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1 hour ago, batson said:

My headcanons:

There is only one planet, where both humans and anthros live.

Classic Sonic is modern Sonic from the past, they are not different characters.

This should be regular canon honestly.

Here's another headcanon. The Tornado isn't exactly Sonic's plane, it's just a random propeller plane he came across when he was running around on Christmas Island one day. He asked his animal friends and looked around the place but found no owner for the mysterious plane. Being the impulsive adventurer he is, Sonic claimed the plane for himself and used it as his ticket off the quaint island in search of excitement. After flying to Westside Island on one of his adventures, he eventually met a certain fox who would become the Tornado's mechanic and new pilot.

If they ever found the original owner, Sonic and Tails would be fine with giving the plane back (possibly with Tails rebuilding it in its original form too) since Tails can just build another one from scratch anyway.

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I always liked to think that when Eggman is in the Mystic Ruins at the start of the Super Sonic story in Adventure, when he says "But I bet he can't foil my master plan!" he was talking about going to the military base to free Shadow. He sounds quite surprised to see Chaos, after all, so he could be referring to anything and it felt like a good way to bridge the two games.

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Me: Ah yes Sonic, I remember him.

Me 5 minutes later:

I’ve always kind of taken for granted that Sonic The Hedgehog will die in battle.

He will refuse to stop, and eventually he’ll just kind of... get too old to defeat the next big evil that comes knocking. If he retires, he wont be young-at-heart. He’ll never grow up.

 

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One of the many ways Eggman gets the funds for his schemes is by selling mass produced machines, electronic appliances, security robots and other doodads. People don't always trust him (and for good reason) but the quality and quantity of his products are excellent compared to many mainstream companies so his machines usually end up selling well. Eggman has sometimes used these machines as part of his evil plans, like having a signal to turn appliances into dangerous robots, causing a facility's security robots to malfunction and stay out of his way etc. But most of the time he really doesn't have any ulterior motives other than making money so his products are generally reliable enough to supply him with a steady income to fund his real schemes with.

This headcanon is kinda supported by Sonic Boom, in which Eggman has his own company, Eggman Industries, which sells various machines designed and/or built by Eggman and his minions. So I kinda see Game Eggman doing that too, if only to gain funds for his attempts at conquering the world. (Though he would probably sell even more things after conquering the world as he'd monopolize global trade to only have products centered around him and his preferences)

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I don't think Eggman needs many funds for his plans... he has an army of robots that can build wathever in a matter of minutes, and I'm sure that he can extract the resources he needs (even from other planets/worlds) and get what he wants in that way without need of money (though he builds casino so maybe he needs some funds after all, or maybe it's just part of his obsession of wanting to build Eggmanland).

Also I think that the world's governments don't try to capture him because he's too powerful and no military organization can compete with his technology (GUN is the closest one but even that was unable to stop him), so they just avoid him and only in case he attacks, they try to defend themselves as much as they can.

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On 5/4/2020 at 2:42 PM, Sonario said:

One of the many ways Eggman gets the funds for his schemes is by selling mass produced machines, electronic appliances, security robots and other doodads. People don't always trust him (and for good reason) but the quality and quantity of his products are excellent compared to many mainstream companies so his machines usually end up selling well. Eggman has sometimes used these machines as part of his evil plans, like having a signal to turn appliances into dangerous robots, causing a facility's security robots to malfunction and stay out of his way etc. But most of the time he really doesn't have any ulterior motives other than making money so his products are generally reliable enough to supply him with a steady income to fund his real schemes with.

This headcanon is kinda supported by Sonic Boom, in which Eggman has his own company, Eggman Industries, which sells various machines designed and/or built by Eggman and his minions. So I kinda see Game Eggman doing that too, if only to gain funds for his attempts at conquering the world. (Though he would probably sell even more things after conquering the world as he'd monopolize global trade to only have products centered around him and his preferences)

I love this. 

I remember the first time playing Adventure 2, when you see Eggman's broadcast to the world, he was a known entity -- people knew "Dr. Eggman" so I always had that sort of itch in my mind like, it's kinda fun if he's this sort of Willy Wonka / Elon Musk figure to the general public, but also kind of like... sort of like how Donald Trump was publicly before he was president, but if he was actually smart and did robotics instead of real estate. Like a buffoon who is somehow present as a very big narcissistic figure with his media/real estate or media/robotics empire. 

I loved that Sonic Mania's story showed us Eggman's media factories  -- both Studiopolis and Press Garden.  There's so much story potential in Eggman TV, what that looks like. Usually Eggman has always been fixated on the theme park of Eggmanland or Robotnikland but it's fun to consider that there must be other aspects to his "empire" aside from just factories that make robot slaves and flying ships.

It's brilliant that Eggman would have tons of patent monopolies and other cheats to secure exclusive rights to advanced-smart tech. Smart phone -> genius phone, etc. Eggman is like Sega -- ahead of the curve but also it never works; it breaks, or it's over priced or under utilized or whatever. Eggman always has one major flaw that brings it down. Everyone knows Eggman's products are shit, but you sort of have to put up with it. Like a more evil and less competent Apple, or EA Sports.

"Buying an egg" is for consumer electronics like "buying a lemon" is for a busted car

(btw I never thought before to think of Eggman as Elon Musk + Donald Trump but that's... kind of exactly who he is. Musk's robotic genius/ambition + Trump's cruel thirst for ultimate narcissistic power, built on the backs of his minions while he sits on his butt, plus being fat/bald with weird hair and head shape, and still somehow being occasionally charming/funny in his villainy)

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I love the idea of "Egg" instead of "Apple" in the Mobius version of electronics, and I think it works better too if you combine a bit of the relationship between robots and consumers from Wall-E . Maybe human people put up with Eggman because his robots mean automation, and humans don't have to work anymore. They are encouraged to just be lazy egg-people, consuming EggTV and ePhone and other genius-tech from the Eggman Empire. 

The only ones who will suffer are the animals / mobini / mobians / chao / wisps / creatures that power the machines. But the humans are content to look the other way as long as they're pacified. The only ones standing in Eggman's path are Sonic and friends.

This last part of the idea would contradict too many things to totally fit, but it could work in an alt-verse, or the "classic timeline" where we haven't seen any non-Eggman humans, but -- what if Eggman doesn't look unusual for a human in this world? What if most humans look like egg-people from Wall-E because of the automation? And the difference with Eggman isn't that he's rolly polly, it's that he's an evil technocrat that enslaves animals for profit.

Sonic & friends retain their natural mammalian athleticism while humans have gone soft.

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Also is it headcanon to say I think anything not in the game/text/media itself doesn't count? As in, Iizuka saying things about his vision of how "two worlds" works is supported mostly by Sonic X and Sonic 2020 Movie -- but as I've posted before, "two worlds" also applies to almost all Sonic things. Past/future on Little Planet. Knothole/Robotropolis. Mobius/special zones. Land of the Sky/Land of Darkness. 

In other words, if you basically give developer interviews the same weight as any other fan headcanon, only working from the media -- based just on that, you'd notice the change in pronoun but not have any reason to really think "Sonic's World" and "Mobius" are any different than "Angel Island" and "Floating Island." 

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1 hour ago, Moose the Cat said:

In other words, if you basically give developer interviews the same weight as any other fan headcanon, only working from the media -- based just on that, you'd notice the change in pronoun but not have any reason to really think "Sonic's World" and "Mobius" are any different than "Angel Island" and "Floating Island." 

I’m sorry, what?

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10 minutes ago, Big Panda said:

I’m sorry, what?

What's the confusion?

Prior to Sonic Adventure, "Angel Island" was referred to as "Floating Island" by almost all materials (including S3K manuals); it wasn't clear until later that Angel Island Zone in Sonic 3 was the name of the full island, and not a mini island on the larger island.

"Floating Island" is not inaccurate, it's just less specific.  The shift to "Sonic's World" from "Mobius" is the same in reverse; it replaces the more specific pronoun with the less specific one. But they behave functionally as the same world.

Does that more sense?

I see where the confusion lies, apologies. You can see I meant proper noun instead of pro noun. 

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Turning "dark" is technically possible but rare for a good reason.

That level of dark chaos is usually more of a miserable experience, not the "badass dark side". If you expect to feel empowered by vengence, you are probably barking up the wrong tree, even for the more vengeful-minded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/7/2020 at 12:00 AM, Moose the Cat said:

I love the idea of "Egg" instead of "Apple" in the Mobius version of electronics, and I think it works better too if you combine a bit of the relationship between robots and consumers from Wall-E . Maybe human people put up with Eggman because his robots mean automation, and humans don't have to work anymore. They are encouraged to just be lazy egg-people, consuming EggTV and ePhone and other genius-tech from the Eggman Empire. 

The only ones who will suffer are the animals / mobini / mobians / chao / wisps / creatures that power the machines. But the humans are content to look the other way as long as they're pacified. The only ones standing in Eggman's path are Sonic and friends.

This last part of the idea would contradict too many things to totally fit, but it could work in an alt-verse, or the "classic timeline" where we haven't seen any non-Eggman humans, but -- what if Eggman doesn't look unusual for a human in this world? What if most humans look like egg-people from Wall-E because of the automation? And the difference with Eggman isn't that he's rolly polly, it's that he's an evil technocrat that enslaves animals for profit.

Sonic & friends retain their natural mammalian athleticism while humans have gone soft.

Y'know, Forces aside (for obvious reasons) I imagine a Wall-E like "utopia" is kind of like the world Eggman would build if he successfully conquered the world, only with his face and logo plastered everywhere with huge monuments, statues and attractions built in his honor.

And of course everyone would receive the benefit of fully automated labor and services provided by Eggman's superior technology in exchange for being completely loyal slaves to Eggman, obeying his every command and singing his praises in every conversation. In addition, all forms of art, song and literature would have to feature him in a good light and all businesses, companies and organizations would be completely under his control (and rebranded to glorify him). The people would be very closely monitored to keep to these "rules". If anyone ever badmouths Eggman or displeases him in any way, they are taken away to be roboticized in order to ensure "proper Eggmanland citizen behavior".

 

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On 5/9/2020 at 2:01 AM, Original Character said:

Turning "dark" is technically possible but rare for a good reason.

That level of dark chaos is usually more of a miserable experience, not the "badass dark side". If you expect to feel empowered by vengence, you are probably barking up the wrong tree, even for the more vengeful-minded.

I like this idea, though I have a different vision on the whole "dark form" thing.

IMO positive and negative chaos energy both give more power to the user, though their effect is different. While positive energy allows characters to go super, negative energy transforms them into monsters, bigger and more twisted as much energy is used; they may lose the ability to control themselves and become mindless beasts too.

I think that Light Gaia and Dark Gaia are a nice example of this applied to existing characters: You need chaos energy to activate the Gaia temples, and I'm pretty sure that Eggman used chaos energy to awake Dark Gaia and transform Sonic into a Werehog. Light Gaia doesn't really grow up to Dark Gaia's dimensions, he stays the same size, but uses the Gaia Temples to make a big golem-like body.

Also, Sonic becomes a werehog... I think that it's one first step of a "Dark Sonic" transformation.

Another character who used dark chaos energy is Chaos. He became bigger and more monstrous each time he absorbed the energy of an emerald, until he became a big kaiju.

But look at his Chaos 1  and 2 forms.

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Bigger arms... then Chaos 2 grows even more in the same way, and his body becomes more curved. This reminds me of what happend to Sonic in his Werehog form, and because of this I think it's the same type of transformation, and it happens due to dark chaos energy (Gaia's energy is probably similar to or even the same as chaos energy):

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(his body doesn't become curved but he uses both arms and legs to run, the center of mass is still moved forward and it's possible that if he continued the transformation futher he would have become a full time four-legged monster).

Now imagine how a Perfect (Dark) Sonic would look if he went the same "evolution" route as Chaos... I'm not sure I would like to see it.

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1 hour ago, Volcan Pacaya said:

Tikal and Chaos have helped guard the Master Emerald since the end of Sonic Adventure.

Purely so that Knuckles abandoning his post and paling around with Sonic makes sense.

"Wait, why isn't Knuckles with the Master Emerald?" is a fun riddle. I have a couple of different headcanons for that one. Here's my favorite one.

Knuckles doesn't need to physically be there to guard it, because he can instantly teleport to the Master Emerald with Warp Rings (supported by S3K Mushroom Hill Zone, and the Ian Flynn Archie usage of Warp Rings). He can sense the Master Emerald and if it's being disturbed, regardless of where he is; he can see in his mind's eye the shrine from the POV of inside the Emerald when he concentrates. The reason Knuckles is adventuring off Angel Island now is that he's been brought out of his isolationist shell by Sonic. He never had to be sitting beside the Master Emerald all day. He was just being shy!

 

 

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I've usually never cared for shipping, but since day 1 I've imagined that the Sonic 06 incarnations of Silver and Blaze were romantically involved.

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I don’t buy that supposed 06 Silvaze stuff, personally. This is definitely one of those scenarios where I just see “close friends” or even “brotherly/sisterly love”.

If we were to go by verbal indicators, Silver explicitly calls Blaze his friend at the end of his story.

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Less a headcanon and more of an observation — Silver & Blaze are kind of like the flip of Shadow & Rouge in personality/archetypes.  Blaze and Shadow are serious superhero ones. Silver and Rouge are a bit goofier, but still powerful partners.

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A lot of people point out how in the Classic and Adventure games, Sonic doesn't seem to be moving at the speed he's supposed to, because if he did, he would cross entire zones in seconds and be impossible to control.

I have a headcanon for an explanation of this gameplay mechanic, Sonic's Super-perception! We see in the Movie that Sonic can move so fast that the world appears to be slowed down around him while he seems to move at "normal" speeds. It's the same thing in the games, where Sonic sometimes doesn't seem to be moving anywhere near supersonic speeds, but that's only because of Sonic's extreme reaction time and heightened perception (he's used to his speed so it appears normal for him) that makes it appear as if Sonic isn't moving all that fast.

 

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4 hours ago, Sonario said:

A lot of people point out how in the Classic and Adventure games, Sonic doesn't seem to be moving at the speed he's supposed to, because if he did, he would cross entire zones in seconds and be impossible to control.

I have a headcanon for an explanation of this gameplay mechanic, Sonic's Super-perception! We see in the Movie that Sonic can move so fast that the world appears to be slowed down around him while he seems to move at "normal" speeds. It's the same thing in the games, where Sonic sometimes doesn't seem to be moving anywhere near supersonic speeds, but that's only because of Sonic's extreme reaction time and heightened perception (he's used to his speed so it appears normal for him) that makes it appear as if Sonic isn't moving all that fast.

While that’s a neat way of interpreting it, there are some holes to it.

If Sonic is actually moving at breakneck speed and it’s all “slowed down”, that would have to mean everything around him is moving at the same speed (badniks, for example), which I don’t find very likely.

Not to mention during scenarios where he’s being followed by other characters (Sonic 2 and 3, Heroes, Advance 3, etc.) they would also theoretically have to be moving at the same speed in order to keep up, which I’m sure is outright impossible for the likes of Knuckles and Amy.

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Amy, Sally, and Mina are best friends who sing karaoke, listen to Lemon Demon, eat Pizza Hut, go to Six Flags, and watch movies and TV shows together.

Silver and Blaze's favorite Marvel characters are Hawkeye and Black Widow.

Sonic eats at Sonic

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