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I actually don't think there's anything inherently wrong with releasing some merchandise before the thing is released. It actually seems to be a fairly common thing to do, and it could probably be a decent way to build up hype. It's just that for it to really have a point first you need a set release date and people already interested in the project. Neither of which Ken has.

 

Really, the patches or the phone cases could have been a smart move. They could have been used to gauge interest, and depending on what happens he could have acted accordingly (if they sold, make a couple more things, if they didn't, stop).  But, of course, that's not what happened. 

You know, I just realized something really really sad.

 

In the five/six years he's been doing, how many pages has he done in total? One. That page being the released page of the Geoffrey prelude. Other than that, it's all terrible model sketches, and one short part of a script.

 

That's really sad Penders. 

 

There's not really any reason to believe he's only done one page. Yeah, we haven't seen any others, but he has no reasons to show us his completed images. The only reason he showed that one page was because it was supposed to be part of a free prequel. 

 

If the guy had the idea that he'd have it done by Comic-Con, even if he missed that date, it seems extremely unlikely he has absolutely nothing done of the main book.

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I actually don't think there's anything inherently wrong with releasing some merchandise before the thing is released. It actually seems to be a fairly common thing to do, and it could probably be a decent way to build up hype. It's just that for it to really have a point first you need a set release date and people already interested in the project. Neither of which Ken has.

 

Really, the patches or the phone cases could have been a smart move. They could have been used to gauge interest, and depending on what happens he could have acted accordingly (if they sold, make a couple more things, if they didn't stop).  But, of course, that's not what happened. 

 

There's not really any reason to believe he's only done one page. Yeah, we haven't seen any others, but he has no reasons to show us his completed images. The only reason he showed that one page was because it was supposed to be part of a free prequel. 

 

If the guy had the idea that he'd have it done by Comic-Con, even if he missed that date, it seems extremely unlikely he has absolutely nothing done of the main book.

 

Just keep in mind that he's been realizing plot details and such only as far back as a few months ago, meaning completed pages would have to be redone and reworked in order to include those new ''plot important characters''

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Unfortunately, we have no real way of gauging how far along the project is. I wish we did, or at least had some kind of sneak peaks.

 

Actually, now that I think of it, a sneak peak for the script of the comic wasn't shown that long ago, was it? I know time slips away on me sometimes... but even then, the fact he showed the script then didn't necessarily mean it wasn't made earlier than that and only shown then.

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Just keep in mind that he's been realizing plot details and such only as far back as a few months ago, meaning completed pages would have to be redone and reworked in order to include those new ''plot important characters''

 

Dude thinks this'll be a six or so book thing. For all we know whatever characters he's had sudden revelations about couldn't even be relevant until book four or whatever. And either way, there's a difference between "I have to change this" and "I just flat out haven't done this".

 

I get that Penders is going really pathetically slow. I doubt he's even close to finishing. Just "We've seen one page, therefore one page has been completed" is illogical. Verb and Noun's right that his progress can't really be gauged. 

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So... which characters does Penders have access to exactly? I know that he has all the characters in 25 Years Later, as well as anyone in Mercia, but I'm not sure about who else.

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Actually, in a way, everyone DID die -- everyone who existed that Penders, indirectly OR directly, created.

 

Which sucks, because then any stupid loopholes like Scourge being anti-Sonic or Shard's crystal thingy being Penders-born are not allowed anymore, even if those characters were fully and truly realized by completely different people.

I kindaa wish they'd start testing the waters - seeing who and what they can get away with and how much attention is payed to them by Penders, seeing if even he can remember if a character was created by him or not, and to what affect.

 

You know, I bet if he'd worked things out diplomatically instead of out-of-nowhere trying to grab and take all these echidnas for himself, they might have been able to work out some sort of deal where he could use "his" characters in a series that could be as shitty as it wanted while Archie wouldn't have to reboot the whole series and lose half the lore and characters.

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So... which characters does Penders have access to exactly? I know that he has all the characters in 25 Years Later, as well as anyone in Mercia, but I'm not sure about who else.

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Ugh...so, it's not like Chronicles, though, right? Sega doesn't care about those characters because Chronicles might as well be a speck of dust, but the writers care about theirs, right? So, are we just going to sit here forever limited only to characters we have left and new ones we create while Penders does...whatever, or is anything ever going to come to fruition? Because it's not like Penders could use evil Sonic, he'd get sued by Sega.

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Hey, the tablecloth has Lara-Su on it. Awesome. Reused art I think, but at least he's paying attention to his main character for once. Still trotting out the Lien-Da standee, though.

 

It's interesting that he seems to be going into advertisement overdrive, making sure his name is nice and big with the logo on that tablecloth. I wonder how much that cost to print?

 

 

 

(Edit- I just noticed he's located near the restrooms. That's not important whatsoever, it just made me chuckle because I live a joyless existence)

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Hey, the tablecloth has Lara-Su on it. Awesome. Reused art I think, but at least he's paying attention to his main character for once. Still trotting out the Lien-Da standee, though.

 

It's interesting that he seems to be going into advertisement overdrive, making sure his name is nice and big with the logo on that tablecloth. I wonder how much that cost to print?

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Ugh...so, it's not like Chronicles, though, right? Sega doesn't care about those characters because Chronicles might as well be a speck of dust, but the writers care about theirs, right? So, are we just going to sit here forever limited only to characters we have left and new ones we create while Penders does...whatever, or is anything ever going to come to fruition? Because it's not like Penders could use evil Sonic, he'd get sued by Sega.

 

Sega and Archie have more to lose than Penders, and companies would always rather avoid losing money if they can, so they're simply not chancing it.  It's not like Penders is going to break the bank, and it's also not like Sega cares at all about any characters it didn't invent.  As fans, it's regrettable and quite hard to watch, but there's really nothing that can be done without either Sega or Archie exerting themselves more than they need to.

 

...Well, unless Archie tries introducing notScourge and notShard and so on; I'm not sure what would happen in that situation, but again, it may simply be a matter of not chancing it.  Not unless they can do it with existing characters, anyway; for instance, I've heard Gemerl cited as a potential Shard substitute both before and after his recent appearance.

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