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Sonic Mania (August 15th 2017, Christian Whitehead, PS4, Xbox One, PC, Switch) - The New Classic

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I'd be happy for the Metal Sonic encounters to return because they were in the real Classic titles. I wouldn't want to see someone like Shadow who came from the 3D titles because he doesn't belong in a real 2D Sonic game like Mania.

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Apparently the name "Silver Sonic" was used in he European manuals.

I would prefer Mecha to return purely because he hasn't featured in other games since S&K (unlike Metal) apart from his cameo in Adventure.

I like both of their respective designs in S&K & Sonic CD. I can understand why some fans get confused between the two, because they do look similar :P

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If Mecha was running in Mania and you could see his previous designs running behind him (like how you see three Sonic's behind Sonic when he's running really fast), now that would be awesome. 

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I never thought of fighting the other versions of Metal Sonic, that would be really cool.

I agree with Celestia that it would be really awesome to fight a new Mania Metal Sonic. Great idea Celestia! :)

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12 hours ago, Lucid Dream said:

I wonder if Triple Trouble or Sonic Chaos will ever get any appearances in Sonic Mania.

It would be really cool if Fang was reintroduced. 

They've confirmed that they're taking from Sonic 1-3&K and CD only, so none of the obscure titles will be brought in. 

And there's definitely no Fang. Probably not Mecha Sonic either since Metal Sonic has pretty much taken over that role entirely. 

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Ok, understood. I won't jab 3D Sonic in this thread since it's a Mania thread and it might seem a bit uncalled for.

Can I still criticise the 3D titles in the '17 thread?

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Because the games aren't very good lol. It's no different to me than taking jabs at Sonic 4. No one would get upset if I jabbed at Sonic 4 in the Mania thread.

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9 minutes ago, Pixel said:

Ok, understood. I won't jab 3D Sonic in this thread since it's a Mania thread and it might seem a bit uncalled for.

Can I still criticise the 3D titles in the '17 thread?

So long as you actually justify yourself properly the instead of going "ew Shadow is bad, Sonic shouldn't ever speak, etcetera" without justifying yourself. 

This is a board where we appreciate fair arguments and debates, not pointless hating and personal attacking. 

And if you want to post in the Project 2017 thread, please remember to actually talk about project 2017. 

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I have talked about the game. I've said that I want Metal Sonic to return and that it's unlikely Nack and his co will return.

Let's just say it as it is, a massive sensitivity issue about the 3D title because, for some reason I'll never understand, some fans actually like the 3D titles. If I mocked Sonic 4, no one would have an issue. If I said 'I want Metal Sonic to appear, but not like his rubbish boss fights in Sonic 4', no one would bat an eyelid. I find it so silly because Sonic 4 and the 3D titles are equally rubbish in my opinion.

But anyway, Celestia has advised me to stop it, so I'll stop talking about the 3D titles in this thread.

I think the Metal Sonic idea is really good, I think it's almost certain he will appear in Mania.

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I think it would be cool to see the various Metal Sonic in containers in a Eggman base Zone. Kind of like Metal and Mecha Sonic is Adventure. That was one cool thing about Adventure!

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Before this thread got derailed, i was kinda gonna suggest the reused levels in this game. were going to be some lost-levels from the ports. Whitehead/Steatlh were involved in. possibly one's that weren't programmed at all from the start?

i wasn't too interested in this game before, but more interesting zones that get very few references. like Starlight or Marble.  along with others from Sonic CD. would color me a little more interested. maybe for the steam/pc version maybe. don't know the collection's edition, makes me think it's for all available versions of the game >.<

and i do know this is a classic-fan made game, but i also be interested in classic-versions of modern characters in this game. partially as DLC. or Pre-Order bonuses (and i know that's kinda an bad-word for gamers, but that kind of advertisement couldn't hurt. if the pre-orders set as DLC was available at an low price.)

Edited by Fr0zenanus
accidently place another "the" in front of another.

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I've noticed a lot of people saying that, with there being less new levels than revisited ones, that we'll likely only see 9 levels in total (including 5 old, one from each classic) or it would have to come up to a massive number with at least 10 classic levels (2 from each), as though the same number has to be picked from each game. I don't think we have any reason to believe that though. We could end up with 2 each from Sonic 1 and 2 and one each from the others, making 7. Add 6 new levels and you end up with 13, which is pretty damn big for a Sonic game and a lot easier to imagine than over 15.

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It's also possible that it could be 75% Classic Levels and 25% new levels. I wouldn't rule out that it isn't a half and half affair.

As in, we could see 10 returning levels and 3 new ones.

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I think I may be the only one that would like to see some homages to Adventure or Adventure 2. Maybe in the form of a 16 bit reimagined stage from one of the games, or a reference to the plot of those games in some way.

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I can't say I'm ecstatic to see Adventure get representation and especially not the plot. I'd prefer the games recall Sonic's Classic prime.

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I expect the game will be set before SA, so referencing things from the Adventures wouldn't make a whole lot of sense anyway. I mean, obviously the locations would still exist, but they don't hold any relevance to the characters before those games happen.

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1 minute ago, Diogenes said:

I expect the game will be set before SA, so referencing things from the Adventures wouldn't make a whole lot of sense anyway. I mean, obviously the locations would still exist, but they don't hold any relevance to the characters before those games happen.

But that's exactly what I mean. In my head, there's very little connection between the classic franchise and the adventure series. That makes me wonder if there was any story as to how the main characters first encountered Station Square or started Tails' workshop in the Mystic Ruins. I think I'd like to see some connection to those locations that hint at the future of the series going into the adventure series. Or something along those lines.

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A good chunk of Sonic Adventure takes place on Angel Island, and it's story expounds on the background info in the manuals for Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, so the connection was pretty apparent to me. Sonic even revisits Ice Cap. 

Wouldn't object to seeing a Mystic Ruins Zone, mind.

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