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Sonic Mania (August 15th 2017, Christian Whitehead, PS4, Xbox One, PC, Switch) - The New Classic

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I feel like I should give this game a chance. From what I've seen so far, I'm actually impressed. The soundtrack is pretty addicting and memorable, so that's a plus. I might've been a little harsh about it before, but now...I want to see more of it. They could've at least made Amy a playable character, but it's no big deal. Maybe she could be DLC at some point? Who knows? As long as I get to play as Knuckles again, that's all that truly matters in the end. Mania isn't the best game ever as of now, but that doesn't mean I should just ignore it. We'll see how things go from here...

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1 hour ago, Indigo Rush said:

And all things considered, it's perfectly okay to be cautious.

I have complete faith in the Mania project. Apart from someone drugging Tax-Stealth and shipping them off to Timbuktu and replacing PagodaWest with Dimps, I'm expecting something that's at least on par with Sonic CD or Sonic 2 when they're at their best.

Despite how noncommittal I wish to be when talking about it, I'm honestly not very cautious about it's quality. I'm sure it'll be fine.

The classics just aren't for me. By the time I played Sonic 2 as a kid I was already enamored with Sonic Adventure 2: Battle and it didn't really come packaged with the nuances about the later 3-D game that I fell in love with. 

To this day I haven't been able to beat Sonic's 1 to 3 without pausing Mega Collection and saving at a point where I might die. Partaking in this wasn't very much fun. Motivation for me to brave the possibility of being kicked back to the first level wasn't feasible as there weren't any story related reasons for me to continue and the failure to grasp the gameplay made me feel sad rather then any drive to conquer it. On top of that, their designs weren't the more modern ones I liked, I missed the 3-D plain, they couldn't talk, and there were only about 1 or 2 playable characters. 

I was molded into a completely different Sonic kid then most of the people excited about this game. It's a passing interest of association that I have with Mania as a result. Classic and Modern Sonic may share the same name but I'll be damned if they don't feel like two completely different entities. 

I'll get the game for sure but my worry about how much fun I'll have stems from more my position on which version of Sonic I'm more comfortable with. The actual quality is an entirely different matter.

Sonic 4: Episode II didn't really hinge on any of that though. It was just a bad game. 

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1 hour ago, SSJ Diamond said:

As from someone who didnt grow up with the old games, I am pretty hyped for this game. But im 90% sure i am gonna be horrible at this game.

Not growing up with the old games isn't all it comes down to of course. Certain factors about the games you hold more true to yourself over others can also come into play. I knew there were going to be people who didn't grow up with the Classics that were also going to be excited for this.

We all think differently about the series regardless of which age we're in.

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I was born in the late 90s and ended up playing all the games in order starting with my sister's Genesis. I can't wait to get my hands on this game. I'm just curious of how much of it will be remixes and how much will be new content. I'd prefer more new than remix, but I'll be happy with whatever we get. It would be cool if they remixed stages that were cut out of the original games. Do you guys think Sonic Mania will be a one time thing or that we'll be seeing more classic games after this? (Also Sega pls port Sonic 1 & 2 Remasters to Console and PC.)

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1 minute ago, Sonic The Badass said:

Do you guys think Sonic Mania will be a one time thing or that we'll be seeing more classic games after this?

I personally believe that Sonic Mania is going to be a one time thing, the "be-all, end-all" of the Classic series.

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Would like to point something out regarding a collectors edition of this game.

Given how this was digital only... there exists the very real possibility that the CE might not have a physical release but a DLC code.

 

Why? Well... Microsoft. Microsoft is very restrictive on low physical releases, we're talking high thousands if not into the tens of thousands for a physical release.

However... Sony is really good for limited run releases on their systems. Vita and PS4 can be as low as just a thousand.

Xbox 360 and One is another story, it's a much higher quantity. Source of this is any Limited Run Games interview. 

This would mean that Sega would need to manufacture somewhere in the region of at least (Best estimate) 5000- 10 thousand+ units on just the Xbox One.... then a similar number for the PS4... then another quantity on the PC.

Now add the cost of all the CE content on top of that. 

That's... quite a lot of high priced CEs over 2 potentially 3 systems, even before you get into the distribution costs... assuming it's not limited to one region.

But, the cost would be lowered if part of that run was for standard edition physical games. 

So odds are if a CE is planned expect one of the following with regards as to how you'll play the game.

1: There will be a standard physical release alongside the main CE.

2: The CE will contain a DLC code only to get around Microsofts restrictions.

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I mean, I was introduced to Sonic when Rivals 2 came and Unleashed was the hypest thing ever so like I didn't know what's a Sonic for nearly half of my life but thanks to a friend, I got my hands on Classic Collection to try out the original games. Granted, i wasn't good at them but once I put enough time to them; I got pretty good. I mean now I just casually play the StealthTax rebuilds of 1 and 2 and I can easily get all the Chaos Emeralds in Emerald Hill with little difficulty. Though it has been a while since I played CD but since I got the Steam version, that'll change soon.

SO yeah, I spent a good amount of time playing through the original 4 games so yeah, I'm pretty excited to see how Mania will hold up compared to them. Though I'm not as excited as everyone else not because I don't get the reason behind the excitement, I very much do but I grew up with watching Sonic X and playing Unleashed so I'm more attached to Modern than Classic; though that doesn't mean I don't like one over the other. I have great love for all 3 styles of Sonic. 

But with the utmost confidence in Whitehead and crew and just how Mania looks already and the fact this is probably the most passionate project for a videe game ever, just gives me the sigh of relief that i won't have to worry about it especially since this is a different SEGA than the SEGA of 2006 or 2014.

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56 minutes ago, SSJ Diamond said:

As from someone who didnt grow up with the old games, I am pretty hyped for this game. But im 90% sure i am gonna be horrible at this game.

That is a good thing :)^_^  The original gameplay, overall and especially interacting with the zones, is an ongoing learning process for everyone, no matter how long they have played! 

It is part of why this style of game: the physics, many layers of alternate paths/fully creative zones, unique single and chain reactions, and everything else, have been as missed as they have; it is very much a gift that keeps giving.  The original game engines, and now the Retro engine allow what feels like a four dimensional game in a 2d environment!  The third dimension in this case might be that the movement feels as intuitive and free as moving in real life does; and the fourth is the ability to be immersed in the environment and follow the action often effortlessly.  ^_^  

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36 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

Well Sega just got an offer of a physical release for the game!

 

Hah! I'd be more than happy to spend money for a physical copy (although it means shit on Steam)!

I hope the physical copies become a reality! I wonder how the cover would look, though?

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I would totally buy the hell out of a collector's edition of Mania, and it would proudly sit next to my full original collection of the classic series of Sonic games that inhabit my collectors shelf. 

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I'd be much more likely to purchase a physical copy then something I needed to download. Fact of the matter is that I've always been more comfortable feeling as though I own something when I have the ability to hold it in my hands.

There's always been a sort of cognitive disconnect I've had with the few games I own with which there was no choice but to grab a non-physical copy of. 

I love that they managed to get One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 a PS3 download but boy would it have looked so fine sitting on my shelf. Buying it again when I finally get a PS4 would be useless at this point.

Maybe if I could get my hands on an empty case...

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24 minutes ago, Marcello said:

SEGA isn't some small indie studio. They should release it themselves.

I would really want them to do that. Apparently, Limited Run Games' stuff becomes rare really fast.

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I will buy a digital copy. I will by a physical copy. I will buy a collectors edition. 

This game can take every damn ring I have. 

Also, include the game in a Genesis box in that collectors edition please! :) 

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