans is dooming this project before it even gets off the ground.


For goodness sake, wait for a trailer before breaking out into a raging mob. I understand the concerns guys. I am concerned too, but a little optimism? Is that too much to ask? Do we have to complain EVERY TIME a new Sonic project is unveiled?


Can we take a moment and look at the POSITIVES from what we've seen?


I really liked the electricity crackling off of Sonic's feet in the first teaser. It was just a neat little detail that I admired. And the second poster.. Yeah those are some gnarly calves, but you guys are missing the focal point of the picture: SONIC'S GONNA ZIP DOWN THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE.. RADICAL HIGHWAY STYLE! That is gonna be an amazing sequence to behold.


Don't get me wrong, the memes ARE hilarious, but the negative backlash is unjustified until ACTUAL film footage is shown. This movie, for all we know at this point, COULD BE a really good movie, but the fanbase constantly complaining could destroy any chances it has. And that's a darn shame.

 

Nobody likes a whiner.

You realize you complain that the fanbase can get on your nerves because the fanbase is complaining that this new design (and how Sega has allowed it) is getting on their nerves, right? XD

It's fine if you don't like that people don't like this abomination and show it so passionately. But it doesn't make much sense asking people not to give it too much importance when you're maybe giving too much importance to a lot of unknown people opinions.

Honestly, I'm not dying for this, of course. It's not like my country is at war and I'm starving. It's not THAT bad. But I don't think I should feel bad for just saying I think this is one of the lowest moments in Sonic's history, and this movie looks like one of the worst videogame movies ever. I might be wrong about the latter, but in my experience, that's very likely the case.

I can only advice not to take Sonic fanbase opinions that seriously, if they actually affect you that much. Not worth it! :)

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4 hours ago, Marcello said:

Man, every time I think of Into the Spider-Verse, I get sad. Just imagine if we'd gotten a Sonic move as stylish as this:

 

It's even worse when you remember that Sony were the ones who were originally making it which makes me wonder why they didn't just used their animation studio instead. And if the leaked emails from the 2014 hack are to be believed an animated Mario movie by Genndy Tartakovsky before Illumination got their hands on it. God I hate this reality 

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16 hours ago, DreamSaturn said:

That's not exactly inspiring any confidence either when everything they've shown and said about the movie is varying levels of terrible.

It also doesn't hold any weight. Unless we have confirmed evidence of the regular team giving any more to this movie than a "sure whatever I don't care" I have zero reason to believe any official statements. I mean, they already lied about this "not being like the smurfs", which it definitely is. Why the hell should I trust a "oh they definitely did lots on the movie" from either the people producing the thing who obviously don't care about it or the person blindly defending it and trying to paint anyone who disagrees with him as an unreasonable moron? Especially with how many co-workers of the Sonic group were shocked and terrified (justifiably so) and obviously had nothing to do with it. Unless we get Iizuka being like "haha yeah I definitely made everything about this POS happen" there's no reason to assume it's anything more involved than it happening in the first place, especially with how inconsistent it is with how they've handled other attempts at spin offs and adaptations.

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4 hours ago, CaptainRobo said:

Writer’s warning.:

He also joked about the Mega Man Movie.:

 

There's a Megaman movie?

2 hours ago, Unidus said:

He's kinda made himself out to be a jerk. At the same time though, he's probably under attack from all fronts. And, to be perfectly fair, should he be the one who's getting all this hate? He is one of the writers after all. I doubt he really had that* much influence in Sonic's design...

That being said though, he certainly seems to be okay with feeding the trolls.

How is the threat of being blocked feeding them?

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13 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

How is the threat of being blocked feeding them?

It shows that he's letting all this stuff get to him. He could have just blocked people and not posted that status. Makes him a target.

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31 minutes ago, CaptainRobo said:

So, someone drew Amy and Tails in movie style. Actually not looked too bad. I’m ok with this., if this was the design.:

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Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/ASnowflakeOwl/status/1073728270124834816

Also, SquigglyDigg drew Shadow in movie style.:

 

These look really great and make me excited to see more of the supporting characters. Sonic's face is not grotesque. It's going to be closer to that leaked poster. What I like the early design was how expressive the face is. Remember, Schwartz did mocap so it makes sense that his face be more emotive.

 

Speaking of grotesque:

 

This movie is spawning some terrifying art 

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Any argument postulating that the design is okay produced from anecdotes of non-fans not being excessively bothered by it seems ill-fated to me. You would think a movie being produced based off an IP (especially such a large and prosperous one as Sonic the Hedgehog) would have a prime motive to appeal to fans of the IP to fill seats. Just about everything we know of this film is pretty much Sonic fan repellent. 

This isn't a film reviving a brand that has been dead for decades and modernizing it where this sort of choice would be halfway excusable, this is an IP that has been consistently making content since 1991. 

This series never ceases to make the masses collectively drop their jaws in amazement and disgust. I'm starting to wonder if Sonic the Hedgehog was very quietly taken over by a university research group in the mid-2000s as a method of conducting odd social experiments. 

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1 hour ago, CaptainRobo said:

So, someone drew Amy and Tails in movie style. Actually not looked too bad. I’m ok with this., if this was the design.:

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Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/ASnowflakeOwl/status/1073728270124834816

Also, SquigglyDigg drew Shadow in movie style.:

 

This looks way too good and it makes me even more sad that it won't look like that.

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3 minutes ago, Dejimon11 said:

So you're just going of what other people have said and not your own eyes? 

Do other people not have eyes as well? They said his face is more on the cutee side. One of them even said they want a Sonic plushie 

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18 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

Do other people not have eyes as well? They said his face is more on the cutee side. One of them even said they want a Sonic plushie 

If another person told you that a dog was a cat, would you believe them because that's what they said and they have their own eyes?

There's been literal claims that Sonic's design is nothing short of the game's design only with fur and that's very obviously not the case when we can see from the two posters we do have that his proportions are out of whack and there's several details that look nothing with what the comparison piece was. In short, until the clip surfaces or we see a trailer, there's no reason whatsoever to take their word for it.

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2 hours ago, CaptainRobo said:

So, someone drew Amy and Tails in movie style. Actually not looked too bad. I’m ok with this., if this was the design.:

*snip*

Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/ASnowflakeOwl/status/1073728270124834816

Also, SquigglyDigg drew Shadow in movie style.:

*snip*

These at least don't look terrible, due to ditching the realistic muscles and actually being cartoons rather than trying to make Sonic "real". But I think they really highlight how the movie's design loses a lot of what makes Sonic's design stand out from a lot of other cartoon animals. It's got a bit of a Disney feel to it (or maybe some knockoff Disney-like cartoon), soft, organic, maybe not quite as blobby but otherwise in a similar vein. But Sonic's official design, whether we're talking classic or modern, is very sharp and clean, minimalistic even, mostly just a few simple shapes assembled into a recognizable form.

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51 minutes ago, Ryannumber1Santa said:

If another person told you that a dog was a cat, would you believe them because that's what they said and they have their own eyes?

There's been literal claims that Sonic's design is nothing short of the game's design only with fur and that's very obviously not the case when we can see from the two posters we do have that his proportions are out of whack and there's several details that look nothing with what the comparison piece was. In short, until the clip surfaces or we see a trailer, there's no reason whatsoever to take their word for it.

As I said before, what doesn't look like the game design to us (which the design very much does resemble the game design. At least based on basic traits) may look like the game to them. They aren't Sonic fans. I think the thing you are forgetting is the fact that they had a close-up on Sonic's face and what they said about it was that it was cartoony/Caricaturized and cute. And the concept design just so happens to fit the description they gave. So the final version probably won't be that far off

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20 hours ago, Adamis said:

Again, show me how Dragon Ball has been damaged by Evolution. Show me how the Garfield brand has been damaged by the mediocre live movies. Same with ATLA, Resident Evil, and many others. 

For the sake of of your argument, I’ll say sure; those examples haven’t been affected much by those projects. But —as I’m repeating myself for the third time now— not every franchise gets to shake off infamous projects like that unscathed, even if they do get new products. New projects aren’t the end-all to a franchise’s health and success. To bring up some examples of my own:

Bubsy got his first game in 24 years after the 3D game in the 1990s. He has another game coming up. Would you say that is a series that’s absolutely fine? The series is still seen as an absolute joke, unless you actually want to argue that people actually take Bubsy as a series seriously nowadays.

What about the DCEU? Sure, most of their films still made money and an Aquaman film is about to be released. But are people looking at it as a genuine rival to Marvel’s superhero films as WB has been pushing it to be? Did the last film (Justice League) underperform at the box office for virtually no reason?

Metroid as a series was thought to be a series as good as dead until Samus Returns and Prime 4 were announced last year. Even though the last game was Federation Force from 2016. Why would that be the case?

Even before the recent/last game in 2015 in Pro Skater 5; the Tony Hawk series was largely considered dead in the water. It was still being given new games up until that point; but could anyone really say it was still as big as it used to be back in the late 1990s and early 2000s?

20 hours ago, Adamis said:

I was talking about myself. If you're offended by that, that's not my problem.

Because you were acting as if I was supporting the trash we were getting. Like I said, putting words in my mouth. Re-read your post.

I never stated any of that. 

Except you weren’t just referring to yourself in that comment. It’s really obvious you weren’t commenting strictly about yourself with the way you phrased that original reply. Are you deliberately pretending to not notice key points of my posts?

Meanwhile, I’m going to outright disagree that you haven’t said the series getting more missteps was a good thing. Maybe that wasn’t your intent but given your entire argument so far has been hand waving them as inconsequential, it certainly seems that way. Especially since you said the above after blowing off people responding negatively to the film poster as in hysterics.

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Well my poll didn't do as good as I'd hoped. But let's pretend for a second that this poll represents everyone's (not just 32) views for Sonic's film design in the 4 categories. Then that would mean most people and fans are waiting for the trailer to decide or think it's terrible. Now undecided could be counted into as just that undecided and mixed, but it could also be somewhat counted into the Waiting for trailer category.

Either way, I'll give the film a chance provided I like both Sonic and Eggman (or Robotnik's) designs.

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