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Is this game sales will be good? Even if this game will good. This game is nintendo exclusive. We know Wii U is bad console and we know Lost World wii u title sales was flopped in this situlation. Is this game sales will be good? Besides, sega can't cancel nintendo exclusive. P.S after sonic boom is announced Sega Sammy's stock price was dropped despite the good casino related news

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in b4 "I'm sorry, but this topic doesn't warrant discussion and therefore I will have to lock it"


He's essentially asking if the game is doomed due to the fact that recent Sonic titles may or may not have been of poor quality, coupled with the fact that its exclusive to a platform that isn't doing so well at the moment (the Wii U). Personally, I try not to set my expectations too high these days. It may turn out fine, or it may not. I won't really have an opinion on that until I see it in action.


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On the subject of will Sonic Boom be profitable.

 

Answer is absolutely not. It's a simple numbers game. If it's true that the game has a budget of $20 million, it will have to sell at least 1 million copies in it's first few weeks just to break even. 

 

That is not going to happen, certainly not given the state of the Wii U. 

 

P.S after sonic boom is announced Sega Sammy's stock price was dropped despite the good casino related news

 

That is not unusual at all. 

 

They more or less they confirmed the expenditure of $20-$50 million on this re brand, of course the stock would drop.

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We know Wii U is bad console

 

The can of worms has been opened.

 

I don't think it will matter if it sells poorly or not. The exclusive Wii U bullshit they pulled is almost over.

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For anyone who isn't on SoA, OP likes to predict doom and gloom for the Sonic IP and that SEGA should sell it.

I doubt anyone is expecting groundbreaking sales for a Wii U exclusive anyway.

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You know, I'm not the biggest advocate of Sonic Boom either but just for fucking once I'd love to talk about how much I am or am not looking forward to a title without having people turning it into a goddamned financial issue. Can we just talk about whether or not something looks fun? Is that too much to ask anymore?

 

You can always not participate in those topics? 

 

Also why not talk about it, the financial side of Sonic is pretty important since it's not just going to affect Sonic games but other branches of it and sega as a wider company.

 

And considering the estimated figures sega are throwing at this one, we've not had this interesting a financial incentive since Generations.

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Umm, the game will do just fine? I know the game is on a system with a low instal base and the Wii U is struggling a bit unfortunately (especially with games like 3d World and DKC TF on the thing; they are such good games man :() but there are many things to consider here.

 

Firstly, the game is only a fraction of the the whole Sonic Boom "re-brand". In addition to the 3ds and Wii U games, there is going to be many toys, a (what looks to be) well done and fun cartoon on a popluar channel, and tons of other potenal things as well (that rumored Sonic film in the works might just be based on Sonic Boom). Even if the game doesn't do so great, these are safety nets for the game; to cover up what ever potential losses the game may have.

 

Secondly, this game is part of a three-game exclusivity deal. Meaning, Sega got some amount of money from Nintendo for this, Sonic Lost World and Mario and Sonic. And considering Sega is very fimilar with failing consoles, they must know what they are doing if the game is coming to the Wii U. Even then, the 3ds Version of the game will sell like hot cakes with that being a very successful handheld, so ether way the game will not be a huge loss to Sega.

 

And lastly, we need to consider the factor of the Wii U's recovery. Yes, the system lost alot of 3rd party support and all, and Nintendo still has many bullheaded measures for the system (the pathetic VC line up for the Wii U, no proper account system like the Sony/Microsoft platforms, no cross by for VC games, ect), but with this year having Mario Kart and Smash the Wii U has the potential to get a significant adoption boost. Out of all the next gen systems on the market, the Wii U is the best one so far, with it having many great 1st party exclusives (Mario 3d World, DKC, Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Lego City, Mario Bros/Luigi U, Nintendo Land) that outclass many of the PS4/X1 games out now (granted who knows how long that will last....), so with another price drop and other possible factors, the system could get a PS3 level re-brand.

 

Lost World may have not done super great, but with a cartoon coming and the factors I listed above, Sonic Boom U has a chance to be a huge hit for both Sega and Nintendo :).

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You can always not participate in those topics? 

 

So don't partake in any Sonic Boom topic ever.

 

Got it.

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For starters, the Wii U is likely to pick up this year. It not only finally has Nintendo's edge of lower price behind it, but it also has a much bigger line of exclusives. The ultimate reason the Wii U has lagged is because it was more expensive than comparable consoles and didn't really have many exclusives to begin with. I mean, did anyone ever look at the Wii U's selection when it first came out? Practically everything barring a handful of games could be purchased on any other console, and it was more expensive than a PS3 or 360 as well. It's a no brainer that it wouldn't sell well except to people who REALLY love Nintendo IPs.

But now it has Smash Bros. which is a big seller, as well as plenty of other titles. It's likely the tide will turn. Look at the 3DS - Nintendo can still make competitive consoles, they just released the Wii U Wii too early.

Will Boom run a profit...? Hmm, unlikely given that Transformed was multiplat and still could only score a million plus on its own. However, I still think it will sell well in Wii U terms. Merchandise can pick up the slack I think if it's as hugely popular as it's expected to be.

The idea is this is long-term: I doubt Boom 2 would be a Nintendo-exclusive. And if it's anything like Transformed? Boom 2 will be a MASSIVE hit.

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i dunno what if sonic boom game quality is good

Its not really a question of whether the games quality will be good but whether it will profit at all which from the looks of things won't really happen unless they do a good job trying to sell this game.

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i dunno what if sonic boom game quality is good

 

I'm not sure what your intention was with this post and what you are trying to say, as I can't tell due to your grammar being bad and no punctuation being present. When posting here at the SSMB per the rules, you are to use proper punctuation and grammar with your sentences at all times.

 

Second of all, I'm not seeing how this statement, question, or whatever this is contributes to the discussion at hand. Either you post a thought of yours to the topic that is actually relevant which contains more than one thought-out sentence, or you don't post at all.  

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You know, I'm not the biggest advocate of Sonic Boom either but just for fucking once I'd love to talk about how much I am or am not looking forward to a title without having people turning it into a goddamned financial issue. Can we just talk about whether or not something looks fun? Is that too much to ask anymore?

 

We can, and we do.

See the thing is, I love the Sonic franchise and I want to see it remain relevant if/when I have kids, so they can enjoy the games too. As such, you can't really avoid talking about business and financials. That's just how it is. Its depressing at times, but this is an inescapable reality. Money is the river that irrigates the fields of SEGA and keeps the Sonic franchise alive. If that dries up....well....there won't be anything to look forward to.

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If the game lives up to its hype, puts on a grand E3 show, and has optimum advertising, this game could very well profit, yes even the Wii U version, despite the Wii U "only" having a 5-6 million audience.

 

Granted, my first and foremost thought is how fun it'll be rather than letting how much a game will sell detriment my fun.

 

Oh and hi, Omote from SEGA Forums, long time no see.2rqbkfm.gif

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That is not going to happen, certainly not given the state of the Wii U. 

 

Meh, I disagree with that opinion.

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Does it matter as long as the game's good? I never got the huge consumer concern over a console's sales. Wii U has great games, why should I care this much if it's selling badly?

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Does it matter as long as the game's good? I never got the huge consumer concern over a console's sales. Wii U has great games, why should I care this much if it's selling badly?

Cause if somethings not making money they are gonna stop putting money into it.

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I think as a whole the Sonic Boom branch of the franchise will be a success - with toys and a cartoon giving the series a wide reach, I can see it making a fair bit of money if it's executed in the right way and manages to capture the public's attention.

 

The game? Not so much, at least on Wii U. The 3DS version very well may sell like hot cakes if the show takes off, as it's on a very popular platform. With any luck the Wii U will have picked up some steam by then, but if not I can see the game doing reasonable by Wii U standards (albeit poor by every other standard) and using the 3DS game and the merchandising as a crutch to stop it from being a complete flop.

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Meh, I disagree with that opinion.

I don't think that's an opinion. It's very possible that the Wii U game won't break even. 3DS will probably.

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I don't think that's an opinion. It's very possible that the game won't break even.

Considering how he was speaking in absolutes for that segment, yes that very much was an opinion.

And as stated, I disagree with his opinion.

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Well my point of view is..... WHO THE HELL CARES!?

i mean no one wants to know if the game will do good and stuff accept for freaking sega!!!!!!!!

its a game that is meant to be fun and interesting rather than just financial issues.

I for one wont be on this topic again

i hope you learnt something from this...

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You guys I know its hard to talk about whether the game will do well and everything, but this is a business and its not like no one is going to enjoy the game, its just that if it doesn't well (which is looking likely unless extra measures are taken) it won't have any new sequels or merchandise or any of the things that we all like and I know no one wants that. I know a good deal of game series that probably won't ever even have another sequel because of bad sells despite them being very good and its not like is saying that the game in question will be bad as a result, we're all just worried about how it will do so this isn't the last time we see it, if you don't want to talk about it thats fine, but don't try and ignore the financial side of things like this.

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