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2 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

Investors won't be happy. Especially if the new design is much more appealing to kids. The same thing had to happen to Megatron when they changed his design. Hasbro had to change the toys and even then, some merchandise still has the old design. 

 

Also, all pre-rendered commercials and advertisements will have to be changed too. They all can't have a completely different look to what's in the movie. The shoes being changed will also change the deal they have with Puma considering the former are paying Paramount to have their product in the movie 

I hadn't considered commercials. They might make changes there. I don't think the shoes will change though. They look fine, IMO.

We're not going to get a complete redesign anyway. I really doubt they are going to start off from scratch. We don't know the extent of these 'changes' Jeff promised. They might just change the eyes and leave everything else untouched. They might just give him.apair of gloves. They might just make his arms the correct color. The changes will be minimal, imo.

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Ok this might sound odd but hear me out. I gotta say if nothing else it is interesting to see somebody take on the idea of “What if Sonic was real and what would he look like as a real life anthro?”  I think that is something many Sonic fans have thought about at least once in their life even if the obvious answer to that question is that most anthro characters in general probably would not look greatly appealing if they were real, and it would be something we would have to get used over time.

Of course there is no question that a high budget movie shouldn’t ever had tried a clearly risky curious idea and make it happen. Before anybody gets confused… I am not remotely saying Sonic’s design is good on the movie… but I do think it is interesting to see artists try to portray him as a more realistic anthro instead of a cartoon design… I’ve seen enough anthro art of Sonic online already so the idea alone doesn’t upset me… even if I do not think such a idea should ever be done for a serious official product. Regardless no matter what I agree and prefer for Sonic to stay a cartoon and that I vastly prefer cartoon/anime styles in general.

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8 minutes ago, DreamSaturn said:

It still boggles the mind how they've known that people hate the design so much for months now and only now decide that something must be done. I guess the problem got so bad they couldn't just ignore it anymore? I can't see how they couldn't have known until the trailer dropped.

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Some people are speculating that the trailer was trolling us with a fake design in order to garner lots of attention online, so they can promise a 'redesign' and win fans over with the 'real' look.

I doubt it myself, but that 'meow?' scene? Come on. That wasn't an accident. No sane individual looked at that and thought it looked okay and was something the fans would like.

And you gotta admit, this movie got a LOT more attention in the public eye than it would have gotten had Sonic simply looked accurate to the games. The memes are what shot that thing to #1 on trending.

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1 minute ago, Myst said:

Some people are speculating that the trailer was trolling us with a fake design in order to garner lots of attention online, so they can promise a 'redesign' and win fans over with the 'real' look.

I doubt it myself, but that 'meow?' scene? Come on. That wasn't an accident. No sane individual looked at that and thought it looked okay and was something the fans would like.

Yeah, I'm doubting that "all just a stunt" theory myself, too. There's no way they would spend millions on the art, animation, promotional material and merchandise, all just for that to be an elaborate trick. That doesn't make sense.

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5 minutes ago, Lord-Dreamerz said:

Ok this might sound odd but hear me out. I gotta say if nothing else it is interesting to see somebody take on the idea of “What if Sonic was real and what would he look like as a real life anthro?”  I think that is something many Sonic fans have thought about at least once in their life even if the obvious answer to that question is that most anthro characters in general probably would not look greatly appealing if they were real, and it would be something we would have to get used over time.

Of course there is no question that a high budget movie shouldn’t ever had tried a clearly risky curious idea and make it happen. Before anybody gets confused… I am not remotely saying Sonic’s design is good on the movie… but I do think it is interesting to see artists try to portray him as a more realistic anthro instead of a cartoon design… I’ve seen enough anthro art of Sonic online already so the idea alone doesn’t upset me… even if I do not think such a idea should ever be done for a serious official product. Regardless no matter what I agree and prefer for Sonic to stay a cartoon and that I vastly prefer cartoon/anime styles in general.

Realistically speaking...Sonic would look exactly how he does in the games and that in itself would be weird and gross.

Maybe some people wouldn't care and think he looks cool or cute.

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2 minutes ago, Myst said:

I hadn't considered commercials. They might make changes there. I don't think the shoes will change though. They look fine, IMO.

We're not going to get a complete redesign anyway. I really doubt they are going to start off from scratch. We don't know the extent of these 'changes' Jeff promised. They might just change the eyes and leave everything else untouched. They might just give him.apair of gloves. They might just make his arms the correct color. The changes will be minimal, imo.

I mean, there are Nike shoes that resemble the classic Michael Jackson/Buckle shoes that Sonic usually has and they considered an agreement with Nike early on

 

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Changing the color of the arms will be pretty easy considering they don't have to alter the rig. But they should add gloves. If they don't want the cartoon gloves, they could just give him custom Puma pro gloves i.e

 

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And Sonic drifts so it makes sense that he'd want to protect his hands. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Realistically speaking...Sonic would look exactly how he does in the games

Haha no he wouldn't. If he was a real anthro he wouldn't look like a noodle limb stylistic cartoon character. Which is exactly why they shouldn't had tried making him real nor made this a live action movie because it changes far to much and ruins the series iconic imagery.

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1 minute ago, Lord-Dreamerz said:

Haha no he wouldn't. If he was a real anthro he wouldn't look like a noodle limb stylistic cartoon character. Which is exactly why they shouldn't had tried making him real nor made this a live action movie because it changes far to much.

I'm not treating him as some real life Earth animal, just like the movie...he's an alien or whatever.

Otherwise he doesn't exist.

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41 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Realistically speaking...Sonic would look exactly how he does in the games and that in itself would be weird and gross.

Maybe some people wouldn't care and think he looks cool or cute.

I think his movie-self is actually a logical realistic transition.

Hear me out: Eggman, a human, has noodle limbs. So Sonic's design is a result of the art-style, not his biology. So, in-universe, Sonic is a short, blue man with a vaguely hedgehog head. His movie design is the closest approximation to what the people of Sonic's World and Human World see everyday.

..of course, actually making such a thing was a terrible idea, but still. Imagine if Detective Pikachu looked more like an actual rat than a fluffy Pikachu.

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So, design arguments aside, I have a question about this movie that I haven't really seen get brought up.

Now then, this film is supposedly an origin story detailing how Sonic and Eggman met as well as the antagonism between them (of course just capturing animals and sticking them in machines as hostages or batteries really kind of covers Sonic's end). But there is one major problem that is just really bugging me about everything presented so far; I don't see Eggman's world domination obsession. All I've been presented with even with the stinger is his obsession with Sonic and the strange energy Sonic has. In fact, being someone that the military is only unhappy working with due his ego does the complete opposite of sell me the idea that he wants to rule the world and is so narcissistic that every thing he builds he has to slap his face on somewhere. Honestly, for as boring as the movie Eggman starts his introduction in the trailer would have been so much better even without his name if as the truck pulled into the scene and the cinematography panned to the opening side panel a logo with his face had been lingered on for just a moment. It would have done so much.

On other matters, I was thinking about the whole alien hedgehog, deep human relationship, and military involvement similarities with Shadow 05 and 06 with Blur Studio and Tim Miller and Jeff Fowler working on it and realize that I blame those games for this mess even more so then I thought. As has been pointed out by numerous users already you had realistic humans next to Sonic in those games and it was jarring in most cases, but what if Tim Miller and Jeff Fowler felt the same way? That got me thinking was this realistic take on Sonic born from a desire then to make Sonic look like he belonged next to humans instead of having the existing contrast played straight? He was rather emphatic in his IGN interview about how it was always going to be what it was from the get go and not a Pixar-esque character which reads to me looking at it now as a deep seated desire to do Sonic next to people "right". Of course regardless on any truth in my hypotheticals and wonderings, this design has proven at the very least even more so than Shadow 05 and 06 that it wasn't Sonic that needed to change, but everything else so that way it belongs next to Sonic. He has his identity and style, so everything else just needs to be made to match it. Changing him to match everything else is the wrong direction in my opinion.

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1 hour ago, Sonic Fan J said:

But there is one major problem that is just really bugging me about everything presented so far; I don't see Eggman's world domination obsession.

 

Unless the various leaks have shed some light onto this, we still don't know exactly what Sonic is attempting to save the world from. If the trailer is anything to go by, he is the biggest threat to the planet so far, with all that unchecked energy from running about.

In the car scene, he is convinced he is saving the world from something, but there isn't much of a clue as to what that is just yet. Eggy seems more concerned with dissecting Sonic that world conquering - but perhaps those two are connected too. Maybe he wants to use the energy to make "Chaos Drives" for some next generation robos or something.

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Yeah, it's kind of a case of weird marketing again. The trailer really didn't do a good job of setting up the premise of the movie and was really just a mishmash of scenes that didn't really establish any hints of goals of Sonic, Tom, or Eggman. It's like I've been saying for a while that this movie really seems to not know what it wants to be, that or the marketing team really has no idea how to sell what they have. It's really such a head scratching mess to me.

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14 minutes ago, Sega DogTagz said:

Unless the various leaks have shed some light onto this, we still don't know exactly what Sonic is attempting to save the world from. If the trailer is anything to go by, he is the biggest threat to the planet so far, with all that unchecked energy from running about.

It was implied in the leaks:

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There is a threat that causes Sonic to escape from his world to Earth when he was a kid.

My guess is the threat that Sonic ran away from follows him to Earth at some point. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Indigo Rush said:

It was implied in the leaks:

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There is a threat that causes Sonic to escape from his world to Earth when he was a kid.

My guess is the threat that Sonic ran away from follows him to Earth at some point. 

 

Spoiler

Meaning that Eggman is going to be upstaged in the final act just like in the games if true. Well at least they got that accurate I guess.

 

2 minutes ago, Blueknight V2.0 said:

ATTENTION EVERYONE! ANOTHER FULL CGI MYSTERY CHARACTER CONFIRMED!

But why not just went ahead an showed that character in the trailer, so this character's redesign would possibly line up with Sonic's?

Well, it probably would have helped tie Sonic into the setting by having another CG character for him to match up with him, but again it just leaves me baffled by the film's marketing approach.

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It is rather upsetting to me personally that they find a role for a rapper that the target audience sure doesn't know, let alone or care about, but couldn't even contact Yuji Naka, one of three men who are pretty much the only reason this franchise ever got off the ground, for a small cameo.

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17 minutes ago, Indigo Rush said:

This would imply that Knuckles is voiced by Riff Raff...

 

 

...I need to lie down.

And its probably all for a reference of Knuckles SA1 theme with "not chuckle" line involved.

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28 minutes ago, AdventChild said:

And its probably all for a reference of Knuckles SA1 theme with "not chuckle" line involved.

Wasn't even thinking of that but, yeah, he's definitely Knuckles then

Maybe Knuckles will have conjointed fingers and white hands to create the boxing glove effect.

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