Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice

[Tails spin]

I'm enjoying the game so far. A marked improvement to shattered Crystal. Baby steps but I think if they get another game they can take the good from this game and improve on it just like they did for this one.

[Ryusuke]

2 hours ago, Soni said:

I mean, Eggman's new Japanese voice actor was already known if you look at the credits in the Rio Olympics games.

Ahh, I assumed that was reused stuff. Guess not. Thanks!

[Jeffhog]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but... guys.

Knuckles is at it again.

 

[Cyrus]

With how tongue and cheek Sonic Boom tends to be, and that meta joke about merch, I feel like this is an intentional easter egg...

[Graystripe2000]

Okay, @VEDJ-F went to GAME to pick up a LEGO Dimensions pack and went to see if they had Fire and Ice. Not only did they not have it, they seem to have never ORDERED it. Despite that, it's on GAME's UK site. 

http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product2?msg=&searchCount=1&showResultsPage=true&predictiveSearchURL=&beginIndex=0&langId=44&productId=1328046&sType=SimpleSearch&pageSize=40&resultCatEntryType=2&pageView=image&searchBtn=z&searchTerm=Sonic+Boom+Fire+and+Ice&catalogId=10201&DM_PersistentCookieCreated=true&storeId=10151&ddkey=http:AjaxCatalogSearch

This may indicate a late shipment. However, @Stasis went to Toy R Us in Hanley to look at Sonic merchandise and pick up the game. They didn't have any copies of it, but plenty of Shattered Crystal. Again, it was on TYU UK site. 

http://www.toysrus.co.uk/pdp/product.jsp?productId=TRUP1774100001&_requestid=491789

@Ernest-Panda also said the GAME he went to didn't have it. Has anyone in the U.K. had better luck seeing it in retail stores? 

https://board.sonicstadium.org/profile/2604-vedj-f/?status=829387&type=status

Nintendo of Europe is responsible for distribution of the game in Europe, so if anyone is to blame besides the retailers, it would probably be them. 

[Mad Convoy]

I imagine the people running the store didn't anticipate much demand for the game considering how poorly its predecessor, SC, sold. I especially suspect this for the Toys R Us considering how many copies of SC were apparently still laying around at that store. And if there's little to no demand, the store is losing money by stocking it, making it pointless to order in the first place. Hopefully they'll hear from the customers that there is indeed enough demand to turn a profit and order some copies soon. If not, well, their loss. You'll just have to find some online retailer to get it.

2 hours ago, Cyrus said:

With how tongue and cheek Sonic Boom tends to be, and that meta joke about merch, I feel like this is an intentional easter egg...

Well, it doesn't seem like the type of thing a developer would put in on purpose and they haven't really joked about it much in the past (the closest I think Boom got to making a flying Knuckles joke was in one of Knuckles's fantasies in the TV show and that wasn't even intended as a reference to the glitch). I think it is really something Sanzaru didn't intend to include. Though I would find it pretty funny if the people behind Sonic Boom decided to just be like "screw it" and make flying Knuckles a running gag. Or if Sanzaru and/or Sega tried to pass it off like they meant to include it in F&I.

[Stasis]

Had a look in Tesco on the way home from dropping my girlfriend off. No Fire and Ice there either :s not in any rush to buy it though as I don't even know where my 3DS is right now haha

[Graystripe2000]

Guess it makes since with Tesco because their site says "currently unavailable". 

http://www.tesco.com/direct/sonic-boom-fire-ice-3ds/246-2827.prd?source=others

[Boomer]

I hadn't seen it in either GAME nor Tesco.

[goku262002]

6 hours ago, Jeffhog said:

I can't believe I'm saying this, but... guys.

Knuckles is at it again.

 

I love the fact that even though in the Boom canon Knuckles can't glide the games will inherently make it so he will.

Hes born to fly, make it so SEGA!

[Sonikko]

14 hours ago, goku262002 said:

I love the fact that even though in the Boom canon Knuckles can't glide the games will inherently make it so he will.

Hes born to fly, make it so SEGA!

You stole my words, I was about to post that ahahahha!

[pppp]

Finished it and basically it's a mediocre game. Not good, not bad, just a massive flaming ball of adequacy.

If we're supposed to get another Boom game, I can only hope it has really different gameplay, cause this style makes the games very repetitive.

[Pixel]

It looks better than Shattered Crystal, but it still doesn't have correct physics or excellent level design.

It has exceeded my very low expectations, but the game still looks sub-par to me.

[PickleBrows]

On 02/10/2016 at 11:14 AM, Pixel said:

It looks better than Shattered Crystal, but it still doesn't have correct physics or excellent level design.

I don't know about "correct physics". The game doesn't function like the classics at all with the exception of Sonic now having a useful spindash again but then it's not trying to be. 

Something like Sonic 4 got such flack for its physics not just because it didn't even try to replicate to momentum-based gameplay of the classics but because, even as its own thing, the physics had no logical sense to them. Sonic had no sense of weight or inertia; unable to carry himself under his own speed without the player holding the direction.

The classic mechanics wouldn't really fit the Boom 3DS gameplay with its more stop-start nature. Characters can stop a little easier than one might expect (the run button probably has something to do with that) but they do indeed respond naturally to input. Running off of a ledge at speed will make you fall in an arc like it should and objects like springs and enderbeam swings will actually launch characters according to gravity instead of whether the player is holding left or right.

Sonic 4 ditched the classic physics and replaced them with...well, almost literally nothing. Fire & Ice sets its own boundaries for how its physics work but behaves logically within them.

 

[Graystripe2000]

Since another day has passed, I may as well ask about this since someone else will eventually bring this up: Has anyone in the U.K. found Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice or Fast Racing NEO in the retail stores over there as of today?

[PickleBrows]

3 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

Since another day has passed, I may as well ask about this since someone else will eventually bring this up: Has anyone in the U.K. found Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice or Fast Racing NEO in the retail stores over there as of today?

I can say that Fire and Ice is ready to buy in Glasgow City Centre with other shops in the city apparently stocking it but with few numbers. I honestly couldn't tell you about NEO though.

[Salamander]

Shattered Crystal was not exactly a bestseller, so I can understand them not printing many copies of F&I, or shops not ordering many.

[Graystripe2000]

So @VEDJ-F still can't find the game at any of his local stores. One he talked didn't see hide nor hair of it. 

https://board.sonicstadium.org/profile/2604-vedj-f/?status=830590&type=status

[FriendBot]

Wait. V is a dude?!

Here I thought V was a she all this time. 

But yeah, very strange 

[Your Vest Friend]

I am female.

But I don't see how that relates to this game. 

[FriendBot]

I was pointing out the error in a comedic fashion

But that's besides the point as you said, really what the heck is going on with the distribution for this game in U.K.?!

[Your Vest Friend]

We'll probably find out on Monday when the charts are updated. 

[Graystripe2000]

35 minutes ago, VEDJ-F said:

We'll probably find out on Monday when the charts are updated. 

Speaking of that, do Sonic games ever really make it to the U.K. charts (and I mean besides the Mario and Sonic game released earlier this year)?

[Your Vest Friend]

They do, actually. Even Lost World made it in low, and that was a surprise back then because it was expected to be higher. 

[Your Vest Friend]

Charts are in for the UK. 

Apparently it entered last week, but didn't see it whoops.

Anyway, it never got to the overall sales chart, but it debuted in the 3DS chart at #10, and fell to #12 this week.