Jump to content
Badnik Mechanic

Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, PeterPancake said:

I'm not sure If that's going to work. I'm on Mobile because I'm using an android.

And yet SATAM is still considered one of the best Sonic tv shows of all time. If anything, this movie should take a few pages out of that awesome show. It WAS still Sonic but with REAL storytelling. If anything - it proves that the Brand doesn't fail when it strives to be more than subpar entertainment for 9 year old kids. Just like that show and the classic games - the main theme of this movie should be Nature. Vs Technology

 

Depends on who you talk to

Bunch of people who think that shows wack

There are bunch of younger folks like sonic x better

There are a bunch of even younger folks and some old folks who like sonic boom and don't even want sonic to remotely take itself seriously

Same with these new shorts

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, PeterPancake said:

I'm not sure If that's going to work. I'm on Mobile because I'm using an android.

Well then I'm not the person to ask, Sorry ^^

 

1 hour ago, PeterPancake said:

And yet SATAM is still considered one of the best Sonic tv shows of all time. If anything, this movie should take a few pages out of that awesome show. It WAS still Sonic but with REAL storytelling. If anything - it proves that the Brand doesn't fail when it strives to be more than subpar entertainment for 9 year old kids. Just like that show and the classic games - the main theme of this movie should be Nature. Vs Technology

 

The quality of the end result is mute. Anything can be good with proper execution and anything can be trash if the people behind it F everything up. Thats why I used the Sonic cartoons as an example. Using the same basic idea of Sonic (Blue Hedgehog, snarky, run fast, fight Eggman), you can end up with two totally different cartoons on both sides of the spectrum. For every SATAM, you can just as easily end up with an Underground.

You said any iteration that carries those basic principles would still be "Sonic". My point in bringing up the cartoons was that if you generalize what Sonic is down to that basic concept, the possibilities for what you, or some movie dev can develop within those guidelines is incredibly diverse. If those are the only rules to play by, then you can warp and twist "Sonic" into something it really isn't, which is exactly why Sega has been so overprotective of the IP as of late.

 

For the record, I also adored SATAM.

 

1 hour ago, PeterPancake said:

Sega Is dealing with unprecedented territory here. This nothing like the Big Red Button fiasco. Paramount has the official rights to the movie franchise - that means that NO other studio can make movies for the character besides them. Even Sega can not make Sonic films on their own because they sold the license to Paramount. (See Marvel Studios and the curious case of Fox making their own Marvel films) That means that Sega will not be the only ones who have a say on certain elements in the film, Paramount are the ones footing the bill for the movie. If Sega wants Sonic to look like he belongs in a cartoon show in a PG-13 film then certain Paramount execs, Fowler, Tim Miller and Studio producers can veto that decision. Sega probably gets final say but it's going to be a collaborative process with input from both sides. Otherwise it's going to become a tug of war like what happened between Lionsgate/Dean Israelite and Saban on the Power Rangers movie. The former wanted a darker movie with much more alien Ranger designs and the latter (the IP owner) wanted a much lighter film with more heroic designs. This power struggle shows in early concept art for the movie. But ultimately they came to a middle ground.. And since we know that Sony were the last ones to hold the license, you can almost guarantee they had a say in Sonic's design. Amy Pascal, Tom Rothman and Avi Arad are known throughout the industry to be meddlers who meddle with movie productions.

 

If Sega has the final say, then that's all there is too it. They may bend and twist, but they are not going to break. They are not going to compromise their vision of the IP. They don't do it in video games, they don't do it for cartoons and they wont do it for a movie.  If they have final authority, which they likely do, then they don't have to meet anyone at any middle ground. They are free to set the ground-rules and watch paramount work around their wishes.

Furthermore, Sega likes brand synergy. Having recently fractured the brand with all that Boom stuff, and the new-ish commitment to the classic branch, do you honestly think they are keen to introduce yet another Sonic to the marketplace? I doubt it.

Sonic Generations 2 is gonna be a night of 1000 sonics

 

1 hour ago, PeterPancake said:

Yes, I'd agree with you if this was a PG comedy film about Sonic & friends being "sucked out of the games" and dragged into the real world. There is a precedent for those types of movies (Space Jam, Looney Tunes, Roger Rabbit, Smurfs) But here's the thing, we got confirmation YEARS AGO that this movie would be nothing like those films. Doing a more straight forward PG-13 action film completely forfeits a whole new set of rules, it drastically changes the audience's perception of what constitutes for a suspension of disbelief. And rightfully so, because with that rating comes a certain expectation that a movie is going to deal with more adult themes, action and violence you would not see in a G-Rated kids flick. The only way it would not be laughed at by most people is if this movie is an adult comedy satire about Sonic being from video games; like it goes out of its way to point out the absurdity of a cartoon existing in real life. Like a PG-13 version of Roger Rabbit. Otherwise - trying to tell a story with any semblance of seriousness with cartoon characters will become the next big meme of 2019. I can just picture it now - the trailer trying to make Sonic who looks like he belongs in the Mickey mouse Christmas special,  look badass or do something really onlu to be met with laughter from the audience. It's very easy to imagine how wrong the movie can go if the movie looks like that Progressive commercial from 7 years ago and it tries to sell itself as a badass, edgy action film.

And I would argue that all of that would either be justified or missed in how it is presented. If the movie sold itself by trying to sell edgy themes and high drama, then it'll probably fall on its face. But if the tension is built organically, and the stakes are raised as a result of Sonic's time-tested conflict with Eggman, and not some emotional baggage brought on board by the acting talent, then there really isn't any reason why it would matter what Sonic looks like in order to present that story.

The better the writing, the better the plot, the more people will be engaged and willing to accept what they are seeing. As the end of the day, the guys on screen will be talking to an anthropomorphic Hedgehog. I don't think giving him extra fur and details really changes that too much. Its going to face the same hurdling in selling its plot.

 

1 hour ago, PeterPancake said:

Those Turtle designs did sell the GA on the movie because the first movie was a box-office smash. Fans were the ones up in arms about the changes. Contrary, doing a TMNT film where the Turtles look like cartoons- exactly as they did in the Fred Wolf show would have turned off anybody who wasn't a hardcore fan.

 

Your kidding yourself if your not willing to admit the designs of the turtles were not a point of contention. The near universal first reaction to anyone seeing them is "ew" while for fans is a combination of vomiting and internal screaming.

While even that didn't stop the movie from making money, it doesn't mean they should go back to that mistake well.

 

1 hour ago, PeterPancake said:

The only argument that can be countered for Marza is whether Sonic will look like a cartoon model or a more realistic interpretation of that design. And it's based on the assumption that Marza made Sonic look like he doesn't fit in a real world environment in their proof if concept tests. Blur is the one who should be handling the bulk of animation. Sega may want Marza but Fowler may want Blur who ironically has experience with Sonic in the past.

 

Whatever exp Blur has with Sonic will pale in comparison to Marza, so I woudn't exactly tout that as a mark on their belts.

And my assumption is based on the idea that Marza would continue to animate Sonic in the same way they have since 2003. It would be more of an assumption to say that they would suddenly feel the need to change all of a sudden.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, Sega DogTagz said:

And my assumption is based on the idea that Marza would continue to animate Sonic in the same way they have since 2003. It would be more of an assumption to say that they would suddenly feel the need to change all of a sudden.

Marza didn't work on Sonic in 2003, they weren't involved until Sonic 2006 with assistance from Blur who did the CG in Shadow the Hedgehog the previous year. 2003 was when Sonic Heroes released and I have no idea who did the CG in that game. One things for certain is that the voice cast has greatly improved since then, which I hope the current voice cast returns to do the movie. Of course chances of that happening in this film is unlikely, that's one of the things the Ratchet & Clank movie got right was the voices, that aloone probably would've took it from good to worse. Now the voice acting is best in Boom and Forces, so replacing the voice cast once it got this good at matching the characters, would be a big mistake.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Sega DogTagz said:

 

You said any iteration that carries those basic principles would still be "Sonic". My point in bringing up the cartoons was that if you generalize what Sonic is down to that basic concept, the possibilities for what you, or some movie dev can develop within those guidelines is incredibly diverse. If those are the only rules to play by, then you can warp and twist "Sonic" into something it really isn't, which is exactly why Sega has been so overprotective of the IP as of late.

I won't dispute this argument. But I was just highlighting the fact that if they were going to do that it wouldn't be 'Sonic in name only". But yeah, I do agree that Sonic could be transformed into something completely unrecognizable using the core basics. But "updating" Sonic's design for a PG-13 live action film is a necessity and nowhere near as extreme. Otherwise, this movie could have just as easily been an animated movie aimed at nine y/o kids. 

And I loved SATAM too and even Sonic Underground despite the reception. And Wasn't a huge fan of The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog but it was a fun little show. Sonic X & SATAM were my favorites and I hope if the movie takes any inspiration from the cartoons - They look at those two. 

Quote

If Sega has the final say, then that's all there is too it. They may bend and twist, but they are not going to break. They are not going to compromise their vision of the IP. They don't do it in video games, they don't do it for cartoons and they wont do it for a movie.  If they have final authority, which they likely do, then they don't have to meet anyone at any middle ground. They are free to set the ground-rules and watch paramount work around their wishes.

Furthermore, Sega likes brand synergy. Having recently fractured the brand with all that Boom stuff, and the new-ish commitment to the classic branch, do you honestly think they are keen to introduce yet another Sonic to the marketplace? I doubt it.

Paramount has been making movies for almost 80 years. They will have a much better grasp of what sells to the audience and Sega must realize this. Something as important as Sonic's design aka what will be the FACE of their product and possibly franchise will need to and most probably will  be a collaborative proccess between everyone involved. It won't just be "We want the game model ripped out of Sonic Colors and that's FINAL" it does not work like that. That's not how moviemaking works. Jeff Fowler will have a say, Neal Moretz will have a say, Tim Miller will have a say, concept artists for the movie who they send patents out to will have some pull as well if Paramount likes what  they're selling. Making a movie is a collaborative proccess. It isn't just going to entail Sega execs stomping their feet in the storyboard rooms and gatekeeping every creative decision the writers and producers make. 

 

And yes, by the very nature of the movie, regardless - It will be a new Sonic on the market. Merchandise and tv ads will be a separate brand from the games.

 

I'll reply to the rest in 40 minutes. I'm about to get off of work 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

Paramount has been making movies for almost 80 years. They will have a much better grasp of what sells to the audience and Sega must realize this. Something as important as Sonic's design aka what will be the FACE of their product and possibly franchise will need to and most probably will  be a collaborative proccess between everyone involved. It won't just be "We want the game model ripped out of Sonic Colors and that's FINAL" it does not work like that. That's not how moviemaking works. Jeff Fowler will have a say, Neal Moretz will have a say, Tim Miller will have a say, concept artists for the movie who they send patents out to will have some pull as well if Paramount likes what  they're selling. Making a movie is a collaborative proccess. It isn't just going to entail Sega execs stomping their feet in the storyboard rooms and gatekeeping every creative decision the writers and producers make. 

 

We can call it a collaborative process all we want, but if there is a single governing entity that has final authority than the only collaboration that will occur are the ones that they choose to allow. Its less of a collaboration and more of the guy with the high ground choosing to recede a bit. If Sega chooses to think that they would rather maintain consistency than waiver to movie experts about what is best for their IP, then that's that. Paramount can either get with the program or abandon the project. That is within the realm of authority held by Sega - and we all now how NOTORIOUSLY stubborn Sega of Japan is about these things.

All that creative talent can give all the 2 cents they want. If Sega doesn't want to compromise, they won't have too. I'm sure there will be plenty of room given for the movie buffs to stretch their creative minds and take fresh approaches, I just wouldn't imagine Sonic's character design to be on the table for anything other than minuscule changes. Nothing in Sega's recent history says that is a change they are willing to swallow.

 

Quote

And yes, by the very nature of the movie, regardless - It will be a new Sonic on the market. Merchandise and tv ads will be a separate brand from the games.

The first marketing push will say "From the hit videogame series" or something along those lines.

They may try to separate the canon's from the storytelling standpoint, but I would seriously doubt that they would be interested in splintering another entire faction off. The appetite for that must be dulled following Boom and the rise of Classic.

 

Quote

I'll reply to the rest in 40 minutes. I'm about to get off of work 

Take a sick day and go home early. Clearly this is more important.

 

1 hour ago, Blue Knight/Bluestreak said:

Marza didn't work on Sonic in 2003, they weren't involved until Sonic 2006 with assistance from Blur who did the CG in Shadow the Hedgehog the previous year. 2003 was when Sonic Heroes released and I have no idea who did the CG in that game.

Marza is credidted as far back as 2003 as Sega's in house CGI studio. Back then, they were VE Animation Studios/Visual Entertainment R&D Dept. In 2009 that switched over to SSVE (SegaSammy Visual Entertainment) and in 2010 they got the Marza tag.

Needless to say, the core structure of Marza has been around at Sega for a LOOOOOOOOONG time. Shoot, their current parent company has roots that go back to Sonic Jam and AoSTH.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, PeterPancake said:

That scene does look "realistic". The cars, lighting and space are all rendered to look real. Sonic looking like a video game model ripped out of the game is something completely different from that. That's not being"non-realistic" the same way of that scene 

You may be right, but some parts of the scenes looked very unrealistic like the part where hundreds of cars chased the Russian convoy. However, that's is not all the unrealistic scenes that the movie had like the part where the Rock went out of his car, to throw the torpedo at a truck which it get explode.

Another part was where Vin Diesel lure the missile to the submarine by hitting it, causing the missile to destroy it.  He managed to survive the explosion by getting out of his destroyed car. As he got out of the car, the explosion came closer to him, but his friends saved him. They all survived. See, that is unrealistic, there is no way they can survived all of that. I laugh at all of this, because this is hilarious and the movie ignored the laws of physics. 

Anyway, Sonic is a blue hedgehog who like to do crazy unrealistic dangerous things, like running loop-de-loops and escaping from a giant truck. I'm trying to show this film as a example of a very unrealistic fun creative fiction plot. So, the plot of the movie can be fun, weird, and joyful. It's fun to be creative to make a movie enjoyable for people to watch. However, it's not my or anybody's decision to decided what's best for the movie, it's Paramount's and Sega's decision to make what's is best for the movie. They can add whatever they want. As I say this in my last post, they say they will work closely with Sega of America. Here is the quote to prove it.: 

Paramount Pictures will work closely with SEGA of America to bring Sonic to the big screen, said Jim Gianopulos, Chairman and CEO, Paramount Pictures.

The SEGA Holdings Chairman and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Haruki Satomi confirmed that Marza is working on the movie.:

I am very honored that our companies, SEGA and MARZA, have this incredible opportunity to partner with Paramount Pictures for this production, which will bring Sonic to the big screen for the first time.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

 

We can call it a collaborative process all we want, but if there is a single governing entity that has final authority than the only collaboration that will occur are the ones that they choose to allow. Its less of a collaboration and more of the guy with the high ground choosing to recede a bit. If Sega chooses to think that they would rather maintain consistency than waiver to movie experts about what is best for their IP, then that's that. Paramount can either get with the program or abandon the project. That is within the realm of authority held by Sega - and we all now how NOTORIOUSLY stubborn Sega of Japan is about these things.

All that creative talent can give all the 2 cents they want. If Sega doesn't want to compromise, they won't have too. I'm sure there will be plenty of room given for the movie buffs to stretch their creative minds and take fresh approaches, I just wouldn't imagine Sonic's character design to be on the table for anything other than minuscule changes. Nothing in Sega's recent history says that is a change they are willing to swallow.

It sure as hell will be. Sega surely can't muscle every single creative decision they make especially something as big as Sonic's design. Sonic's design needs to be marketable to the masses, Paramount stands to lose money too, not just Sega. Their revenue has been on a steady decline and the Transformers films are underperforming at the box-office. It doesn't matter how good the writing is, a shitty presentation (having Sonic look like a cartoon) would ruin the movie for most people. Like you said, the concept of a blue anthropomorphic Hedgehog is a hard enough sell to the GA, but you aggravate that problem up to 11 by having Sonic look like a CG model ripped from the games. The problem here is that you think Sega will apply the same logic and thought proccess they have when managing the games and they'd be foolish to do so - because the film industry is a COMPLETELY different beast from the video game industry. If Sega hopes to expand their reach - They must adapt and conform to what is necessary in the Hollywood landscape, they can not strong arm their way through the production of this film. IT MUST be a collaborative proccess between Sega and people who KNOW what sells to the audience; people who have been making movies for years and have much more experience  than Sega does in the moviemaking business. Otherwise, there would have been ZERO reason to have Paramount or any Hollywood producers involved, Sega could've easily MARZA make an animated movie like the Werehog film they made years ago and sell the film to a distributor for release. The original writer from the previous version of the film at Sony where MARZA was doing the animation- confirmed that Sonic would get a redesign "although nothing drastic" which can be interpreted many different ways. But it confirms one thing, Sega is being more flexible, creatively. Because it's a necessary evil.

 

17 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

The first marketing push will say "From the hit videogame series" or something along those lines.

They may try to separate the canon's from the storytelling standpoint, but I would seriously doubt that they would be interested in splintering another entire faction off. The appetite for that must be dulled following Boom and the rise of Classic.

This is not like Sonic Boom or Classic. This is a multimillion dollar Blockbuster movie being footed, distributed and marketed by Paramount Pictures. Again, you're applying the same throught process people behind the games to this movie and that's a mistake. Movie Sonic will be different from classic, modern or Boom. It will be a completely different branch. Furthermore, Paramount will have a say in whether the brand gets splintered off (which It will) because this is their Sonic too. Their trademark will be on the copyright print right next to Sega's logo.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, there was a interview with the Sega Sammy Holdings President, Haruki Satomi. He did mention a little a bit of the movie. This is what he had say, when being asked about the movie.

CT: So back in the 90s Sonic the Hedgehog was one of the most successful and well-known franchises of Sega. Now fans of Sega are wondering when Sonic is going to make a successful comeback. What are you telling them?

Haruki Satomi: One of the answers I gave was the latest two titles which we launched last year, Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces, especially Sonic Mania which got a 80s, 85ish Meta-critic score and fans are excited about this game and people really love it, actual sales was very strong, and we introduced a Sonic animation series over the last two years. We recently announced the new partnership with Paramount for a Sonic movie project that's going to be available November 15th to December 19th so it's a little more than one year but it's coming soon and we're really excited about it. We can bring Sonic to the next level and not only bring the Sonic game to existing fans but we try to grow our fan base worldwide.

CT: So you think this movie is going to be a big thing when it comes to reviving Sonic the Hedgehog, making a successful comeback?

Haruki Satomi: Yes, one of it, one of our efforts to do so.

He think that the movie is going to be big, and it will revive Sonic and making a successful comeback.

Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/03/cnbc-transcript-haruki-satomi-president-sega-sammy-holdings.html

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, CaptainRobo said:

So, there was a interview with the Sega Sammy Holdings President, Haruki Satomi. He did mention a little a bit of the movie. This is what he had say, when being asked about the movie.

CT: So back in the 90s Sonic the Hedgehog was one of the most successful and well-known franchises of Sega. Now fans of Sega are wondering when Sonic is going to make a successful comeback. What are you telling them?

Haruki Satomi: One of the answers I gave was the latest two titles which we launched last year, Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces, especially Sonic Mania which got a 80s, 85ish Meta-critic score and fans are excited about this game and people really love it, actual sales was very strong, and we introduced a Sonic animation series over the last two years. We recently announced the new partnership with Paramount for a Sonic movie project that's going to be available November 15th to December 19th so it's a little more than one year but it's coming soon and we're really excited about it. We can bring Sonic to the next level and not only bring the Sonic game to existing fans but we try to grow our fan base worldwide.

CT: So you think this movie is going to be a big thing when it comes to reviving Sonic the Hedgehog, making a successful comeback?

Haruki Satomi: Yes, one of it, one of our efforts to do so.

He think that the movie is going to be big, and it will revive Sonic and making a successful comeback.

Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/03/cnbc-transcript-haruki-satomi-president-sega-sammy-holdings.html

I'm really rooting for this movie. If this movie is a smash hit, Sonic can become much bigger than they could've ever imagined.

Here's tweet from the writer responding to a fan asking whether the animation will look like those Boom commercials aka Sonic looking like a cartoon.

 

https://twitter.com/Pat_Kc/status/992542347257757696?s=09

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
33 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

Here's tweet from the writer responding to a fan asking whether the animation will look like those Boom commercials aka Sonic looking like a cartoon.

 

https://twitter.com/Pat_Kc/status/992542347257757696?s=09

I actually post that tweet to him. I ask him what he think of the logo. This is his response.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, a few days ago,  I ask Van the same question that I asked to the writer of the movie, if the animation will be similar to commercial ones. This is what he respond to my question.:

 I guess, he could be thinking that the animation would be like this.:
latest?cb=20100524085609

 

I also ask what did he think of the logo. He say that he kinda like the logo, and hope that the logo is just a placeholder.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If that ends up being the final logo I’ll be very very surprised. Anyway , it’s not the logo that concerns me. I’m eagerly awaiting casting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9.5.2018 at 4:52 PM, CaptainRobo said:

Here is the same interview with the President of Sega Sammy Holdings. He briefly started talking about the movie at around like 2:08:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/09/sonic-the-hedgehog-sega-president-talks-upcoming-movie-project-and-comeback.html

Interesting. I appreciate your updates CaptainRobo. ^_^

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

According to a listing from Production Weekly, the working title of the movie will be called Casino Night, which it is an reference to the zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Filming is expected to lasted in Vancouver until Oct. 25. More news about the movie is expected at E3 which is coming next month.

Source: https://pursuenews.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-working-title-filming-date-revealed/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

looks like the movie will be taking inspiration from the classics then.  But casino night really does sound just like a working title i dont know if a casino will be in the movie. but yeah all around really confusing title. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So "Casino Night" is legit, huh?

I already expressed my thoughts in previous posts... but I think the movie is in good hands, the only thing that bugs me is the location, Vancouver is where they shoot tv shows, not movies, it's the cheapest possible location, they probably didn't want to spend money on that but they hired Deadpool and Fast and Furious people, we'll have to see how CGI turns out, but if Marza is working on it, it must be good.

As for the live action part, hear me out... this is gonna be unpopular but, it's probably the best decision they could make to try to be successful, lots of movies fail to perform well because they are in full CGI, because that's not how movie industry works imo, if you want to make a mini movie for the TV for the fans, that's one thing, but a Hollywood movie is a different thing entirely. I'm not even interested in defending it, I haven't seen anything yet so how could I judge, I'm not defending SEGA either because I don't really care, but I do care about Sonic and I want it to be successful (but definitely not if it's shit), I just believe a fully CGI movie would flop hard, only fans would be interested in that.

Action, humor and big name actors are the things that will carry this movie for the general audience. "Guest Starring Sonic"... I guess, it's sad but true.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Especially since at his height Sonic was more globally recognizable than Mickey Mouse and even the Mouse can no longer sell as a major theatrical release these days. It's honestly kind of depressing, but that's just reality. Hopefully though we get plain lucky and they treat Sonic like they did Deadpool and go all in instead of going the Sonic X route.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Jack the Maniac said:

As for the live action part, hear me out... this is gonna be unpopular but, it's probably the best decision they could make to try to be successful, lots of movies fail to perform well because they are in full CGI, because that's not how movie industry works imo,

I hear you, and I don't agree. It's not the best decision whatsoever they could make even for general watchers. Where are you getting this idea that most full CGI movies don't do good? Many cartoon movies I know that make it into theaters did at least ok or very good. Just look at Disney or Pixar or Illumination Entertainment movies as example of full CGI cartoon movies that often do great. Even smaller companies who's cartoon CGI movies that make it onto the big screen have been known often to do fine enough. On the other hand the opposite has been shown often true to be bad, the majority of CGI cartoon & live action mix movies... especially if they are based on games... are known to be small or huge flops and heavily criticized by fans and normal watchers alike. Some of the only ones to work at all were based on comic/cartoon series like TMNT and not games. So yeah I'm just going to call your thoughts on how the movie industry works to be kinda wrong here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
43 minutes ago, Lord-Dreamerz said:

I hear you, and I don't agree. It's not the best decision whatsoever they could make even for general watchers. Where are you getting this idea that most full CGI movies don't do good? Many cartoon movies I know that make it into theaters did at least ok or very good. Just look at Disney or Pixar or Illumination Entertainment movies as example of full CGI cartoon movies that often do great. Even smaller companies who's cartoon CGI movies that make it onto the big screen have been known often to do fine enough. On the other hand the opposite has been shown often true to be bad, the majority of CGI cartoon & live action mix movies... especially if they are based on games... are known to be small or huge flops and heavily criticized by fans and normal watchers alike. Some of the only ones to work at all were based on comic/cartoon series like TMNT and not games. So yeah I'm just going to call your thoughts on how the movie industry works to be kinda wrong here.

But this isn't Pixar or Disney, so...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   1 member

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

You must read and accept our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy to continue using this website. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.