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On 6/9/2019 at 2:02 AM, shdowhunt60 said:

So I guess we know where Sonic's movie shoes come from I guess.

Well, is that a problem? I mean, people were/are angry for Sonic to have puma when he already wore real-life Soap shoes in SA1.

So, was there any "hate/dislike" for soap shoes instead of red sneakers? That there was a real-life ad in the game everybody loves? And aren't Sonic's shoes the generic looking ones? It's just red with a white strap and some buckle. The design was made simple for the game purpose and that works. And if Sonic is living on Earth for a few years at the beginning of the movie, and broke his original shoes, it makes sense he has to get some that fit him. So, he goes after human shoes since he no longer can access his old shops (if there are any ;-)). Also, it means he had grown up, so he can't use his old shoes anyway 😉 That means we may see him with his old shoes since there should be some flashback scene since Baby Sonic figure seems to be at work 🙂

9 hours ago, Dr Ryan said:

Did anyone see this fuck-ugly movie fan design that Yuki Naka shared earlier?

Where as the artist is clearly extremely talented at working with CG well...

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Vdkl5Z

Not sure if this is allowed on this thread as it's technically just fan work so please delete if I've committed a forum sin.

It's just shown me that the movie design could have been worse!

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Actually, I saw this too, and it seems some people really thought this is official. It kinda has everything Movie Sonic has and is hated for - small eyes, weird/creepy face, this one is actually wearing some sort of all-body-suit, the shoes aren't "iconic" (but the sole is pretty interesting, and the shoes are actually equipped with some "function"), the ears are human-placed and not exactly hedgehog-pointy, and the body is more to a human side.

Well, I can say I don't like it, but I don't hate it. However, the concept itself is nice. The more I look at it, the more I see it can work, but not probably as Sonic, but more like a different creature. Or it can pass as Sonic on a more realistic-humanoid side for a story that isn't for kids. So why not? After all, this is a static picture, and we know that hardly shows it in an action 😄  The author also wrote a blog entry about his design and choice. I think it represents any type of redesign, so everybody can learn from it a bit 😉 The author also realized Movie Sonic's design hardly deserves such hatred it got during his process.

TLDR: It may not be my cup of tea, but I can see this Sonic growing on me with time 😉

5 hours ago, DabigRG said:

What circulated over the weekend?

I don't know, but I think it could be the picture mentioned above 😉

 

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1 hour ago, Witto150 said:

😄😉The author also realized Movie Sonic's design hardly deserves such hatred it got during his process.

We're all wrong about something, sometimes.

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3 hours ago, Witto150 said:

Well, is that a problem? I mean, people were/are angry for Sonic to have puma when he already wore real-life Soap shoes in SA1.

So, was there any "hate/dislike" for soap shoes instead of red sneakers? That there was a real-life ad in the game everybody loves? And aren't Sonic's shoes the generic looking ones? It's just red with a white strap and some buckle. The design was made simple for the game purpose and that works. And if Sonic is living on Earth for a few years at the beginning of the movie, and broke his original shoes, it makes sense he has to get some that fit him. So, he goes after human shoes since he no longer can access his old shops (if there are any ;-)). Also, it means he had grown up, so he can't use his old shoes anyway 😉 That means we may see him with his old shoes since there should be some flashback scene since Baby Sonic figure seems to be at work 🙂

Actually, I saw this too, and it seems some people really thought this is official. It kinda has everything Movie Sonic has and is hated for - small eyes, weird/creepy face, this one is actually wearing some sort of all-body-suit, the shoes aren't "iconic" (but the sole is pretty interesting, and the shoes are actually equipped with some "function"), the ears are human-placed and not exactly hedgehog-pointy, and the body is more to a human side.

Well, I can say I don't like it, but I don't hate it. However, the concept itself is nice. The more I look at it, the more I see it can work, but not probably as Sonic, but more like a different creature. Or it can pass as Sonic on a more realistic-humanoid side for a story that isn't for kids. So why not? After all, this is a static picture, and we know that hardly shows it in an action 😄  The author also wrote a blog entry about his design and choice. I think it represents any type of redesign, so everybody can learn from it a bit 😉 The author also realized Movie Sonic's design hardly deserves such hatred it got during his process.

TLDR: It may not be my cup of tea, but I can see this Sonic growing on me with time 😉

I don't know, but I think it could be the picture mentioned above 😉

 

It was the picture above. At least one news site reported that picture as the official change, and the article showed up in my Google feed.

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22 hours ago, DabigRG said:

What circulated over the weekend?

Heh. Gotta appreciate little stuff like that.

That fan redesign on the last page. That look would be well-suited to an R-rated adaptation aimed at adults 

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1 minute ago, PeterPancake said:

That fan redesign on the last page. That look would be well-suited to an R-rated adaptation aimed at adults 

Oh, of course.

My brother actually sent me that, alongside a comment of just cancel the movie already.

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21 hours ago, PeterPancake said:

That fan redesign on the last page. That look would be well-suited to an R-rated adaptation aimed at adults 

Hell no it wouldn't! I'm 34 and that shit is nightmare fuel! 😛

Talented guy with a great portfolio, but that design would never appeal to anyone.

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34 minutes ago, Dr Ryan said:

Hell no it wouldn't! I'm 34 and that shit is nightmare fuel! 😛

Talented guy with a great portfolio, but that design would never appeal to anyone.

Never say never.

 

AhahahaHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Now. NOW I CAN TURN ON MY WII-U and wait for my gamepad to charge AND THEN PLAY LOST WORLD A parody of the original promo for the Deadly Six using the six redesigns I made up for them for my dumb TUZ project. YEAH....

(Criminy Jicket!)

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1 hour ago, Dr Ryan said:

Hell no it wouldn't! I'm 34 and that shit is nightmare fuel! 😛

Talented guy with a great portfolio, but that design would never appeal to anyone.

What I meant was a Nolan-esque darker take, like the one that was rumored back in 2013. If they wanted a much more grim take on Sonic where they lean into the whole alien thing a lot more with R-Rated violence. 

 

Like imagine seeing a gruesome 

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8 minutes ago, Polkadi~♪ said:

I'd rather Sonic characters looked more like Sonic, and less like rejected demons from DOOM...

I know, that's beyond nightmare fuel there.

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3 minutes ago, Polkadi~♪ said:

Oh no, oh no, it's just a general DOOM thing, but this is getting off-topic.

I know, I looked it up.

BGM might have been more apropos.

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37 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

I know, I looked it up.

BGM might have been more apropos.

The song is just named after the thing. Came from an old DOOM comic, and became a central point of focus in the franchise.

 

On a different note, how in the actual goddamn heck did people think that fan-design from earlier would be Sonic's new design? I knew it was fake from the moment I laid eyes on it, but others were super quick to panic.

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28 minutes ago, Polkadi~♪ said:

On a different note, how in the actually goddamn heck did people think that fan-design from earlier would be Sonic's new design? I knew it was fake from the moment I laid eyes on it, but others were super quick to panic.

Ease of hysteria or whatever.

Nevermind that it's too tall to feasibly replace what we saw in the trailers.

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Unpopular opinion: I'm excited about Sonic Movie ❤️ If you are too and dislike all the hatred around it, check many awesome posts at Tumblr.

The search engine won't show you all posts, but the mentioned blogs have the positivity covered with Movie-Sonic-positivity and Movie-Robotnik-positivity taking the lead 🙂 You will find fanarts, headcanons, funny jokes, theories, and easter eggs they discovered 😄 There are also comic-like fanarts and they are top-notch ❤️

 

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2 hours ago, Witto150 said:

Unpopular opinion: I'm excited about Sonic Movie ❤️ If you are too and dislike all the hatred around it, check many awesome posts at Tumblr.

The search engine won't show you all posts, but the mentioned blogs have the positivity covered with Movie-Sonic-positivity and Movie-Robotnik-positivity taking the lead 🙂 You will find fanarts, headcanons, funny jokes, theories, and easter eggs they discovered 😄 There are also comic-like fanarts and they are top-notch ❤️

 

I'm actually excited for the movie too, and a lot more optimistic about it, and I'll even admit I feel like people are overreacting heavily and that this film will more than likely not be anywhere near as bad as everyone's expecting it to be,

But if you're over emphasizing the word "positive/positivity" and saying that you "dislike all the hatred", that's usually a sign of not handling constructive criticism and opposite opinions.

This is why, even with liking the direction of this film despite the design, I think the constant positivity vs. negativity argument on this thread is still stupid.

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TL :DR - Please, see the movie for what it is and judge based on the whole story 😉

6 minutes ago, Gamecuber64 said:

But if you're over emphasizing the word "positive/positivity" and saying that you "dislike all the hatred", that's usually a sign of not handling constructive criticism and opposite opinions.

I dislike hatred because it is mostly just hatred and not constructive criticism. If most reactions you see are from - Burn it! I need to bleach my brain! It's a nightmare fuel! and co - it's hard to think that is criticism. It's just like you said - overreacting. And when people do that, they go and ignore anything and everything.

It's okay:

  • to not like the design, but providing real feedback
  • not wanting to see the movie
  • making a redesign that actually uses a movie base as part of studying the changes and how the character "flows"
  • making game-redesign

 

It's weird and smells fishy:

  • the movie is bad because I don't like the design/it doesn't reflect my vision. => "completely" ignore actors, VA's, CGI effects, pacing, action sequences and everything else like only one aspect makes the whole movie 😉
  • we are getting the re-design but will still hate the movie (what was the point then?)
  • the "FIXED" redesigns are porno-based or clearly insulting => It feels it's just for the sake of trolling or getting popularity
  • calling people by names for looking forward to the movie and forcing them to not go
  • sending hate mail to people wanting to enjoy it
  • saying "nobody likes it" without any proper data (numbers or something similar)
  • being weird out about plot-points/hints that were officially hinted/revealed weeks/months ago (I mean, I'm not that hard-core fan yet I feel I know more about the movie than actual fans XD)
  • talking bad about certain points without taking a minute to think about them (see missiles x gun scene) when there is "logic" (but yeah, movie logic can be weird, but not that nonsensical XD)
  • complaining about the changes despite they (will) make sense in the movie (see some theories about the Movie Sonic that are able to cast a light on them ;-))
  • The trailer has around 10 easter eggs yet fans yell - Show me the easter eggs, don't talk about them! (Strange, as I, who needs the egg to hit me, saw one well hidden - or it was just a coincidence, it's still worthy of being called easter egg ;-))

 

I don't force anybody to see the movie, I just say "see the movie before you say it sucks".

Since under "Movie Sonic" tag you will also find insulting and trolling, positivity was added 😉 to show "safe" posts as most of the negativity included excessive swearing.

15 minutes ago, Gamecuber64 said:

positivity vs. negativity argument on this thread is still stupid.

It's hard to understand, but easy to expect - When you see so much negativity, you will always try to find some positives. After all, nothing is black-and-white 😉 There are reports of people seeing the movie already in January/February yet those "haters" ignore them. Yeah, just because a bunch of people saw the movie doesn't mean it will be my cup of tea, but they provided some feedback and were okay with the movie (rating around 7/10 in most cases). Shouldn't it mean, the film isn't that bad?

If their reaction would be the opposite, I would still keep some positivity, but tried to get why it was bad (acting, plot-holes, boring action, too much cliché, no/minimal easter eggs) and so on. They would probably postpone the trailer and the release day to reshoot some parts if the initial feedback would be really bad 😉

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1 hour ago, Witto150 said:

If most reactions you see are from - Burn it! I need to bleach my brain! It's a nightmare fuel! and co - it's hard to think that is criticism. It's just like you said - overreacting.

You're saying that like a scenario where the designs they chose really are ugly beyond words and expectations is not possible. Sometimes reality is just cruel and shit really does happen.

And I would say this movie is a case of that.

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4 hours ago, Witto150 said:

It's weird and smells fishy:

  • the movie is bad because I don't like the design/it doesn't reflect my vision. => "completely" ignore actors, VA's, CGI effects, pacing, action sequences and everything else like only one aspect makes the whole movie 😉
  • we are getting the re-design but will still hate the movie (what was the point then?)
  • the "FIXED" redesigns are porno-based or clearly insulting => It feels it's just for the sake of trolling or getting popularity
  • calling people by names for looking forward to the movie and forcing them to not go
  • sending hate mail to people wanting to enjoy it
  • saying "nobody likes it" without any proper data (numbers or something similar)
  • being weird out about plot-points/hints that were officially hinted/revealed weeks/months ago (I mean, I'm not that hard-core fan yet I feel I know more about the movie than actual fans XD)
  • talking bad about certain points without taking a minute to think about them (see missiles x gun scene) when there is "logic" (but yeah, movie logic can be weird, but not that nonsensical XD)
  • complaining about the changes despite they (will) make sense in the movie (see some theories about the Movie Sonic that are able to cast a light on them ;-))
  • The trailer has around 10 easter eggs yet fans yell - Show me the easter eggs, don't talk about them! (Strange, as I, who needs the egg to hit me, saw one well hidden - or it was just a coincidence, it's still worthy of being called easter egg ;-))

We've discussed for over 400 pages why the movie looks like shit. If all you took away from it was "it doesn't fit our vision" and "we don't like the design", then that's your problem.

And yeah, even with the re-design, the movie will probably still suck. Sonic looking like a nightmare demon was only the most obvious problem, there's still the lackluster writing, the annoying and dumb human characters that will inevitably take up most of the plot and screen time, eye-rollingly terrible jokes (that are again the focus of the movie), and the list goes on. Fixing Sonic's design at this point is the equivalent to slapping a band-aid on a broken arm.

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4 hours ago, Witto150 said:

 

  • The trailer has around 10 easter eggs yet fans yell - Show me the easter eggs, don't talk about them! (Strange, as I, who needs the egg to hit me, saw one well hidden - or it was just a coincidence, it's still worthy of being called easter egg ;-))

I mean, let's not get carried away here.

https://www.gamecrate.com/sonic-hedgehog-movie-all-clues-and-easter-eggs-you-might-have-missed-trailer/22907

Quills! That's an easter egg, because reasons.

Ring portals! Easter egg.

Sonic may be an alien! So... easter egg?

Brown giant desert mushrooms! That's definitely an easter egg for Brown Mushroom Desert Zone.

Robotnik looks accurate in one scene! That's totally easter egg.

 

It's all totally overwhelming fanservice, right? And oh! I didn't even mention that Sonic's a blue talking hedgehog. That's gotta be worth, like, eight more easter eggs or something.

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13 minutes ago, BaronGrackle said:

I mean, let's not get carried away here.

https://www.gamecrate.com/sonic-hedgehog-movie-all-clues-and-easter-eggs-you-might-have-missed-trailer/22907

Quills! That's an easter egg, because reasons.

Ring portals! Easter egg.

Sonic may be an alien! So... easter egg?

Brown giant desert mushrooms! That's definitely an easter egg for Brown Mushroom Desert Zone.

Robotnik looks accurate in one scene! That's totally easter egg.

 

It's all totally overwhelming fanservice, right? And oh! I didn't even mention that Sonic's a blue talking hedgehog. That's gotta be worth, like, eight more easter eggs or something.

You forgot that the title of the movie is an easter egg that references the character, the franchise and the first game in the franchise as well. 3 EASTER EGGS  IN 1!!!

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