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3 hours ago, KingScoopaKoopa said:

Er, what tweet?

The only reason he kept Nack in the book was so he could create another clone of a SEGA character? What?

It was the tweet above when he claimed about a fast one

8 hours ago, Mr Silvia said:

Here's a couple of things on topic - 

A little bit of info on why he created Nic the Weasel 

 

And, shockingly, something related to TLSC that I didn't know about, a new character!

 

 

 

 

Another Echidna, how quaint. At least compared to the 8th of last month... This really is Geoffrey St. John Chronicles at this point, isn't it?

So in other words he wanted to created 64 nick the weasel 

3 hours ago, KingScoopaKoopa said:

Er, what tweet?

The only reason he kept Nack in the book was so he could create another clone of a SEGA character? What?

He wanted to create a rule 64 version of nack the weasel

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9 hours ago, Mr Silvia said:

Here's a couple of things on topic - 

A little bit of info on why he created Nic the Weasel 

 

 

Wait, I don't get the correlation.

9 hours ago, Mr Silvia said:

And, shockingly, something related to TLSC that I didn't know about, a new character!

 

 

 

 

Another Echidna, how quaint. At least compared to the 8th of last month... This really is Geoffrey St. John Chronicles at this point, isn't it?

His M? Is that James Bond reference or something I wouldn't get?

Anyway, it sounds like he was just gonna have him be another Echydnya, but then Fridge Logic denoted that, as an ally of Geoffrey and thus the Kingdom of Acorn, he would have to be something different.
 

4 hours ago, KingScoopaKoopa said:

Er, what tweet?

The only reason he kept Nack in the book was so he could create another clone of a SEGA character? What?

I think he means it gave him a mold to establish Nic's character.

Did he write any of Nack's prior appearances, btw?

2 hours ago, horridus said:

It gave him reason to create a sister who for all intents and purposes is essentially a genderbent clone of her brother? You know, the more this guy reveals his thought process, the more I wonder if his incessant need to seemingly pile relatives on to various characters was simply his way of trying to instantly give those characters some kind of relevancy without having to build them up. 

Essentially.

 

1 hour ago, Alpineredoubt said:

It was the tweet above when he claimed about a fast one

So in other words he wanted to created 64 nick the weasel 

He wanted to create a rule 64 version of nack the weasel

It's 63.

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1 hour ago, DabigRG said:

Wait, I don't get the correlation.

His M? Is that James Bond reference or something I wouldn't get?

Anyway, it sounds like he was just gonna have him be another Echydnya, but then Fridge Logic denoted that, as an ally of Geoffrey and thus the Kingdom of Acorn, he would have to be something different.
 

I think he means it gave him a mold to establish Nic's character.

Did he write any of Nack's prior appearances, btw?

Essentially.

 

It's 63.

Same I here I stillness don’t see it as well 

i thought it was rule 64 it was male turning female or something lol

also yeah that might be 007 reference 

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1 hour ago, DabigRG said:

His M? Is that James Bond reference or something I wouldn't get?

Yeah. Q being the tech guy, and M being the organization's head who assigns missions. I guess Geoffrey leads this Royal Secret Service?

I never really read the comics or even watched SatAM, so these characters don't mean much to me.

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55 minutes ago, BaronGrackle said:

Yeah. Q being the tech guy, and M being the organization's head who assigns missions. I guess Geoffrey leads this Royal Secret Service?

I never really read the comics or even watched SatAM, so these characters don't mean much to me.

Thank you

1 hour ago, Ernest the Panda said:

I understand the confusion since rule 34 is the other one.

Thanks for the clear up

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12 hours ago, Mr Silvia said:

And, shockingly, something related to TLSC that I didn't know about, a new character!

 

 

 

 

Another Echidna, how quaint. At least compared to the 8th of last month... This really is Geoffrey St. John Chronicles at this point, isn't it?

Y'know the more he says he had story details ironed out but then says he just changed something the less I think he actually has things ironed out. 

Like I'm no writer but like shouldn't you have your details worked out before you start writing? 

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2 hours ago, BaronGrackle said:

Yeah. Q being the tech guy, and M being the organization's head who assigns missions. I guess Geoffrey leads this Royal Secret Service?

I never really read the comics or even watched SatAM, so these characters don't mean much to me.

Oooh, okay. That makes sense.

51 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

Y'know the more he says he had story details ironed out but then says he just changed something the less I think he actually has things ironed out. 

Like I'm no writer but like shouldn't you have your details worked out before you start writing? 

That's how it goes at times.

Generally speaking, there's typically a somewhat lengthy outline of key plot points and character arcs that gets elaborated on and adjusted on as the creative team sees fit.

In this case, it depends on just how much Geoffrey is actually in this.

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6 hours ago, BaronGrackle said:

Yeah. Q being the tech guy, and M being the organization's head who assigns missions. I guess Geoffrey leads this Royal Secret Service?

I never really read the comics or even watched SatAM, so these characters don't mean much to me.

I share the feeling and honestly, you're making yourself a favor since basically, Penders treated the game cast as if it wasn't good enough compared to his own "superior" creations.

Speaking of which, I imagine that as soon as any of the Archie staff came up with new characters of their own, Kenny boy would waste no time to undermine them too. I mean, just reading how proud he was of Geoffrey (aka Pepe le Pedo) acting like some kind of Chad that had relations with an underage Sally before Sonic essentially paints the whole picture of how he handled things.

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6 hours ago, Legendary Emerald said:

Not at all. Writing is a very fluid process for most people.But should you have your details worked out before you start drawing panels for your comic's issue 1? For god's sake, yes.

Writing is fun for me. I may look at what I wrote a day later and shuffle things around a bit because I thought of something better or don't like the direction or even the premise of what I was doing any longer but that's only natural. It's never a good thing to just have an idea and immediately start drawing it without any thought of where it's going. That's going to lead to regret down the line in most cases.

Maybe not if you're Penders though. Maybe he just thinks everything he writes and draws is gold.

Literal liquid gold spills from the ink of his pen. That's how golden his shit is...

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52 minutes ago, Skull Leader said:

I share the feeling and honestly, you're making yourself a favor since basically, Penders treated the game cast as if it wasn't good enough compared to his own "superior" creations.

Speaking of which, I imagine that as soon as any of the Archie staff came up with new characters of their own, Kenny boy would waste no time to undermine them too. I mean, just reading how proud he was of Geoffrey (aka Pepe le Pedo) acting like some kind of Chad that had relations with an underage Sally before Sonic essentially paints the whole picture of how he handled things.

Lol on the Pepe thing 

and yea he does treat people like garbage both in real life and in the comic

1 hour ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

I'm suspecting that this Dr. Zephyr might be a Dr. Finitevus-clone since Finitevus is owned by Karl Bollers.

He was the one with the black eye thing right?

5 hours ago, SBR2 said:

Y'know the more he says he had story details ironed out but then says he just changed something the less I think he actually has things ironed out. 

Like I'm no writer but like shouldn't you have your details worked out before you start writing? 

Yes he should of planned things out much better

11 minutes ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Writing is fun for me. I may look at what I wrote a day later and shuffle things around a bit because I thought of something better or don't like the direction or even the premise of what I was doing any longer but that's only natural. It's never a good thing to just have an idea and immediately start drawing it without any thought of where it's going. That's going to lead to regret down the line in most cases.

Maybe not if you're Penders though. Maybe he just thinks everything he writes and draws is gold.

Literal liquid gold spills from the ink of his pen. That's how golden his shit is...

Yeah and gold is fools gold and it is truly shit

5 hours ago, DabigRG said:

Oooh, okay. That makes sense.

That's how it goes at times.

Generally speaking, there's typically a somewhat lengthy outline of key plot points and character arcs that gets elaborated on and adjusted on as the creative team sees fit.

In this case, it depends on just how much Geoffrey is actually in this.

He still needs publish his script or something to show the whole world on this is story being legit

5 hours ago, Legendary Emerald said:

Not at all. Writing is a very fluid process for most people.But should you have your details worked out before you start drawing panels for your comic's issue 1? For god's sake, yes.

Ken needs show us the progress he made more clearly to his audience 

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Ken, the reason Ian stated that the Robo-Robotniks in #19 and #22 were different wasn't to "cover up for Archie"; It was to fix a plothole you and Karl created, because unlike you guys, Ian actually cared about creating a consistent world.  Heck, his logic that it's to cover up for Archie doesn't even make sense to begin with, since both Robo-Robotniks were created by Ken, so it wouldn't change who created what.  Ken seriously can't even remember what he actually did in the series.

Also, good to see Ken is still trying to claim ownership over literally Dr. Eggman.

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1 hour ago, SatAMhog said:

Just a quick question--if Ken were writing the current Metal Virus Storyline in IDW, what would his version of Dr. Starline look like?

It'd be a nightmare trying to tell which characters were supposed to be robo-zombies and which ones weren't. They all look like they hunger for sentient flesh.

I'm sure Ken will edit the Wiki to say that Starline totally did it with Amy or something. Then when Amy's age gets pointed out he'll say "Well, in hedgehog years..."

1 hour ago, Tylinos said:

Ken, the reason Ian stated that the Robo-Robotniks in #19 and #22 were different wasn't to "cover up for Archie"; It was to fix a plothole you and Karl created, because unlike you guys, Ian actually cared about creating a consistent world.  Heck, his logic that it's to cover up for Archie doesn't even make sense to begin with, since both Robo-Robotniks were created by Ken, so it wouldn't change who created what.  Ken seriously can't even remember what he actually did in the series.

Also, good to see Ken is still trying to claim ownership over literally Dr. Eggman.

I'm actually in the middle of reading some of the earlier stuff and I've shot past the introduction of Robo-Robotnik. I'm like on Issue 31. I don't know which plot-hole this is though. I think I may have missed something if there was one. 

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1 minute ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

I'm actually in the middle of reading some of the earlier stuff and I've shot past the introduction of Robo-Robotnik. I'm like on Issue 31. I don't know which plot-hole this is though. I think I may have missed something if there was one. 

In Issue 22, it was made extremely clear by Ken that the Robo-Robotnik in that issue was different from the one in Issue 19.  In Issue 75, when Robo-Robotnik returned, he stated he was the same one from both issues, which created a plothole.  This Robo-Robotnik then became Eggman.

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1 hour ago, Tylinos said:

In Issue 22, it was made extremely clear by Ken that the Robo-Robotnik in that issue was different from the one in Issue 19.  In Issue 75, when Robo-Robotnik returned, he stated he was the same one from both issues, which created a plothole.  This Robo-Robotnik then became Eggman.

Alright. I knew Robo-Robotnik eventually becomes Eggman but I forgot that detail about him saying he was a different Robo-Robotnik...

... Is... Is there a reason he had him be a different Robo-Robotnik? 

Why make two Robo-Robotniks? 

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32 minutes ago, Tylinos said:

Ken, the reason Ian stated that the Robo-Robotniks in #19 and #22 were different wasn't to "cover up for Archie"; It was to fix a plothole you and Karl created, because unlike you guys, Ian actually cared about creating a consistent world.  Heck, his logic that it's to cover up for Archie doesn't even make sense to begin with, since both Robo-Robotniks were created by Ken, so it wouldn't change who created what.  Ken seriously can't even remember what he actually did in the series.

Also, good to see Ken is still trying to claim ownership over literally Dr. Eggman.

Boy. All those times he talks about stuff being 'water under the bridge' and trying to appear like he doesn't resent Flynn, and then something like THIS comes up and that thin, thin veneer of civility is just torn off in an instant. And over something so goddamned minor. Like, seriously, why does he even CARE enough to comment on this?? It's a minor continuity screw-up that FLynn fixed, and yet Penders STILL can't stop himself from acting like a vindictive prick about it. Sheesh. 

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9 minutes ago, horridus said:

Boy. All those times he talks about stuff being 'water under the bridge' and trying to appear like he doesn't resent Flynn, and then something like THIS comes up and that thin, thin veneer of civility is just torn off in an instant. And over something so goddamned minor. Like, seriously, why does he even CARE enough to comment on this?? It's a minor continuity screw-up that FLynn fixed, and yet Penders STILL can't stop himself from acting like a vindictive prick about it. Sheesh. 

"HOW DARE ANYONE VIOLATE MY CHARACTERS LIKE THIS" Ken screams while violently drawing a goatee on Knuckles.

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1 hour ago, SatAMhog said:

Just a quick question--if Ken were writing the current Metal Virus Storyline in IDW, what would his version of Dr. Starline look like?

He could kill off sonic as big middle finger to sega

35 minutes ago, CleverSonicUsername said:

"HOW DARE ANYONE VIOLATE MY CHARACTERS LIKE THIS" Ken screams while violently drawing a goatee on Knuckles.

Ken let it go

1 hour ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Alright. I knew Robo-Robotnik eventually becomes Eggman but I forgot that detail about him saying he was a different Robo-Robotnik...

... Is... Is there a reason he had him be a different Robo-Robotnik? 

Why make two Robo-Robotniks? 

I know the reason 

the kool aid man is red

idk

1 hour ago, Tylinos said:

In Issue 22, it was made extremely clear by Ken that the Robo-Robotnik in that issue was different from the one in Issue 19.  In Issue 75, when Robo-Robotnik returned, he stated he was the same one from both issues, which created a plothole.  This Robo-Robotnik then became Eggman.

Ok

1 hour ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

It'd be a nightmare trying to tell which characters were supposed to be robo-zombies and which ones weren't. They all look like they hunger for sentient flesh.

I'm sure Ken will edit the Wiki to say that Starline totally did it with Amy or something. Then when Amy's age gets pointed out he'll say "Well, in hedgehog years..."

I'm actually in the middle of reading some of the earlier stuff and I've shot past the introduction of Robo-Robotnik. I'm like on Issue 31. I don't know which plot-hole this is though. I think I may have missed something if there was one. 

Ken is just attention whore for all we know

46 minutes ago, horridus said:

Boy. All those times he talks about stuff being 'water under the bridge' and trying to appear like he doesn't resent Flynn, and then something like THIS comes up and that thin, thin veneer of civility is just torn off in an instant. And over something so goddamned minor. Like, seriously, why does he even CARE enough to comment on this?? It's a minor continuity screw-up that FLynn fixed, and yet Penders STILL can't stop himself from acting like a vindictive prick about it. Sheesh. 

Ken just needs to stop 

insert filthy frank quote here

1 hour ago, Tylinos said:

Ken, the reason Ian stated that the Robo-Robotniks in #19 and #22 were different wasn't to "cover up for Archie"; It was to fix a plothole you and Karl created, because unlike you guys, Ian actually cared about creating a consistent world.  Heck, his logic that it's to cover up for Archie doesn't even make sense to begin with, since both Robo-Robotniks were created by Ken, so it wouldn't change who created what.  Ken seriously can't even remember what he actually did in the series.

Also, good to see Ken is still trying to claim ownership over literally Dr. Eggman.

Dammit Ken just stop

1 hour ago, Tylinos said:

In Issue 22, it was made extremely clear by Ken that the Robo-Robotnik in that issue was different from the one in Issue 19.  In Issue 75, when Robo-Robotnik returned, he stated he was the same one from both issues, which created a plothole.  This Robo-Robotnik then became Eggman.

Thank you 

1 hour ago, Ryannumber1gamer said:

He would probably outshine Eggman and eventually take over the arc.

And try claim credit for eggman

1 hour ago, Tylinos said:

Ken, the reason Ian stated that the Robo-Robotniks in #19 and #22 were different wasn't to "cover up for Archie"; It was to fix a plothole you and Karl created, because unlike you guys, Ian actually cared about creating a consistent world.  Heck, his logic that it's to cover up for Archie doesn't even make sense to begin with, since both Robo-Robotniks were created by Ken, so it wouldn't change who created what.  Ken seriously can't even remember what he actually did in the series.

Also, good to see Ken is still trying to claim ownership over literally Dr. Eggman.

Ken needs to stop sooner or later it will end badly for him or his health

1 hour ago, SatAMhog said:

Just a quick question--if Ken were writing the current Metal Virus Storyline in IDW, what would his version of Dr. Starline look like?

He will kill sonic maybe

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1 hour ago, horridus said:

Boy. All those times he talks about stuff being 'water under the bridge' and trying to appear like he doesn't resent Flynn, and then something like THIS comes up and that thin, thin veneer of civility is just torn off in an instant. And over something so goddamned minor. Like, seriously, why does he even CARE enough to comment on this?? It's a minor continuity screw-up that FLynn fixed, and yet Penders STILL can't stop himself from acting like a vindictive prick about it. Sheesh. 

Being honest about his role in this would undoubtedly lead him to needing to admit he made a mistake. I'm afraid not commenting on this is not an option.

His dignity would be shattered if people found out he forgot that he pointlessly wrote in two Robo-Robotniks.

Now if you'll excuse him, he's got a wiki to edit so that it can say his fan-character porked Sally Acorn. 

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1 hour ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Alright. I knew Robo-Robotnik eventually becomes Eggman but I forgot that detail about him saying he was a different Robo-Robotnik...

... Is... Is there a reason he had him be a different Robo-Robotnik? 

Why make two Robo-Robotniks? 

Actually, this whole thing reminds me of the three (?) robotic Sonics from Sonic 2, Sonic CD, and S&K.

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6 hours ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

I'm suspecting that this Dr. Zephyr might be a Dr. Finitevus-clone since Finitevus is owned by Karl Bollers.

Eh, I doubt it. 

5 hours ago, Alpineredoubt said:

 

He was the one with the black eye thing right?

 

The albino mummy. 

3 hours ago, SatAMhog said:

Just a quick question--if Ken were writing the current Metal Virus Storyline in IDW, what would his version of Dr. Starline look like?

Considering Starline already looks inherently iffy at times, it'd probably even out.

3 hours ago, Ryannumber1gamer said:

He would probably outshine Eggman and eventually take over the arc.

 He was talking about the design. 

2 hours ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Alright. I knew Robo-Robotnik eventually becomes Eggman but I forgot that detail about him saying he was a different Robo-Robotnik...

... Is... Is there a reason he had him be a different Robo-Robotnik? 

Why make two Robo-Robotniks? 

It's been a good blog while, but didn't the first one get torn apart by an army of Sonics? 

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