Megathread The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096

[Meta77]

I am in no way going to try and defend Ken as he screwed up the Archie comic horribly toward the end. But lets not kid ourselves trying to paint sonic characters used in the fandom as a innocent place for kids. I can go on pixiv right now. Type Amy Rose and get some of the most insane nsfw art ive seen since well last week lol.  I was wondering why twitter said ken was trending today.

[tailsBOOM!]

Ken Penders trying to take down DC with him:

 

[Dr. Detective]

1 hour ago, tailsBOOM! said:

Seriously.  Someone tell him to leave our fandom alone at this point.  He's never even played a game, tries to shoehorn in his OCs and now admits to sexualizing the characters... Why?   What good does it do him?

I mean, to be fair, him sexualizing the characters isn't something he needed to admit to. We could tell.

Like, I was always calling Lara-Su, "Weird White Bikini Wearing Alien Lady" or some variation of that because of that ridiculous cover of her standing almost naked on a photo realistic cliff. I seriously don't think I ever referred to her by name after seeing that cover.

And the way she's always drawn like she's posing for a pin-up calendar. She can't even be drawn laying on a bed without it looking like she's ready to make out with it. 

A part of me is interested in finding out what else he had planned. Did he also want to turn Sonic into a pin-up girl? Did his idea of having Sonic walk around in a white bikini get shot down? I need to know.

 

[tailsBOOM!]

I lost it at this:

That is going to be a copypasta, calling it.

[DabigRG]

4 hours ago, The Tenth Doctor said:

its obvious that Ken has been reading J.K Rowling's Twitter and wants to add in secret sex info into his stories. 

 

2 hours ago, Skull Leader said:

 

Ken Penders: *talks about the sexual lives of fictional character from a franchise whose main target are young kids in an attempt to copy J.K. Rowling*

Oh shit, really?.

3 hours ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Oh, BTW, this is his defense.
https://twitter.com/KenPenders/status/1115371825016348672

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I was amazed to learn there was Sonic porn.

2 hours ago, Polkadi~♪ said:

Consensual sex with persons at least age 16 but not yet 18 is permitted only if the actor is less than 10 years older than the younger party. 

Um...

2 hours ago, Polkadi~♪ said:

Still doesn't stop it from being weird, especially when Geoffrey looks and acts like a full-grown man (by the rules of this comic's universe, at least)

He does?

Like, admittedly, I didn't realize he wasn't Sonic's age until the wiki said he was in his twenties.

2 hours ago, Polkadi~♪ said:

Also, why plan to make such a story on a family-friendly comic? It's a good thing that plot point got shut down.

 

Long story short: thanks, i hate it.

Yeah, seriously.

 

2 hours ago, Ryannumber1gamer said:

 Good God, how did Penders just not get immediately fired after trying to pitch this idea to SEGA. Like yeah, it says something that SEGA at least had enough sense to step in and rejected this, given it's a children's comic book, and in of itself - is creepy, but how did SEGA not think to fire him on the spot for suggesting in their children's comic book about Sonic the Hedgehog for trying to get through with such a thing?

To be honest, I get the sense that this is one of those things that crossed his mind, but obviously didn't pitch because he's not stupid.

 

1 hour ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

And even then, it wasn't explicitly stated or shown or EVEN IMPLIED that they were fucking.

The fact that this sentence is being said is more proof of how made my night is.

1 hour ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Either he forgot that Sally Acorn is not a character that exists in his comic thing that's never coming out or he's having trouble remembering that his own work isn't supposed to be Archie Sonic fan-fiction. 

Well, considering he was selling Acorn emblem sashes in the earlier days...

1 hour ago, SBR2 said:

Why is it everytime I talk to this man it blows up?

Because you are a fingernail to a hairtrigger?

 

1 hour ago, Ryannumber1gamer said:

Wha? Huh?, uh...?

How the hell are you representing LGBT members by mentioning you planned to have Sally and Geoffrey have sex in the comic, and claim that you would never imply heterosexual relationships are the only legit kind, when the very relationship you are explaining - I.E - a man and a woman - is a heterosexual relationship??

 

Oh shoot, were the Geoffrey pages really a legit porno?

 

1 hour ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Guys, guys, clearly this just means Geoffery was a woman this whole time.

Ch'yeah.

1 hour ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

GEOFFREY WAS A SINGLE MOTHER!!!!!!!

He had a kid?

27 minutes ago, Skull Leader said:

Well, that didn't take long. I suppose he's still holding the same beer.

Oh, you saw this cumin, did you?

24 minutes ago, tailsBOOM! said:

Ken Penders trying to take down DC with him:

 

Uh, was it psychologists or just average wiseguys on the street?

33 minutes ago, tailsBOOM! said:

 

Also, am I only one who did a double take on the bottom that left message?

23 minutes ago, tailsBOOM! said:

I lost it at this:

That is going to be a copypasta, calling it.

There is, like, five different kudoses going on in this conversation, I can't even! :joy:

[horridus]

6 minutes ago, Meta77 said:

I am in no way going to try and defend Ken as he screwed up the Archie comic horribly toward the end. But lets not kid ourselves trying to paint sonic characters used in the fandom as a innocent place for kids. I can go on pixiv right now. Type Amy Rose and get some of the most insane nsfw art ive seen since well last week lol.  I was wondering why twitter said ken was trending today.

You are right. The Sonic fandom is indeed a less than innocent place. There's just one slight problem here- Penders isn't 'the fandom'. He's a former writer for an official, licensed spin-off comic book. A book aimed at children, as part of a franchise of children's video games and directly meant to promote a Saturday morning cartoon. This is him going on about how he WANTED to have his twenty year old character to be the one to de-virginize a sixteen year old female lead in the book. And then, when called out on it, twisting his mind into a warped, deformed ouroboros of faulty logic in order to defend his frankly indefensible actions. 

To be blunt, using what goes on in the wider fandom as a means of diminishing what Penders has admitted to is at best weak and at worse disingenuous. The subject of the age gap and consent is a thorny one and difficult to address in any forum, let alone this one. That doesn't change the fact that Penders earnestly wanted an adult and a minor together, and has gone so far as to bring THIS to our attention because he feels so strongly about it. What's more, it is not even a misguided and creepy attempt at romance- I would bet you any amount of money that it's all about allow his pet character the 'privilege' of nailing the main female lead of the book, and simply further confirmation of just how little the character of Sally mattered to him on any level beyond serving as a prize to be fought over. 

And again, this is not a fan. This is not the fandom. This is a man who once worked on an official tie-in product. Who is now talking about his desire to have HIS character have sex with an underage character. All in the name of 'proving' that he's really a Big Boy writer and not someone who wrote for a children's book. There is no END to just how catastrophically grotesque this all is, and invoking the fandom is not enough to cushion the blow. 

2 minutes ago, tailsBOOM! said:

Ken Penders trying to take down DC with him:

 

....welp, so much for that great reverance for the comic creators of the past. 

See folks, what he's referencing here is something that was pushed in a book called "Seduction of the Innocent", by Frederic Wertham. Wertham was a psychiatrist in the USA who pushed forth a series of studies that infamously claimed turned kids into Juvenile DElinquents. Among the many, deeply erroneous observations he made, one of them was that Batman and Robin were 'clearly' gay, something that never really left the public consciousness. He also claimed enjoyment of Superman was due to enjoyment of the idea of being able to hurt others without being hurt in return, and so on and so forth. His actions helped create the Comic Codes Authority, which in turn basically lead to comic books in the US undergoing massive amounts of censorship that lasted for decades. It pretty much wiped out horror comics in the US, and many people lost their livelihoods because of his actions. 

Now, Penders actually invoking THIS of all things is a very, very deep betrayal of the ideals he claims to hold dear, because giving stock to this kind of claptrap is the precise kind of thing he tends to rail against. ESPECIALLY since, again, that sentiment arose thanks to a paper published by a psychiatrist rather than Bob Kane and Bill Finger admitting in an interview that they wanted Batman to be sleeping with Robin. 

At this stage I am almost hopeful that he is in fact conning us all, because I refuse to believe any comic fan with even a hint of self-respect would invoke Frederic Wertham and his work as a means of shielding themselves from criticism over their own ill-advised actions. 

[ShadowSJG]

.............just......I have no words for this..........urgh.....I thought this guy couldn't get any more.....urgh

Like, this guy needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. Literally no one wanted this

[SBR2]

2 hours ago, tailsBOOM! said:

Ken Penders trying to take down DC with him:

 

Holy Shit is he really bringing Seduction of the Innocent, a book that is complete bullshit nobody in their right mind believes, into this?

[horridus]

2 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

Holy Shit is he really bringing Seduction of the Innocent, a book that is complete bullshit nobody in their right mind believes, into this?

Why yes, the lifelong comic book fan is using a book that demonizes comics as a corrupting influence in order to defend himself. Words fail me as well.

[ShadowSJG]

Does he think what would an idiot say and that's what he decides to say?

[ShadowSJG]

It's bizzare when  he says stuff like, do you know how many people wanted this or something.....like....what?

[Shaddy Zaphod]

The man will do and say anything for attention. I think we've known this for a while now.

 

Can't say I expected to see him defending obvious case of statutory rape tonight though.

[Scritch the Cat]

3 hours ago, tailsBOOM! said:

Ken Penders trying to take down DC with him:

 

What the flying fuck?!  Batman and Robin being gay lovers was not "pointed out"; it was alleged and resulted in the creation of Batwoman in reaction.

[Kellodrawsalot]

Even his biggest fans are left speechless or just quite. 

[Dejimon11]

So @Ratcicle King said it best: Pender's is like JK Rowling but for a property he doesn't own. 

Seriously the guy has become so self absorbed so egotistical to the point where I don't think he's in the right state of mind. No sane human being would say shit like this and that it was a good idea. As funny as this has been maybe it's best that we should ignore him because this is all he has going for him.

[Asin Korber]

10 hours ago, Tylinos said:

Just as a reminder, based on ages Ken himself gave during the book's run, Sally would have been 16, while Geoffrey would have been 22.

Pardon my French, but what the flying fuck, Penders.

[Celestia]

Come on, the Rowling comparisons aren't fair at all.

Penders was already like this long before she really started putting her foot in her mouth.

[herefor1reason]

Y'know, I give the writers of the modern games a lot of shit (and I will CONTINUE) but MAN am I glad it's not Penders writing them. I shudder to imagine it.

[Tylinos]

And now he's decided he wants there to be absolutely no ambiguity or confusion on the subject; He believes sex between a 16 year old and a 20 year old is perfectly fine.

Of course, even as awful as that statement is, it's irrelevant since Geoffrey was actually 22.

The comics (as written by Ken) said the events around Endgame were set in 3236.  Sally's Data File said she was born in 3220 (making her 16), while Geoffrey's Data File that Ken recently released himself for TLSC says he was born in 3214 (making him 22).

I shouldn't be surprised that Ken can't even remember information he recently released himself.

[Scritch the Cat]

3 hours ago, Dejimon11 said:

So @Ratcicle King said it best: Pender's is like JK Rowling but for a property he doesn't own. 

Seriously the guy has become so self absorbed so egotistical to the point where I don't think he's in the right state of mind. No sane human being would say shit like this and that it was a good idea. As funny as this has been maybe it's best that we should ignore him because this is all he has going for him.

I say nuts to that!  This troll needs to be fed until he at last shits out The Lara Su Chronicles; then the world can have perhaps the greatest laugh yet!

[Splash the Otter]

41 minutes ago, Tylinos said:

Of course, even as awful as that statement is, it's irrelevant since Geoffrey was actually 22.

The comics (as written by Ken) said the events around Endgame were set in 3236.  Sally's Data File said she was born in 3220 (making her 16), while Geoffrey's Data File that Ken recently released himself for TLSC says he was born in 3214 (making him 22).

I always thought he was 18 myself. Guess I was wrong.

[Tylinos]

Actually, another conversation elsewhere reminded me of something: We saw Sonic's 16th birthday in Issue #68.  And from Sonic's Data File, we know he's a few weeks older than Sally.  Which means Sally was only 15 around the time of Endgame.

So, uh, yeah.  22 year old Geoffrey and 15 year old Sally.  More than a bit worse than 20 and 16.

[King Scoopa Koopa]

5 hours ago, ShadowSJG said:

Does he think what would an idiot say and that's what he decides to say?

I don't think he even has to think about it. Exhibit A:

1 hour ago, Tylinos said:

 

I mean, technically speaking, he seems to be right -- it wouldn't be pedophilia.

It would be statutory rape.

Not something I'd point and yell "Gotcha!" about, but then, I'm not Ken.

[BlueSpeedster]

what the shit just happened.

[horridus]

A 50+ old man, in a desperate and deeply idiotic attempt to be seen as a 'legitimate' writer opined how the only story he 'could not' write for a children's book was the one where a twenty year old would be permitted to deflower a sixteen year old.... who, by the math of the book, would actually have been FIFTEEN years old. He has since been very desperately trying to cover his ass as people repeatedly call him out and criticize him over his bafflingly idiotic decision to reveal such information.