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13 hours ago, horridus said:

Apologies for the double post, but there's been a teensy weensy little update on LSC. Naturally tho, its not anything actually new. 

 

That's right folks, now Lara-Su Chronicles can blight your eyes in RUSSIAN! 

Yeah. Not much else to say really. 

Translations, people?

 

Also, his semi-cute assistant changed breed. 

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4 hours ago, bimaloy30 said:

I think he wanted to just have ownership of his characters just so he could milk the connection to Sonic to ensure his project would get customers.Even the one non-derivative material he did produce (The Lost Ones) had some cast members making a debut in the Sonic/Image crossover for example.
 

You would think correctly. Even now he's done the absolute bare minimum needed to sever this project from Sonic- he still uses 'Mobius' and references a 'Warlord Kintobor', 'Princess of Acorn' and a 'Blue Quilled Erinacinaie' in various materials, and the only truly radical changes he's made have been in those areas where he absolutely cannot skirt the line. Its been noted more than once that whatever he says, at the end of the day Sonic is the only thing he has going for him, and he desperately needs that connection for any kind of recognition or success. 

That is, if he actually ever bothers to release this thing, which is looking increasingly doubtful. 

3 hours ago, DabigRG said:

Also, his semi-cute assistant changed breed. 

Not exactly. She didn't change breeds, just designs, and technically that's her 'original' self- 

A few pages into this there's going to be some kind of reality warping wave or whatever, and when the dust settles she'll look like this.

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If that sounds confusing, convoluted and more trouble than its worth... you're absolutely correct, it is indeed all of those things. 

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8 minutes ago, horridus said:

You would think correctly. Even now he's done the absolute bare minimum needed to sever this project from Sonic- he still uses 'Mobius' and references a 'Warlord Kintobor', 'Princess of Acorn' and a 'Blue Quilled Erinacinaie' in various materials, and the only truly radical changes he's made have been in those areas where he absolutely cannot skirt the line. Its been noted more than once that whatever he says, at the end of the day Sonic is the only thing he has going for him, and he desperately needs that connection for any kind of recognition or success. 

That is, if he actually ever bothers to release this thing, which is looking increasingly doubtful. 

Not exactly. She didn't change breeds, just designs, and technically that's her 'original' self- 

A few pages into this there's going to be some kind of reality warping wave or whatever, and when the dust settles she'll look like this.

DFCotEXUMAA7ij5.jpg

If that sounds confusing, convoluted and more trouble than its worth... you're absolutely correct, it is indeed all of those things. 

I'm honestly not sure what I'm even seeing there.

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*low whistle* That is a mighty impressive analysis, miiighty impressive. Like, kudos, that has got to be the most thorough technical assessment of something Penders related on this thread. We rarely get any kind of insights like this that don't have to do with the art or the storytelling. 

Likewise, none of this is particularly surprising. Some time ago, Penders decided to showcase a French translation of this page- a native French speaker (our very own @Adamis, as a matter of fact) immediately pointed out that this translation, supposedly provided by a friend of Penders' who could speak French, was riddled with errors. Another translation was made, and again there were errors pointed out, with Penders bending over backwards trying to 'prove' that his translation was legitimate. Even going so far as to claim that the reason things looked fishy to the critic was because they were Belgian, and that the French spoken in Belgium was different to the French spoken in France (spoiler alert- no it wasn't). 

Penders eventually hired Adamis on to do the translation work, for which we salute him. But either way, point of order? That this latest translation comes off as it does is of absolutely NO surprise. 

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On ‎9‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 1:34 PM, horridus said:

You would think correctly. Even now he's done the absolute bare minimum needed to sever this project from Sonic- he still uses 'Mobius' and references a 'Warlord Kintobor', 'Princess of Acorn' and a 'Blue Quilled Erinacinaie' in various materials, and the only truly radical changes he's made have been in those areas where he absolutely cannot skirt the line. Its been noted more than once that whatever he says, at the end of the day Sonic is the only thing he has going for him, and he desperately needs that connection for any kind of recognition or success. 

That is, if he actually ever bothers to release this thing, which is looking increasingly doubtful. 

Not exactly. She didn't change breeds, just designs, and technically that's her 'original' self- 

A few pages into this there's going to be some kind of reality warping wave or whatever, and when the dust settles she'll look like this.

DFCotEXUMAA7ij5.jpg

If that sounds confusing, convoluted and more trouble than its worth... you're absolutely correct, it is indeed all of those things. 

GOOD LORD, what is THIS suppose to be? It almost look like a nightmare I had that one time!!

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1 hour ago, amadeii said:

What confuses me, though, is why he thinks he needs these translations in the first place. They feed the illusion of progress, I guess, while he churns out maybe one page per year. (Maybe he produces more that he's not showing us. I don't know.) It's like he wants people to think there's a high demand for this story that isn't even close to being finished, because usually, translations mean that the work has already been successful in the original language. His way of handling this series is just... baffling sometimes. Like he wants it to appear successful without doing the work or finishing it, or something.

It feels like a prime example someon counting their chickens before they hatched.

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1 hour ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Knowing Ken and his cheapness, most likely. I mean, he uses stock images found off of the first Google Image result.

Which is weird, considering he's apparently hired people specifically to do that.

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35 minutes ago, KingScoopaKoopa said:

Maybe he thinks he's hurting the official Sonic comics by constantly promising the "true" continuation is coming.

You know, it really wouldn't surprise me if that really was a factor in this. Guy has demonstrated that, regardless of what he says, he is nothing if not spiteful, and still harbors a great deal of bitterness towards Flynn. 

In truth I think he's kind of trapped. He's promised all this crap and burned all these bridges in the name of a bunch of candy colored cartoon animals made for a glorified video game commercial... and now he has to prove that it wasn't all for nothing. Only from the looks of things, there's no real passion for this project, if there ever was any to begin with, so he keeps chugging out these inane tidbits and wasting time sparring with people on twitter rather than actually buckling down and getting things done. 

....granted, that's an overly generous interpretation. He may, in fact, just be lazy and obnoxious. Occam's Razor and all that. 

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I've been doing my yearly/bi-yearly viewing of Babylon 5. The Kodos comment at the top of the page made me think of a small reference to the series back in ol' #50:

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In the third panel, Penders (I assume anyways; it'd be his style) name-drops two characters from the series, Londo and G'Kar, though he seems to have gotten the latter's name from an old promotional brochure (and managed to misspell it while he was at it.) I initially thought this was cool when I first read it in the Sonic Achives, mostly because B5 doesn't get as much focus as it should, but now after learning about Penders' reputation of barrowing things, it comes off tacky, especially since it feels unnecessarily shoe-horned in. Granted, you could argue that this isn't unlike Square's naming two random characters Biggs and Wedge, but at least they have more role.

(Also, could be my imagination, but "Jakkar's" silhouette looks like Delenn from the brochure except with less of a collar. Then again, this IS Penders.)

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11 minutes ago, captobvious42 said:

I've been doing my yearly/bi-yearly viewing of Babylon 5. The Kodos comment at the top of the page made me think of a small reference to the series back in ol' #50:

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In the third panel, Penders (I assume anyways; it'd be his style) name-drops two characters from the series, Londo and G'Kar, though he seems to have gotten the latter's name from an old promotional brochure (and managed to misspell it while he was at it.) I initially thought this was cool when I first read it in the Sonic Achives, mostly because B5 doesn't get as much focus as it should, but now after learning about Penders' reputation of barrowing things, it comes off tacky, especially since it feels unnecessarily shoe-horned in. Granted, you could argue that this isn't unlike Square's naming two random characters Biggs and Wedge, but at least they have more role.

Aye, I know the feeling. I got the reference as a kid because I watched B5 (didn't understand any of it, natch). Much like yourself, it seemed neat back then. These days, less so. 

In fairness, referencing other works isn't all that bad. I mean heck, in the games proper we have Super Sonic and The Death Egg, both of which REALLY tap-dance on the fine line between homage and outright theft. Done right, references can be clever or amusing. Penders problem though is that he overdoses his work with references, and those references eventually reach a point where they're more like substitutions. The references become integral parts of his worldbuilding, to the point where it starts looking more like a weird derivative crossover fanfiction of Superman, Star Trek and whatever else captures his fancy at a given moment. 

16 minutes ago, captobvious42 said:

(Also, could be my imagination, but "Jakkar's" silhouette looks like Delenn from the brochure except with less of a collar. Then again, this IS Penders.)

In this case it would indeed be your imagination, though I don't blame you for being suspicious. While at a certain angle it can be seen that way, in truth it is simply a result of Spaz's artwork and his tendency to give Overlanders a serious case of Anime Hair. 

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Soo yeah, Penders took the name, but the rest of that is all Spaz. 

 

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