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Just now, Tarnish said:

What's another black sheep for this franchise? It can join the evergrowing flock.

Basically this. A grand majority of people expect this movie to be crap because 1) It's a video game movie, and 9/10 of those suck, and 2) It's Sonic, being done by people in this day and age that clearly don't understand anything about the character.

Just another addition to the ever growing pile of crap. And it's a big pile with a lot of room for more.

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21 minutes ago, Tara said:

Thinking there will be a montage of Sonic showing off his powers by traveling the world really fast.

It sounds like the kind of predictable thing they'd do for humor.

Well, that seem possible. There was a scene of Sonic getting chased by Eggman's drones in Egypt.:

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Maybe, Sonic is going on a world tour? Lol.

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4 minutes ago, Tara said:

Thinking there will be a montage of Sonic showing off his powers by traveling the world really fast.

It sounds like the kind of predictable thing they'd do for humor.

I like how golden rings as portals fits perfectly in the real world, but cartoonish hedgehogs? THAT'S GOING TOO FAR!!

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2 minutes ago, Tarnish said:

What's another black sheep for this franchise? It can join the evergrowing flock.

06 actually had potential to be good and the game was rushed to release for its deadline. And was the worst thing in the franchise as a result.

Other games were doomed from the start like Forces for example. 

Calling the film a black sheep so early is just plain laughable.

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6 minutes ago, Tara said:

It sounds like the kind of predictable thing they'd do for humor.

They run fast and then windy things happen.

It's the good jokes, because if he just runs...that's not funny.

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1 minute ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

Calling the film a black sheep so early is just plain laughable.

I mean, what else is there to call it? It's such a radical departure from everything anyone ever knew about the character or the series.

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6 minutes ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

06 actually had potential to be good and the game was rushed to release for its deadline. And was the worst thing in the franchise as a result.

Eh, even if the game wasn't a bug ridden mess that has loading screens interrupted by a few stages and cutscenes, that wouldn't have changed:
- Realistic humans next to Sonic characters are just off putting and bizarre
- Stage designs were pretty lame
- Super bland hub worlds
- Story was a convoluted mess

6 minutes ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

Other games were doomed from the start like Forces for example. 

Why was it doomed from the start? I can imagine ways I actually would have liked that game.

6 minutes ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

Calling the film a black sheep so early is just plain laughable.

Well it's definitely not proving anybody wrong at this stage.

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1 minute ago, Tarnish said:

Why was it doomed from the start? I could imagene ways I actually would have liked that game.

The concept of bring classic Sonic back as marketing strategy and not having him have any plot importance in the first place was really dumb. 

The premise was decent, but with Graff and Pontac writing it. It was destined to be cheese-ofied.

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1 minute ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

The premise was decent, but with Graff and Pontac writing it. It was destined to be cheese-ofied. 

Old school anime translations...at worst.

And at their worst.

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8 minutes ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

The concept of bring classic Sonic back as marketing strategy and not having him have any plot importance in the first place was really dumb. 

The premise was decent, but with Graff and Pontac writing it. It was destined to be cheese-ofied.

To be honest, any Sonic game with the boost formula is doomed in my eyes.

Boost + Sonic Team's Broken 2D PhysicsTM is a sure way to make  me lose all interest in a game.

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You know, from what we seen there is 85% chance there is no Tails, Knuckles, etc in this movie (or maybe they'll have 5 minute cameo). Which obviously sucks when Detective Pikachu will have dozens of his  mates.

BUT!!! If I was in charge and was allowed to pick one character with say 8 minutes of screen time, I know who I would put.

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image.png.cd9a875479cd9ae387beee5ef50b5564.png Imagine movie-graphics Big sitting in someones living room and trying to fish froggy out of aquarium.

Honestly, that could potentially make the whole movie worth it.

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To my knowledge they really want to establish Movie Sonic as its own pillar alongside Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic. I don't imagine we'll see anyone but Sonic and Robotnik for this because gotta sequel bait somehow.

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15 minutes ago, MetalSkulkBane said:

You know, from what we seen there is 85% chance there is no Tails, Knuckles, etc in this movie (or maybe they'll have 5 minute cameo).

If this is an origin story, doesn't that mean Sonic hasn't even met them yet?

Dunno why I assume this movie is trying to follow the game logics...

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3 minutes ago, Tarnish said:

If this is an origin story, doesn't that mean Sonic hasn't even met them yet?

Dunno why I assume this movie is trying to follow the game logics...

Sonic has lived on Earth his whole life, so no.

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1 minute ago, Razule said:

Sonic has lived on Earth his whole life, so no.

Lives on Earth his whole life hiding, only one with the knowledge of a threat to the planet that only he can save...okay.

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13 minutes ago, DreamSaturn said:

To my knowledge they really want to establish Movie Sonic as its own pillar alongside Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic.

Where'd you get this from?

And...why would they want to do that?

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Just now, DreamSaturn said:

http://www.tssznews.com/2019/03/04/live-action-sonic-film-design-revealed/

The why is simple - because this was a big investment for them and they'd like to see as many returns as possible.

It's not a big investment for SEGA though, is it? They licensed the use of Sonic in a Paramount-produced film. SEGA didn't invest in this — they got paid to let someone make it.

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12 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Oh, they're looking to cause yet another dividing faction...apparently.

As if there just wasn't enough problems with Sonic boy already.

 

I always hated the "We need a separate version for this, another one for that, etc." approach. No real need for it.

It actually gets in the way of character development in a way. Since 'classic Sonic' is now not his younger self, but an alternate dimension version..he didn't evolve from one stage to the other if all of them can just co-exist now.

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On 5/1/2019 at 5:48 PM, KHCast said:

This argument when applied to Sonic though is pretty weak and based on a guess, not a definite proof. Sure I can see the point made with “progressive” films, bigots and assholes are gonna in mass attack them, I get that, however the Sonic film isn’t from the look of it, looking to be “progressive” in any way. It just looks bad.  bringing it up in the first place just feels pointless since the two situations aren’t really comparable outside someone trying to use the ghostbusters film as a reason people MIGHT in mass be troll hating the movie 

Are people seriously hating on this movie because it's "progressive?" 🤦‍♂️

On 5/1/2019 at 6:01 PM, Tornado said:

Paramount isn't spending the stupid money Sony spent on that movie, but 90 million is a lot more money then the developers of Goat Simulator had.

What in the world? 

On 5/1/2019 at 6:30 PM, CaptainRobo said:

Posting the list of movies that are releasing this November. 

November 1 

Arctic Justice: Thunder Squad
Motherless Brooklyn
Terminator: Dark Fate (Directed by Tim Miller who is the executive producer of the Sonic movie)

November 8 (Friday)

Doctor Sleep
Last Christmas
Midway
Sonic The Hedgehog

November 15 

Charlie's Angels
Ford v. Ferrari
The Good Liar

November 22 

A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Frozen 2
Playmobil: The Movie
Rhythm Section

November 27 

Knives Out
Queen & Slim

 

 

Wow, you are from Australia? I always thought you are from Greece?  Damn, that sucks, that your country is getting the movie a little late. Anyway, I'm glad and happy that you like the movie. I'm also excited for the movie as well. Good luck trying to achieve that. I hope you can do this. Traveling can be risky and expensive.

If anybody is curious, here are all the release dates for all of the countries so far. Singapore is added to the list.:

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Portugal 7 November 2019  
Russia 7 November 2019  
Singapore 7 November 2019  
Slovakia 7 November 2019  
Canada 8 November 2019  
Turkey 8 November 2019  
USA 8 November 2019  
Brazil 14 November 2019  
Bulgaria 15 November 2019  
Mexico 15 November 2019  
Romania 15 November 2019  
Denmark 21 November 2019  
Italy 21 November 2019  
Sweden 22 November 2019  
Australia 28 November 2019  
Hong Kong 28 November 2019  
Israel 28 November 2019  
Norway 29 November 2019  
Belgium 17 December 2019  
Germany 19 December 2019  
UK 26 December 2019  
Spain 27 December 2019  
Hungary 2 January 2020  
Netherlands 30 January 2020  
France 5 February 2020  
Ireland 13 March 2020  
Japan 23 May 2020  
New Zealand 10 July 2020

 

I have no idea what over half of those things are.

But yeah, Frozen 2 may or may not be a contending problema.

On 5/1/2019 at 8:11 PM, CaptainRobo said:
Uh oh, this doesn't sound good.

Here is the Sonic fan film director's reaction to the trailer. He also hate it.:

 

Looks [even more] like another story about the movie business besmirching things.

On 5/1/2019 at 8:24 PM, Sonic Fan J said:

 Super strength doesn't require being turned on,

It's a sympathetic reflex.

On 5/1/2019 at 8:49 PM, Skull Leader said:

Perhaps movie makers should focus more on telling a story rather than pushing for diversity, which as a non-white Mexican, is an aspect that I could not care any less about... Unless this is something Hollywood does touse as human shields knowing very well who will be the first in line to defend their mediocre films.

And no, TLJ was terrible because it's director was more focused on subverting expectations than on telling a story and building up on what JJ had established to the point that Episode IX is going to be damage control.

And just like there are people who gives flak to movies for being diverse, there are also equally dumb people who think that honest criticism equals bigotry against said diversity, which is why I detest both sides equally since the rest of the majority of sane, functionalpeople get trapped in the cross-fire of two very loud minorities.

...Huh.

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12 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Oh, they're looking to cause yet another dividing faction...apparently.

As if there just wasn't enough problems with Sonic boy already.

 

I mean it's not like a ton of other properties don't also do this. 

There's like at least six completely different Transformers continuities, to say nothing of how drastically different some Comic book movies and shows can be from the Comics that inspired them or hell just look at Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. 

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On 5/1/2019 at 9:42 PM, Blueknight V2.0 said:

So I made this post on Twitter. Well I wasn't going to post it here, but to give a better idea I will.

I just showed someone (who's not exactly a big Sonic fan like I am) the Sonic film trailer. Basically they said that. it doesn't look too bad, Sonic's legs look weird and looks better than R&C (this case, never played an R&C game). Huh? What?

Now I'm Not complaining about if someone likes or dislikes the Sonic Movie based on the trailer. But it's apparent this film "may" be pointed at newcomers rather than long time fans.

Well, yeah, essentially.

On 5/1/2019 at 11:22 PM, Mark_The_Dephiles said:

Actually the teeth didn't look as bad to me when you see the video actually in motion but yeah I definitely would have preferred sharp SA1 teeth to Ken Penders esc human teeth.  Also, they probably should have given him gloves.

Yeah, the teeth actually doesn't bother me. But the design overally is generally a mess.

On 5/2/2019 at 12:06 AM, Shadowlax said:

I believe the idea is that the kid character, is sonic. The character the children are supposed to identify with is sonic, he will be a wiley rascal trying to help occasionally messing things up and basically be the weird grimlin baby of the cop character. The cop character is supposed to be the ones that the adults taking their children to see the movie is supposed to identify with. Considering this is the first film ( and hopefully the only film ) in this series and it primary takes place in the human world they problably aren't gonna introduce a concept so crazy that you need a stand in character for the kids. And the adults in this scenario are assumed to be cognizant enough to get " he cam from another world, ring portal, eggman bad sonic fast " not only are they relying on adults being able to get fairly simple plot points but folks nostalgic for sonic stuff is also an audience they are aiming for so they also have a character to identify with . Going so far as to put an actor who played a sonic character in a cartoon apparently, in the movie and that probably wont be the only one. I suspect a jaleel white cameo.

Now i'm not saying this is good or bad. Personally I find this film to be the most bizarre thing I have seen in quite sometime. At least the trailer. So many failures had to occur for it to look as bad as it does, and it looks so bad. 

But there is semblance of logic of what they were trying to do, its just done poorly and probably didn't need to be done at all

That is more or less how it seems.

On 5/2/2019 at 12:21 AM, Lord-Dreamerz said:

I agree with that statement actually. However it isn't that Sonic doesn't sell to kids, it is that Sonic doesn't sell to kids nearly as much as it used to out of not being a super popular modern freshly made franchise like it used to be. Sonic appeals more to teens and young adults these days, which is not a strange result from certain older franchises as their fan-bases got older and something about them failing to connect to new audiences. Sonic is still a greatly well known series with a big fan-base... but I'm not convinced much of the fan-base are kids anymore. Anyways that is just my opinion/theory on it.

Misguided or not I can understand and see why the movie team thought targeting older people was a good idea as many people who grew up with Sonic in the 90s and early 2000s are adults now and might make up for the bulk of the people who'll go see the movie... However either way they did not do a good job at what they were trying to do... Even if they were actually aiming this movie at adults... the thing is that means keeping Sonic true to his game-self and that fantasy world they grew up with is even more important for adults who have far more premade expectations then certain kids who never seen Sonic before. And on the other side of the coin kids also would probably enjoy something more wacky, cute and cartoony instead of what this movie is going for.

What does that say about the games between 06 and Forces?

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