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Sonic Mania (August 15th 2017, Christian Whitehead, PS4, Xbox One, PC, Switch) - The New Classic

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Won't the power sneaker be on the other foot then. No longer will comments like "overzealous nostalgia-submersed nutjobs" and "times change, so has the franchise get over it already" be delivered by them, but to them by the new fans attracted to the fresh new version of Sonic. Perhaps then what fans of the classic approach have felt since 1996 will dawn on them, and they will truely understand.

More on topic however, does anyone else feel it strange that Eggman hasn't really been brought up or shown at all yet. The suspense is clawing at my insides. The Hard-Boiled Heavies are a brilliant touch, and besides a screen grab we outside the press haven't even seen them in action either. I'm hoping it's because they have some really fancy dynamic wouldn't have been possible on the Mega Drive style boss fights planned and they simply dont want to spoil too much of the game before launch. But that makes me want to see at least one Eggman mech even more >.<;

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21 minutes ago, Tenko said:

Won't the power sneaker be on the other foot then. No longer will comments like "overzealous nostalgia-submersed nutjobs" and "times change, so has the franchise get over it already" be delivered by them, but to them by the new fans attracted to the fresh new version of Sonic. Perhaps then what fans of the classic approach have felt since 1996 will dawn on them, and they will truely understand.

More on topic however, does anyone else feel it strange that Eggman hasn't really been brought up or shown at all yet. The suspense is clawing at my insides. The Hard-Boiled Heavies are a brilliant touch, and besides a screen grab we outside the press haven't even seen them in action either. I'm hoping it's because they have some really fancy dynamic wouldn't have been possible on the Mega Drive style boss fights planned and they simply dont want to spoil too much of the game before launch. But that makes me want to see at least one Eggman mech even more >.<;

Maybe it's another Heroes plot where the bots have betrayed/kidnapped him?

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1 hour ago, Tenko said:

 

More on topic however, does anyone else feel it strange that Eggman hasn't really been brought up or shown at all yet. The suspense is clawing at my insides. The Hard-Boiled Heavies are a brilliant touch, and besides a screen grab we outside the press haven't even seen them in action either. I'm hoping it's because they have some really fancy dynamic wouldn't have been possible on the Mega Drive style boss fights planned and they simply dont want to spoil too much of the game before launch. But that makes me want to see at least one Eggman mech even more >.<;

 

About as good as it gets on that front. The size of it almost makes me think it's some kind of badnik, but there's the possibility that it's just not even in the game, but something one of their artists just whipped up.

Still, decent idea of what Robotnik will look like.

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I had forgotten about that. Unless we are getting Emerald Hill for the Sonic 2 zone, which seems unlikely, that boss does seem out of place, and the single sprite sheet does make it look small. Like you suggest perhaps it's a badnik or some kind of set piece if that.

I was wondering if they would be going for more of a Sonic through 3K kind of style or more Sonic CD type style in design. The small differences between their sprites gives of a different feel.

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15 hours ago, CleverSonicUsername said:

 

About as good as it gets on that front. The size of it almost makes me think it's some kind of badnik, but there's the possibility that it's just not even in the game, but something one of their artists just whipped up.

Still, decent idea of what Robotnik will look like.

Either a badnik or something for kicks.

I doubt they'd make Eggman look that corny/stupid in the actual game. It's trying too hard to make him Mr. Comedy Relief, and if that has to stick around, just keep it in the 3D titles.

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so guys, I have an idea for the new level teaser.

So let's say there are copyrights, and we won't be getting ice cap, they would put in a new snow level I would think.

so in the image we have what's looks like snow, blue bricks, and a yellow gear.

So an ice castle stage? Would explain the knight heavy, gears are found in castles, and blue bricks would fit this theme. (I'm sure there would be snow boarding too.)

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I'm sure it's been brought up before, but Green Hill, Flying Battery and Aquatic Ruin were all in the Mania reveal trailer using footage from their respective games. Two of those zones are confirmed now, could ARZ be joining them? I hope so.

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16 minutes ago, Zippo said:

I'm sure it's been brought up before, but Green Hill, Flying Battery and Aquatic Ruin were all in the Mania reveal trailer using footage from their respective games. Two of those zones are confirmed now, could ARZ be joining them? I hope so.

While I don't hate ARZ, I would rather have Hydrocity and Mystic Cave

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14 minutes ago, Zippo said:

I'm sure it's been brought up before, but Green Hill, Flying Battery and Aquatic Ruin were all in the Mania reveal trailer using footage from their respective games. Two of those zones are confirmed now, could ARZ be joining them? I hope so.

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Holy shit. 

Well, I like Aquatic Ruin so that's fine with me. Hope we don't miss out on Hydrocity cause of this though

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2 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

Did we find out if this was Flying Battery? 

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It's not, it's a brand new zone.

 

my theory is, if icecap isn't coming, it's an ice-castle theme, judging by the gear, blue bricks and snow. Would explain the knight heavy too.

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I'd be a little underwhelmed by the choice of Aquatic Ruin when there are more unique options (Oil Ocean anyone?) available from Sonic 2. I was going to say that we've already seen a version of the same zone in relatively recent games (Sonic 4: Episode 2), but I guess that's the case for all of Sonic 2 outside of Hill Top, Mystic Cave and Oil Ocean.

Which reminds me... I've been wondering about Chemical Plant and Casino Night. It would seem odd for one of them not to be included since they're so iconic, yet the case could be made that they've been revisited enough in the last few years. I'd like to see Casino Night at least return in the form of a bonus/special stage of some sort.

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1 minute ago, Pawn said:

 I was going to say that we've already seen a version of the same zone in relatively recent games (Sonic 4: Episode 2), but I guess that's the case for all of Sonic 2 outside of Hill Top, Mystic Cave and Oil Ocean.

 

Oil Desert was basically Oil Ocean.

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Too soon as well. We had Sylvanian Castle in Sonic 4 Ep. 2 only 5 years ago. 

 

Has Taxman explicitly said we won't be seeing anything from the 8-bit games? I see a couple of nods to Green Hill and Bridge Zone. That new zone teaser looks a little like Sky High Zone 1 (with added gears). 

 

Crystal Egg would go quite well in here. Just saying... 

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8 minutes ago, CleverSonicUsername said:

Oil Desert was basically Oil Ocean.

Shit, I guess I ejected that from memory. Looking back at it; while there were similarities, I'd say there were enough differences (palette and desert trope being the most obvious contrasts) to set it apart. I mean I'd rather see Mystic Cave in Mania myself, but would be happy to see either or indeed both again.

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1 minute ago, Pawn said:

Shit, I guess I ejected that from memory. Looking back at it; while there were similarities, I'd say there were enough differences (palette being the most obvious contrast) to set it apart. I mean I'd rather see Mystic Cave in Mania myself, but would be happy to see either or indeed both again.

See I'd actually say Oil Desert is more visually similar than Sylvania Castle was to Aquatic Ruin, or maybe even whatever that flying level was to Wing Fortress.

But yeah, give me Mystic Cave. It's the best level in Sonic 2 and it's woefully under-represented. It seems like every other Sonic 2 level has had a comeback or some sort outside of Mystic Cave, Emerald Hill, and Hill Top. Although those last two are certainly not needed in Mania.

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Mystic Cave is after Hill Top right? What if they remixed both together due to the Hill Top mountain erupting as seen during the events of Sonic 2? You could have Mystic Cave, but with caved in sections and lava flows coming in from the erupted Hill Top area which you could see through holes in the cave walls/ceiling, which would all kind of pay homage to Lava Reef at the same time too.

Tho if Green Hill Act 2 and Flying Battery are anything to go by, the remixes aren't quite that extreme even when Green Hill is said to be the tamest among them. 

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1 hour ago, HywelAtTheMoon said:

Has Taxman explicitly said we won't be seeing anything from the 8-bit games? I see a couple of nods to Green Hill and Bridge Zone. That new zone teaser looks a little like Sky High Zone 1 (with added gears). 

Crystal Egg would go quite well in here. Just saying... 

Game Gear/SMS have simply not been mentioned which hopefully is a no news is good news situation!  I think that there is an awareness among the Mania team that Bridge is an all time classic that surely deserves to reach a wider audience at some point!  

This post from Tee is nonspecific, but it is still very encouraging! :lol:^_^^_^ 

 

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