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I'm sure most of these were just random brainstorms that were't considered, but ffs some of them looks like a little kid designed them with their feet. I'm so happy the final product is the one they picked.

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So I just watched the whole of Season 1 (didn't have time/lost touch after Episode 10).

Wow, some comedy gold down here. It's been a long time since I watched cartoons on TV because of how lackluster they got around the time of... 2008? (Whenever Ben 10: Alien Force ended) But this really brought me back to those days. Sonic's all fun, there's no melodrama, Tails is adorable, Amy's likeable, Sticks has grown on me, Eggman's great as always... I could keep going on. Of course, I do have my gripes on it. I wish the series had more continuity and that Shadow and Metal Sonic appeared me. I wish other canon characters could jump in as well, but I digress. 

Some of the ideas here are great. For example, in the episode where Eggman gives Sonic power-absorbing shoes, Sonic's greatest strength also becomes his weakness. This area has been barely touched by the games (although I guess boosting could land you in pits sometimes). 

All in all, great show. Here's waiting for season 2 :) 

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As said, Amy's personality and temperament I can kinda get from what has been said, and she is at least far more sympathetic and rounded than the borderline psychopath she is in medias like Sonic X and some points of Archie (it also seems more in link with that empathetic side we saw of her in the Adventure series), I just wished they hadn't taken it to the point of making her the curmudgeonly fun police of the team a lot of the time. I mean it's not a bad personality (Sally Acorn and Blaze work as one for example), but it's not really a trait I tend to see with Amy and the early episodes tended to make a better compromise of her being an attempted voice of clarity and still rather hyperactive and childish. The whole point seems to be she's only supposed to get huffy and lose patience when she keeps getting screwed over anyway.

I suppose it can be considered a double sided coin, since Amy acting more stuck up allowed Sonic to become more fun loving and less jaded instead.

Knuckles pretty much just existing for jokes kinda explains a lot.

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I honestly really don't care for Boom Amy. She does come off as overly controlling and stuck up. She just, through and through, doesn't feel anything at all like Amy. And in all honesty, I probably wouldn't be as worked up about Boom Amy if it wasn't for the writers being so snide and bragging about "fixing" Amy, even though the end character resembles nothing like Amy and more like Sally Acorn at her most obnoxious. It wasn't Boom that fixed Amy, it was Ian Flynn that fixed Amy (ironically).

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And yet Ian Flynn's Boom Amy is even worse than the show's version.

I truthfully think Amy is a hard character to get down pat, and that's largely because so much of her character was originally focused around just Sonic. I'll give credit to Boom for trying in a manner that doesn't make her seem more bland, I just wish they didn't go for the 'middle aged grouch' act so much. When she's doing her overbearing shtick but at least being perky and hyperactive about it I don't mind as much.

I suppose at the very least she's a funny rendition of Sally Acorn.

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Well Archie Boom Amy stopped being a complete jerk by the end of the second issue and got better from there on.

And after thinking about, it would be better if the writers focus on Amy's other personality traits since there is more to her than just being grouchy when things aren't coming her way. And I guess stuff like her strange yet fitting friendship with Eggman and her diverse artistic skills could be a nice springboard for such ideas.

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I liked that Boom!Amy was more on her and not on Sonic, however I wish they had made her the archaeologist they intended her to be, you know? Her Boom profile says shes a history buff and loves history, but they only had one episode of her doing that. But yeah, someone else explained it best about female characters with these personality traits, but I say she suffers from "personality female syndrome".  And it is annoying because it seems like they gave her personality traits associated with female characters and how (some) people see women in general (shallow, vain, bratty, gets angry at the drop of a hat.... all traits Boom!Amy has).

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Just now, Mikyeong said:

I liked that Boom!Amy was more on her and not on Sonic, however I wish they had made her the archaeologist they intended her to be, you know? Her Boom profile says shes a history buff and loves history, but they only had one episode of her doing that. But yeah, someone else explained it best about female characters with these personality traits, but I say she suffers from "personality female syndrome".  And it is annoying because it seems like they gave her personality traits associated with female characters and how people see women in general (shallow, vain, bratty, gets angry at the drop of a hat.... all traits Boom!Amy has).

Well it's kind of hard to show off those traits in a comedy, if the Boom team were to do an adventure arc, maybe they could use Amy's archaeology skills but who knows? 

 

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To tell you the truth, I have more issues with Knuckles and Sticks than I do the show's version of Amy. She's at least entertaining and fleshed out in her own way, just a little off the mark in terms of the character it represents.

Besides that, the other half of the cast are pretty well handled. I love how Sonic, Tails, Eggman and his goons are written (keeping in mind I previously thought nearly every modern incarnation of Tails was boring as hell).

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12 minutes ago, E-122-Psi said:

And yet Ian Flynn's Boom Amy is even worse than the show's version.

I truthfully think Amy is a hard character to get down pat, and that's largely because so much of her character was originally focused around just Sonic. I'll give credit to Boom for trying in a manner that doesn't make her seem more bland, I just wish they didn't go for the 'middle aged grouch' act so much. When she's doing her overbearing shtick but at least being perky and hyperactive about it I don't mind as much.

I suppose at the very least she's a funny rendition of Sally Acorn.

I wasn't referring to Ian's Boom Amy. Ian's Boom Amy is like if you take all the changes that they made to the character in Boom to their logical extreme. And yeah, it makes an unpleasant character into something even more unpleasant.

I was referring to the main comics. Amy post-reboot has been absolutely great. I said it was ironic, because his take on Amy prior to Sally getting robotocized was absolutely horrible as well. When Ian finally learned to stop assassinating characters for the sake of his OTP, he finally started writing everyone in a way that was actually good, and Amy is a prime example.

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2 minutes ago, Soni said:

Well it's kind of hard to show off those traits in a comedy, if the Boom team were to do an adventure arc, maybe they could use Amy's archaeology skills but who knows? 

 

You think? I could think of at least two scenarios at the drop of a hat relating to amys archeology side in a comedy setting. One being that the episode actualy have the cast follow amy on one of her exbiditions, they find some old city and amy goes nuts and talks a lot about it. Sonic and gang are bored, and screws around. It ends with the city getting destroyed or something like that. Amy gets pissed and there we go. The second story could center around her house, they have visited it plenty of times anyway. them showing of a lot of archeology stuff in her home wouldnt be that hard.

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I have noticed Amy being a bit more vibrant since the reboot (I always just thought pre reboot Amy just fluctuated between a blander version of games or Sonic X Amy). A lot of times I still think she's just there though. She's not as motivated and pro active as her other versions (its hard to be when everyone's just another Freedom Fighter). I like Boom Amy at least has ambitions or delusions of grandeur outside being Sonic's girlfriend, meaning when they dilute that element there's still a funny character left.

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1 minute ago, E-122-Psi said:

I have noticed Amy being a bit more vibrant since the reboot (I always just thought pre reboot Amy just fluctuated between a blander version of games or Sonic X Amy). A lot of times I still think she's just there though.

Like she's been just there? Arguably, she's been more relevant then Sally herself. If I had to point at a SEGA character who's been "just there" for a while, it's Tails. And I blame that in part for him constantly being saddled with Sally for one of Alleah Baker's arcs. Champions was the first time since the reboot actually happened that Tails had a role that was actually relevant.

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4 minutes ago, PandoloFox said:

You think? I could think of at least two scenarios at the drop of a hat relating to amys archeology side in a comedy setting. One being that the episode actualy have the cast follow amy on one of her exbiditions, they find some old city and amy goes nuts and talks a lot about it. Sonic and gang are bored, and screws around. It ends with the city getting destroyed or something like that. Amy gets pissed and there we go. The second story could center around her house, they have visited it plenty of times anyway. them showing of a lot of archeology stuff in her home wouldnt be that hard.

And that's where I feel why the Boom team feel hesitant to show off her archaeology side, it just goes down to her spouting exposition. I mean, I guess you could have her completely geek out over some of the ancient artifacts I guess but I feel that could easily be irritating to hear (Battle of the Boy Bands anyone?). 

I guess the only proper way to do this is while Amy says some important exposition about ancient civilizations and stuff. Like for example, Amy explains how this ancient place has no known entrances since it was lost to history and then we cut back to Boom Knux, goofing off and accidentally opens a door. I feel that one could work a lot better than the ones you proposed since those ones feels a bit too mean spirited for a show like Boom.

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17 minutes ago, Soni said:

And that's where I feel why the Boom team feel hesitant to show off her archaeology side, it just goes down to her spouting exposition. I mean, I guess you could have her completely geek out over some of the ancient artifacts I guess but I feel that could easily be irritating to hear (Battle of the Boy Bands anyone?). 

I guess the only proper way to do this is while Amy says some important exposition about ancient civilizations and stuff. Like for example, Amy explains how this ancient place has no known entrances since it was lost to history and then we cut back to Boom Knux, goofing off and accidentally opens a door. I feel that one could work a lot better than the ones you proposed since those ones feels a bit too mean spirited for a show like Boom.

I suppose, but in the end her being into archaeology is not a personality trait but rather one of her interests. Its kinda weird to highlight it and then never realy show it of. And fine, maybe it would get annoying as a focus. But then at least decorate her house with tools and such relating to that interest. Subtle indications that she is realy into it.

I think Boom has been mean spirited a lot when it comes to some of its plots. i mean they have a whole episode with sonic and knuckles trying to get a sofa that they destroyed by dicking around. it ends with that the new sofa gets destroyed by a rocket in the end anyway.....and sonic and knuckles gets away with it. Eh, just me though.

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8 minutes ago, Soni said:

And that's where I feel why the Boom team feel hesitant to show off her archaeology side, it just goes down to her spouting exposition. I mean, I guess you could have her completely geek out over some of the ancient artifacts I guess but I feel that could easily be irritating to hear (Battle of the Boy Bands anyone?). 

I guess the only proper way to do this is while Amy says some important exposition about ancient civilizations and stuff. Like for example, Amy explains how this ancient place has no known entrances since it was lost to history and then we cut back to Boom Knux, goofing off and accidentally opens a door. I feel that one could work a lot better than the ones you proposed since those ones feels a bit too mean spirited for a show like Boom.

Maybe it's just because I enjoy seeing characters (and real life people) geek out about their interests, but I fail to see how Amy geeking out over ancient artifacts could be considered irritating. Obviously, seeing her geek out in Battle of the Boy Bands was annoying, but that's because she was in "fangirl mode" (mind control-induced fangirl mode at that) which I consider to be different than just excitedly discussing her interests.

Anyway, besides expositing information like in Sleeping Giant, the writers could bring out that side of her more by having her do things like bringing in an artifact she discovered which can then kick off the plot, or having her drag her friends along on an expedition deep into the woods to show them an ancient ruin or something. They could also portray her as an avid collector of ancient artifacts in various episodes (she actually has several in her home, so I don't know why they don't already make that a trait). One way they could show off her being a history buff that I literally just thought of would be a spin on the "story" plot, wherein Amy reads the rest of the group an old true story about the Ancients. When the episode segues into the story, each of the Ancients could be portrayed by a member of the team. The group would probably be unenthusiastic at first, but, by the end, they could be shown as legitimately interested in Amy's historical tales, which would be really nice. I think the idea could be funny, use another aspect of Amy's personality to kick off the plot, and even reveal some of the history of Bygone Island.

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10 minutes ago, PandoloFox said:

I think Boom has been mean spirited a lot when it comes to some of its plots. i mean they have a whole episode with sonic and knuckles trying to get a sofa that they destroyed by dicking around. it ends with that the new sofa gets destroyed by a rocket in the end anyway.....and sonic and knuckles gets away with it. Eh, just me though.

Fair enough, but that's one episode out of 52.

3 minutes ago, Hyper Enesephus said:
Maybe it's just because I enjoy seeing characters (and real life people) geek out about their interests, but I fail to see how Amy geeking out over ancient artifacts could be considered irritating. Obviously, seeing her geek out in Battle of the Boy Bands was annoying, but that's because she was in "fangirl mode" (mind control-induced fangirl mode at that) which I consider to be different than just excitedly discussing her interests.

Anyway, besides expositing information like in Sleeping Giant, the writers could bring out that side of her more by having her do things like bringing in an artifact she discovered which can then kick off the plot, or having her drag her friends along on an expedition deep into the woods to show them an ancient ruin or something. They could also portray her as an avid collector of ancient artifacts in various episodes (she actually has several in her home, so I don't know why they don't already make that a trait). One way they could show off her being a history buff that I literally just thought of would be a spin on the "story" plot, wherein Amy reads the rest of the group an old true story about the Ancients. When the episode segues into the story, each of the Ancients could be portrayed by a member of the team. The group would probably be unenthusiastic at first, but, by the end, they could be shown as legitimately interested in Amy's historical tales, which would be really nice. I think the idea could be funny, use another aspect of Amy's personality to kick off the plot, and even reveal some of the history of Bygone Island.

Well maybe not irritating  but rather boring, I don't know. I feel that exposition could be hard to do in a comedy but then I remember Be Cool Scooby Doo, where when they sum up how the villain of the episode execute his/her plan they show it visually so I guess when Amy spouts exposition, they could do it visually but that would require a bigger budget, wouldn't it or atleast a bigger budget than BCSD has since Boom is a CG show.

But it would be nice to see Amy tell tales of the Ancients or have a cursed artifact she brought, that spread bad mojo amongst the group.

There is certainly a lot of ideas the Boom team can go with in the second season, so I'll just wait it out.

 

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8 minutes ago, Soni said:

Fair enough, but that's one episode out of 52.

Well maybe not irritating  but rather boring, I don't know. I feel that exposition could be hard to do in a comedy but then I remember Be Cool Scooby Doo, where when they sum up how the villain of the episode execute his/her plan they show it visually so I guess when Amy spouts exposition, they could do it visually but that would require a bigger budget, wouldn't it or atleast a bigger budget than BCSD has since Boom is a CG show.

But it would be nice to see Amy tell tales of the Ancients or have a cursed artifact she brought, that spread bad mojo amongst the group.

There is certainly a lot of ideas the Boom team can go with in the second season, so I'll just wait it out.

 

True, shouldnt have generalised it.

I think one of the set backs for actualy pulling it of without overfloding it with exposition is the episode lenght. 11 minutes just doesnt give much room for spreading out the exposition without it taking up most of the episode. But if the setting is a discovered temple or something, they could have the focus be more comedy like and not too much about amy talking about it ( she mentioning its name and they exploring it a bit while carzy stuff happens would be enough )

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Ah yes, the length is quite a problem as well. Unless Freiberger and the crew are allowed to go for a 20-minute length then they could such a thing off but if they have to stick to their 11 minute limit that could be troublesome, while it does mean the comedy is pretty fast-paced and rarely drags, but when they do extend a joke, it's fucking amazing! (Exploding ducks,  most of the many comedic pauses and Real Sonic)

Also speaking of that one amazing real-life shot in Just a Guy, apparently Freiberger said that they got a fan to do that shot and one the fanbase might know? I placing my bets on @SSF1991.

 

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