Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)

[Indigo Rush]

They keep dropping the Robotnik moniker. 

Are they actually going to call him Dr Robotnik in this film...? Wild. A number of years ago, I'd say calling him Eggman was alienating the fans in the West, but now that Eggman's been the standard name for decades, now I'd say calling him Robotnik is a weird choice.

Don't grow old, y'all.

[MrPolynomialX]

My Current thoughts on the movie so far.

- The Soundtrack might be the highlight of the movie.

- The action will probably not be disappointing. 

For everything else, however, I am going to remain skeptical.

If the movie wants to succeed, then it also needs to be good on its own right.

[Sega DogTagz]

41 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

The circumstances made him one, for sure.

The circumstances make any rebel a rebel. The term is always ushered in as a matter of perspective.

 

"One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"

Depending on where you are standing, you could make the argument that Sonic could be one of this biggest rebels in the history of anything.

[StaticMania]

The circumstances being: Him being transported to another world where he has to "kill" a ruling King.

[Scritch the Cat]

2 hours ago, Sonic Fan J said:

Since I provided this expectation of what type of personality I expect Sonic to have in the movie I'm curious if anyone is willing to buy into that type of character being a good representation of Sonic.

At least nowadays, whatwith Sonic's Twitter presence...yes; it kind of is.  Though I could do without Sonic breaking the fourth wall, and callback jokes aren't my favorite sort of fanservice, I would consider that a valid attempt to cater to Sonic's modern fanbase.

But then again, the live-action component implies they're also aiming for adults, and these adults may have a different ideal Sonic entirely.  It doesn't feel smart to have different parts of the cast catering to entirely different people.

[CaptainRobo]

Ok, I'm going to create a timeline of the movie development and type all the info about the movie that we got so far. So, here it is.:

Spoiler

2013:

Sony Pictures had acquired the rights for the Sonic Movie.

On December 3rd, Sony registered 3 web domains. They were sonicthehedgehog-movie.com, sonicthehedgehog-movie.net, and sonicthehedgehogmovie.net. None of these sites lead to anywhere. At that time, the movie haven't been yet confirmed in development.

2014:

On June 21, The Hollywood Reporter had reported that Sony had confirmed the movie is in developement. Marza will made the animation for the film.  It would be produced by Neal H. Moritz (Fast and the Furious movies, XXX, S.W.A.T., 21 Jump Street, The Green Hornet, Vantage Point, and Battle L.A.). The script will be written by Van Robichaux and Evan Susser (Fist Fight)  which, they were later no longer work on the movie.

2015:

No news happened at that time.

2016:

On February, the SEGA CEO, Hajime Satomi announced that the movie will be released in 2018.

On October 31, Tim Miller (Deadpool and Terminator: Dark Fate) was announced to be as a executive producer. His partner, Jeff Fowler (Gopher Broke) will direct the film, which make his first feature film. Van and Evan were replaced by Patrick Casey and Josh Miller (Golan the Insatiable) to write the script.

On December 17, the former writer, Van confirmed on Twitter that Sonic will get a redesign, but nothing extreme. He said that everybody wanted to look like and feel like Sonic.

2017:

On June 21, according to a interview with SEGA Networks' chief marketing officer, Mike Evans, he said that they had a movie coming in 2019, which means that the movie was push back to that year.

On October 2nd, Paramount Pictures had brought the rights for the Sonic movie, after Sony Pictures put it into turnaround. Despite this, all of the people who are currently working on the film remained.

2018:

On Feb 1st, Van hear that the script got changed and had become more action focused, since Tim had joined to work on the film.

On Feb 3rd, he later say that filming will start this summer, and that they are deep into the character tests.

Later on Feb 20, Paramount announced the release date for the film.

On March 5th, Omega Underground reported that the movie will begin filming in Atlanta starting July 30th. They also reported a rumor that Junkie XL will compose the score for the movie which later become true. However, later on April 1st, they reported that filming had been moved to Vancouver instead.

On April 25, A placeholder logo had been revealed at CinemaCon.

On May 29th, it was announced that Paul Rudd (Ant-Man, Ant-Man and the Wasp, and Anchorman) was in talks for the role of Tom, but the next day he was no longer in talks for the role. Other actors, Jack Black, Jason Segal, Owen Wilson, and Ed Helms were all considered. However, later on May 31, James Marsden was officially casted for the role of Tom. The budget for the film will be $90 million.

On June 7th, Tika Sumpter (Ride Along and Salt) had been casted for the female lead.

On June 9th, the Paramount Pictures CEO, Jim Gianopulos and Fast and Furious producer, Neal H. Moritz confirmed that Sonic will be a juvenile delinquent, the plot synopsis, and the movie's setting at during a Q&A at the 10th annual PGA produced by conference.

On June 30th, Jim Carrey (The Grinch, The Truman Show, The Mask, Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, Dumb and Dumber, Kick-Ass 2, and A Series of Unfortunate Events) was in talks for the role of Dr. Eggman.

Filming had begin in Vancouver under the working title Casino Night on July 30th.

On August 7th, Jim confirmed he will be Dr. Eggman for the movie. The next day, Ben Schwartz (DuckTales, Night School, The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part, and Rise of the TMNT) had been casted as Sonic's voice actor.

On August 9th, Adam Pally (Making History and Iron Man 3) and Neal McDonough (Captain America: The First Avenger, Red 2, and Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2) had been casted in undisclosed roles. 

On August 30th, Paramount changes its release date to Nov. 8th.

On September 14th, filming begins in Ladysmith until Sept 27.

Filming wrapped up in Vancouver on Oct 16th.

Additional filming also took place in San Francisco on November.

On December 2018, footage have been revealed at the Brazil Comic-Con. Later, the other week, posters have been revealed, which caused backlash and controversy. a poster of a movie concept Sonic had been leaked. The Sonic Movie open up a Twitter account and posted its first post that contain a picture with Sonic holding a sign that says, Can't a guy workout? Be back next year. Love Sonic

2019:

On Jan. 7th, Jim Carrey mentioned the movie at the Golden Globes.

On Jan. 14th, the Sonic Movie Twitter posted a 2009 vs. 2019 meme post that had a picture of Sonic's Black Knight render and a screen that is loading.

On Jan. 25th the Sonc the Hedgehog Twitter posted a post about the fan feedback about the movie which had a picture of Tim, Jeff, Aaron and Iizuka all smiling at the SEGA HQ.

On Feb 13th, Junkie XL had been confirmed to compose the score for the movie.

On Feb 18, Ben posted a picture of himself holding a Sonic Ice Cream which say the release date of the film on Twitter.

 

So, this is all what we got so far for the film. This took me forever to type all of this information.

 

[PeterPancake]

"He's not a Juvenile Delinquent and he's never been a rebel"

 

 

Uh-huh. Sure. 

 

[Scritch the Cat]

8 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

"He's not a Juvenile Delinquent and he's never been a rebel"

 

 

Uh-huh. Sure. 

 

It really is hard not to wonder if this film will take cues from Sonic X, or at least end up similar due to circumstances.

[SaturnWolf]

11 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

"He's not a Juvenile Delinquent and he's never been a rebel"

 

 

Uh-huh. Sure. 

 

I'm not sure if Sonic X, a cartoon universally panned for it's shitty writing, is really a great example for your case.

[Shaddy Zaphod]

Nor is that really an example of delinquency, he's avoiding being kidnapped by people he's never seen and doesn't know anything about.

[PeterPancake]

2 minutes ago, Scritch the Cat said:

It really is hard not to wonder if this film will take cues from Sonic X, or at least end up similar due to circumstances.

The concept is pulled directly from Sonic X so it's kinda inevitable. I could see them pulling other elements too. Like Angel Island being revealed to have been transported to Earth as well as a slew of other Mobian elements and locations. It could be the big twist of the final act. "You thought you were the only one, Sonic? The only one or THING, that made the trip from your world to ours? Guess again." 

 

This would be a good way to set up the world of Sonic on Earth. I just wish Tails and Amy were main characters in this movie too

[StaticMania]

32 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

"He's not a Juvenile Delinquent and he's never been a rebel"

Uh-huh. Sure. 

 

You know, had you used the scene from the SA2 adaptation where he was avoiding G.U.N., that...would've still been inaccurate, BUT it also would've been closer to the point you were trying to make.

[MrPolynomialX]

There are probably going to be several first-person scenes of Sonic running!

As evident by the footage shot in San Francisco.

I expect something similar to this!

Skip to 1:43

[PeterPancake]

3 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

You know, had you used the scene from the SA2 adaptation where he was avoiding G.U.N., that...would've still been inaccurate, BUT it also would've been closer to the point you were trying to make.

What difference does it make, though? He's still fleeing from the authorities in both scenes. He's still being a cocky smartass in both. That's Sonic

[StaticMania]

The difference would be that he's actually attacking a G.U.N. robot in the SA2 adaptation and he actually knows it's apart of the world's authority.

"There always seem to be a lot of police around when ya don't need 'em."

[CaptainRobo]

21 minutes ago, MrPolynomialX said:

There are probably going to be several first-person scenes of Sonic running!

As evident by the footage shot in San Francisco.

Here are some footage of the filming set in San Francisco.:

 

They also filmed some scenes at the Salesforce Tower.:

Spoiler

 

10 hours ago, Alexios31 said:

You took the words right out of my mouth 

 

7 hours ago, FFWF said:

 

"You took the words right out of my mouth" is an idiom signifying that the speaker agreed so strongly with what you said that they would have said exactly the same thing if you hadn't said it first.  It's a compliment.

Just to let you know that I was confused of what you have say. So, sorry about that. Oops. My bad.

[Scritch the Cat]

The mere presence of San Francisco is the most promising part of this film to me.  It doesn't mean it'll necessarily be good, of course, but it does tap into something that's nostalgic for many Sonic fans, so we can't completely write this off as just using Sonic as a logo to rope us into a movie that doesn't actually care about us.

[MrPolynomialX]

Here is something interesting...

This is the full skit with Jim Carrey from the 2019 Golden Globes.

I find this interesting because I think it might reveal what Robotnik's character will be like.

[Gamecuber64]

34 minutes ago, Scritch the Cat said:

The mere presence of San Francisco is the most promising part of this film to me.  It doesn't mean it'll necessarily be good, of course, but it does tap into something that's nostalgic for many Sonic fans, so we can't completely write this off as just using Sonic as a logo to rope us into a movie that doesn't actually care about us.

Jeff Fowler and Tim Miller have actually worked on Sonic before. They did the special effects in Shadow The Hedgehog and Sonic 06. The previous writers working on the film before Paramount bought it we're also huge Sonic fans, and the current writer, Patrick Casey, claims to have been a fan of the franchise since 1991. The other writer, Josh Miller, has at least researched the franchise (he knows obscure facts, like how Eggman was Robotnick's Japanese name, and how Sonic was originally in a band). A working title of the film was Sonic The Hedgehog: Casino Nights, which is a reference to Sonic 2. Not to mention that Marza animation is doing the CGi, and Green Hill is the city in the film. They probably wanted to reveal the poster at IGN to appeal to people who play video games.

It's not like these people know nothing about Sonic. That doesn't necessarily mean the film is going to be good, but I'm just saying, they know what Sonic is, and some of them have worked with Sonic in the past (Takashi Iizuka is even supervising the film, whatever that means).

 

Like I said with the first post I made on this thread, I'm still skeptical about the writing because of all the writer's resumes. Patrick Casey and Josh Miller have written a lot of bad content, but then when they studied writing more on their cartoon, Golan The Insatiable, that series started to improve, and their horror series on YouTube Red, 12 Deadly Days, is also apparently good. Casey also loved a review someone made, criticising a crappy straight to DVD film he worked on, and said that he agrees the movie is bad. So maybe they could have improved over time, but I don't know. It's good to see that Casey hinted at there not being fart jokes, and hearing them both repeatedly say that it isn't going to be anything like Alvin & The Chipmunks or Smurfs, but still.

Josh Miller also stated that when he went on to work on the Sonic movie, he thought that Sonic was an obscure franchise that hardly anyone knows about or remembers, but then when he got emails from friends and family members talking about how excited they are for the movie, and how they love the franchise, it put a ton of pressure on him.

 

Also is no one going to bring up that it only took like 2-3 months for them to film? That's a pretty short amount of time for an action movie with CGi. It almost leads me to thinking that a chunk of the movie may be animated (like how Tim Miller said that the beginning takes place on another planet). Either that or it is indeed being rushed. I have no clue considering how secret they're being about everything.

 

I'm very curious as to what direction they're taking with this movie. All we know, and all we're hinted at, is that it's possibly an action film (we know it's action because it was told that the script was heavily changed when Tim Miller came, to be more action-based) with comedic elements, where Sonic is a juvenile delinquent that comes to our world, and him, a cop, and his wife, become friends, and stop Robotnick (I think Tika Sumpter also said something about Sonic being lazy). Is nobody also going to ask why Sonic's shoes were electric in the motion poster? Maybe I'm looking too in depth at this.

We also know that Sonic is the MAIN CHARACTER. Tom Watchowski is just one of the other characters in the film alongside Sonic.

[Tarnish]

6 hours ago, Sonic Fan J said:

Since I provided this expectation of what type of personality I expect Sonic to have in the movie I'm curious if anyone is willing to buy into that type of character being a good representation of Sonic.

I was not a fan of Deadpool at all, so I guess it wouldn't work for me.

5 hours ago, Indigo Rush said:

A number of years ago, I'd say calling him Eggman was alienating the fans in the West, but now that Eggman's been the standard name for decades, now I'd say calling him Robotnik is a weird choice.

I wonder if they're gonna go with only one name or try to use both. I still say Sonic Adventure 1 handled it the best: his name was Robotnik and he referred to himself as that. But Sonic and the others called him Eggman as mocking nickname. That added some background to their 'relationship' and how Sonic saw Eggman: a bit of a joke and refusing to call him by his real name.

When the doctor began calling himself Eggman as well, all that disappeared.

[MrPolynomialX]

I will say the director, being Jeff Fowler, really wanted to make this movie.

He was attached to direct from the very beginning and seemed very passionate about it.

[MrPolynomialX]

I am just hoping that all the buildup for this movie pays off.

1 hour ago, Gamecuber64 said:

Jeff Fowler and Tim Miller have actually worked on Sonic before. They did the special effects in Shadow The Hedgehog and Sonic 06. The previous writers working on the film before Paramount bought it we're also huge Sonic fans, and the current writer, Patrick Casey, claims to have been a fan of the franchise since 1991. The other writer, Josh Miller, has at least researched the franchise (he knows obscure facts, like how Eggman was Robotnick's Japanese name, and how Sonic was originally in a band). A working title of the film was Sonic The Hedgehog: Casino Nights, which is a reference to Sonic 2. Not to mention that Marza animation is doing the CGi, and Green Hill is the city in the film. They probably wanted to reveal the poster at IGN to appeal to people who play video games.

It's not like these people know nothing about Sonic. That doesn't necessarily mean the film is going to be good, but I'm just saying, they know what Sonic is, and some of them have worked with Sonic in the past (Takashi Iizuka is even supervising the film, whatever that means).

 

Like I said with the first post I made on this thread, I'm still skeptical about the writing because of all the writer's resumes. Patrick Casey and Josh Miller have written a lot of bad content, but then when they studied writing more on their cartoon, Golan The Insatiable, that series started to improve, and their horror series on YouTube Red, 12 Deadly Days, is also apparently good. Casey also loved a review someone made, criticising a crappy straight to DVD film he worked on, and said that he agrees the movie is bad. So maybe they could have improved over time, but I don't know. It's good to see that Casey hinted at there not being fart jokes, and hearing them both repeatedly say that it isn't going to be anything like Alvin & The Chipmunks or Smurfs, but still.

Josh Miller also stated that when he went on to work on the Sonic movie, he thought that Sonic was an obscure franchise that hardly anyone knows about or remembers, but then when he got emails from friends and family members talking about how excited they are for the movie, and how they love the franchise, it put a ton of pressure on him.

 

Also is no one going to bring up that it only took like 2-3 months for them to film? That's a pretty short amount of time for an action movie with CGi. It almost leads me to thinking that a chunk of the movie may be animated (like how Tim Miller said that the beginning takes place on another planet). Either that or it is indeed being rushed. I have no clue considering how secret they're being about everything.

 

I'm very curious as to what direction they're taking with this movie. All we know, and all we're hinted at, is that it's possibly an action film (we know it's action because it was told that the script was heavily changed when Tim Miller came, to be more action-based) with comedic elements, where Sonic is a juvenile delinquent that comes to our world, and him, a cop, and his wife, become friends, and stop Robotnick (I think Tika Sumpter also said something about Sonic being lazy). Is nobody also going to ask why Sonic's shoes were electric in the motion poster? Maybe I'm looking too in depth at this.

We also know that Sonic is the MAIN CHARACTER. Tom Watchowski is just one of the other characters in the film alongside Sonic.

Josh Miller actually mentioned that the writing would be similar to Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Myst]

Not much in the way of news, but Marc Weinstock is now in charge of marketing at Paramount.

Marc Weinstock previously was in charge of the marketing campaigns for films such as Deadpool, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, The Revenant and The Peanuts Movie while working at 20th Century Fox. Before That, he worked at Sony, heading the marketing campaigns for Amazing Spider-Man and Hotel Transylvania. 

The article doesn't mention Sonic, but he will likely have a big hand in the marketing for it.

https://deadline.com/2019/02/paramount-confirms-marc-weinstock-as-president-of-worldwide-marketing-distribution-mary-daily-upped-to-co-president-1202560398/

 

 

 

[Red Hot Jack]

I agree with everything you guys said. The crew and cast seem genuinely passionate and excited about the movie, they really care about Sonic (since they worked hard on it), Paramount seems confident about the movie too, I'm so glad there is actually somebody who believes this thing will be good, because after all the disappointments from Sonic like Forces, the focus on Classic, TSR's lack of interest, this might finally be a good product for the series, I really believe that, because of cast and crew who work on it, I want to respect their work and be excited for it. Just like Detective Pikachu will be finally a good Pokemon product after disappointing games. Literally all the behind the scenes things we have heard about the movie sound promising. I really don't understand why some people are negative here, maybe they are just scared the movie will ruin Sonic and turn into something different? It's certainly not about the quality of the movie, it really sounds promising.

 

[Tracker_TD]

17 minutes ago, Jack the Shadow said:

Literally all the behind the scenes things we have heard about the movie sound promising. I really don't understand why some people are negative here, maybe they are just scared the movie will ruin Sonic and turn into something different? It's certainly not about the quality of the movie, it really sounds promising.

 

At this point if you don’t know why people aren’t being receptive towards this, it’s not because you don’t know, it’s because you don’t *want* to know. It’s been explained to you in this thread alone about 3 times, not to mention on Discord.

If you want to put your fingers in your ears and scream LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU - fine, but don’t pretend this hasn’t already been explained to you in agonising detail.