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Sonic Mania (August 15th 2017, Christian Whitehead, PS4, Xbox One, PC, Switch) - The New Classic

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7 minutes ago, TailsBot said:

Bingo! Yeah's it's gotta be. We're not getting any news on P17 & Mania until at least the 16th. Might be a behind-the-scenes video or something, but definitely no new game info.

Remember guys, Aaron lurks this forum (and very occasionally posts). He probably noticed the recent discussion about Metal & Mecha Sonic in this topic and decided to have a little fun, getting the fanbase into a frenzy over nothing.......again XD

 

See I'm not sure about that. The social media team seem to be pretty in touch about not screwing people around with potential reveals. There were multiple times, from memory, in 2016 where they said ahead of time not to expect news at various events, panels etc.

Here they're explicitly teasing for tomorrow and also happened to delay their new video until tomorrow as well. Could it be another joke? Possibly, but they've never teased one of their jokes like this before and I can't see them pulling a stunt like that now.

Any major information or outright new announcements are almost definitely getting kept for the panel at the earliest so tomorrow is probably not some joke, but probably not massive either. The full artwork will definitely get shown if nothing else.

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18 minutes ago, TailsBot said:

Remember guys, Aaron lurks this forum (and very occasionally posts). He probably noticed the recent discussion about Metal & Mecha Sonic in this topic and decided to have a little fun, getting the fanbase into a frenzy over nothing.......again XD

Absolutely 100% not the case.

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2 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

Metal Sonic redesign confirmed.

I can't find any existing art/sprites with that kind of foot/knee.

(If this turns out to be true... Can I rub it in faces...?)

It won't be rubbed in my face because I already called Metal/Mecha Sonic fusing with Egg Robo. However from this tweet, it looks like Metal Sonic's arm upside down:

3 hours ago, BlueParadox said:

Welp

it's PROBABLY Metal Sonic...

Aaron could have just said leg day and cropped the image/flipped it to make it look like a leg as a joke.

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1 minute ago, SonicDude said:

It won't be rubbed in my face because I already called Metal/Mecha Sonic fusing with Egg Robo. However from this tweet, it looks like Metal Sonic's arm upside down:

Aaron could have just said leg day and cropped the image/flipped it to make it look like a leg as a joke.

We'll see soon enough. lol

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5 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

We'll see soon enough. lol

Lol. I wonder if it's also a reference to BLUE ARMS! GREEN EYES, BLUE ARMS, BLUE LEGS! BLUE SHOES!

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For some reason I have a weird feeling we'll see Eggman mess with the weather again in this game, would be neat if this returned in a different Zone.

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1 minute ago, Chris Knopps said:

Actually...

I think it's the boss of Green Hill Zone Act 2...

It IS on feet... It walks...

...Yep.

When Eggman adds legs to his mech but he aint got da speed

 

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I'd love to see Eggman use his Eggmobile from CD, and have that overall more menacing appearence. It was cool.

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3 minutes ago, Cyrus said:

There's a bit of print texture on this image and it's got airbrush shading like the classic games. Could it be cover art?

Maybe it will be something like this with Sonic fighting King Egg Robo Metal Sonic

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Hmmm!!  Something is on its way; I suppose that if what they are revealing at the panel might not have as much time to explain or would benefit from a few days ahead knowing about one of the characters, that about a week prior would be a lovely time to present it! 

The concept of a combined Egg Robo/Sonic Mech does seem like it would have even made sense in 1995/1996, it is not too much of a stretch!  I'm not sure that is what this will be, but that did seem to be a highly programmed and active Egg Robo as Knuckles' adversary throughout his storyline.   And we wonder whether this would mean that this theoretical hybrid, Fang/Bark/Bean, and Eggman would be working together, or, would they be working independently to disrupt different islands? 

What is definitely unclear/also speculative is Metal Sonic, as the animations following its defeat cause it to appear relatively damaged; but also the race against Metal Sonic occurred in the Future.  Of course, all of the boss confrontations were in the Future, but I've never thought about what that actually would mean.  Metal Sonic appeared in the Present time Collision Chaos and unless I am forgetting, that is its only appearance in the Present. 

I think it is implied that a time warp occurs before each Act 3 without an explanation as to how or why, just simply always bringing Sonic to the Future time of each zone. 

So it could be that Metal Sonic still exists, fully functional, in the Present....!!  Basically, that Sonic CD concluded in a far distant future and a parallel universe, and the S3K timeline that would be continued with Mania is not that same parallel!

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8 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

I have a question...

If they have Metal Sonic appearing with a new design in Mania and adding to the plot possibly...

Then does that mean Sonic 4 is being wiped out/retconned from the continuity?

It seems like something they would want to do!! ^_^   It was more of a game that could have been called by a name like Sonic Special HD , but that would have made it seem inessential or tangential.  At the time, it was actually essential to their progress, and so it did actually serve as a Sonic 4-esque stepping stone!  

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Just now, Jango said:

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Hopefully, as it should.

That's what I'd gather. Any game that would take place before Sonic 4 and suddenly do something else with Metal Sonic seems like it would rip apart their original plans.

Unless... What if Mania is the sequel to Sonic 4 and tells what wasn't told at the end of Episode 2...?

Also possible...

(But it would make the design situation all the more baffling between games)

I doubt this though. Christian Whitehead seems to be a bit of a loather of the Sonic 4 saga so it would make a lot of sense for him and his team to want to wipe it out of existence in whatever ways possible.

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6 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

That's what I'd gather. Any game that would take place before Sonic 4 and suddenly do something else with Metal Sonic seems like it would rip apart their original plans.

Unless... What if Mania is the sequel to Sonic 4 and tells what wasn't told at the end of Episode 2...?

Also possible...

(But it would make the design situation all the more baffling between games)

I doubt this though. Christian Whitehead seems to be a bit of a loather of the Sonic 4 saga so it would make a lot of sense for him and his team to want to wipe it out of existence in whatever ways possible.

They'll probably just be vague and say it takes place at some time after Sonic 3 & Knuckles. So it's up to fans to believe what they wish, that both this and Sonic 4 happened or that this is the true sequel or successor to 3&K.

Even though Sonic 4 was weird I still consider it the sequel to Sonic 3 & Knuckles because it's hilarious.

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8 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

I doubt this though. Christian Whitehead seems to be a bit of a loather of the Sonic 4 saga so it would make a lot of sense for him and his team to want to wipe it out of existence in whatever ways possible.

SEGA is the one who has the deciding factor into what's canon, though. 

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3 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

SEGA is the one who has the deciding factor into what's canon, though. 

Exactly, and unless they say otherwise this is still true lol:

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4 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

SEGA is the one who has the deciding factor into what's canon, though. 

I think even THEY would want to erase/retcon Sonic 4 as well, they'd have to approve it to a degree to allow any potential story alterations revolving Metal and his fate in a prequel title.

IF it's prequel, like to say it is.

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1 minute ago, Tenko said:

Well it's not Metal Sonic Mk V hahaha. I keep waiting for a nod to X-Treme since it's supposed to be as if the classic series continued into the Saturn Era. Nothing yet. Ms_markvf.thumb.jpg.626cdcd5bc90f452f3a6a8b636d19459.jpg

Slightly looks like this dude though. Especially if he has more spines that we can't see there.

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1 hour ago, Chris Knopps said:

I have a question...

If they have Metal Sonic appearing with a new design in Mania and adding to the plot possibly...

Then does that mean Sonic 4 is being wiped out/retconned from the continuity?

That, or they use Mecha Sonic and sidestep the issue. Or they acknowledge S4 and finally tie up that Death Egg II plot thread.

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