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Sonic Mania (Summer 2017, Christian Whitehead, PS4, Xbox One, PC, Switch) - The New Classic

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15 hours ago, FFWF said:

While I have my preferences, I don't think I could be disappointed by any choice of CD level.

I'd be ok with any level from CD except Wacky Workbench. It's a close one between WW and Aquatic Ruin for my least favorite level in the classic Sonic games.

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1 hour ago, Inkling Cooper said:

OMG, this is cool. I think that screenshot of knuckles in the bottom right is interesting...

Also can anyone confirm if this is a date (and if so, which month)?

This might just be a release date.

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Edit: Do note this is a (Japanese?) magazine, which means the 23rd there is the 22nd here where LA is (SEGA of America HQ).

June 22nd = Thursday (Games usually release not on Thursdays)

July 22nd = Saturday (Releases are rare on Saturdays)

August 22nd = Tuesday (Typical release date)

I am getting the feeling that August 22nd is Sonic Mania's release date based off of this article.

4 months until then. So close yet so far away.

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Lets get a good look at it:

We can see Knuckles (bottom right) upside down in Flying Battery.

Tails (top right) is flying just after the original starting point of FB in 3&K.

We know the direction Sonic is heading on the zip-line in GH act2 leads to a special stage.

As @FFWF pointed out (bottom left) in the Mirage Saloon screenshot the star-post does have (very faint) stars circling above it to indicate a bonus stage.

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Sadly, the kanji next to 23 means years. I think this means that it's been 23 years since we had a true classic Sonic game. Sonic 4 and Sonic 3D don't count. 

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So why are some taking it as stages? Wouldn't the Kanji for that be completely different?

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Twenty-three zones would be absolutely ridiculous and probably too many.  ...Twenty-three acts, maybe, but I don't buy them giving away such a figure.

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5 minutes ago, VEDJ-F said:

So why are some taking it as stages? Wouldn't the Kanji for that be completely different?

Where do you see people as taking it as "23 stages"?

My friend who speaks Japanese just confirmed what HywelAtTheMoon said (23 years since the last game).

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So not much, but Mania began development in 2015. 

The rule for the artwork for this game was to be above the Genesis art but under Saturn's art. 

Gameplay is similar to Sonic 3, and elemental shields are returning... 

Still no release date though...

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1 hour ago, FFWF said:

Twenty-three zones would be absolutely ridiculous and probably too many.  ...Twenty-three acts, maybe, but I don't buy them giving away such a figure.

Think it's been said the 23 number refers to the years since Mania and Sonic 3&K, rather than zones. But I wouldn't be too averse to a Sonic game having that many zones at face value--I'd say it depends on the implementation.

Sonic 2 and Sonic 3&K have respectively 11 and 14 zones*, respectively--but those numbers include zones that are only one act long, like Sky Chase and Hidden Palace. If you omit the one-act zones and focus solely on zones that have two acts (or three, in the case of Metropolis), Sonic 2 has 8 and Sonic 3&K has 11 in comparison. Most of the one one-off acts I mentioned are also not really fully-designed platforming levels, and are instead utilized for different purposes--Death Egg (Sonic 2) and The Doomsday only set the stage as climatic final boss battles, while Sky Chase and Hidden Palace serve more to advance the story narrative / zone progression. A significant portion of zones in a 23 zone count list could work as individual acts in the above manners.

*Referring to the main campaign, not counting the multiplayer acts from the competition mode.

Moreover, the implementation of zones can also differ in terms of how they're implemented in the game. Progressing through having 23 zones in a linear order (which I presume you're thinking of) would admittedly be a tall order for people to sit through--I've seen people say Sonic 3&K is too long compared to other Sonic titles, and the main campaign has around half of that number (aforementioned 14) in total zone count. But if the game had a more non-linear / branching approach, that would be absolutely fine IMO. You could have nine-twelve designated "main" zones (including one-off acts), and the rest could either be anything else the designers wanted. Zones only found through secret entrances, bonus zones unlocked after the main campaign, zones that serve as an "alternative" progression route to the story, multiplayer-exclusive zones, etc.

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1 hour ago, Fusion Ellipsis said:

The rule for the artwork for this game was to be above the Genesis art but under Saturn's art. 

What does this mean? Artwork for the 2 Saturn Sonic the Hedgehog games weren't ever better than even the GG games.

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1 minute ago, StaticMania said:

What does this mean? Artwork for the 2 Saturn Sonic the Hedgehog games weren't ever better than even the GG games.

I think the quote is referring more to the graphical style of the game--better than Genesis, but doesn't surpass Saturn limitations, something Taxman and co. have been saying on their visual inspirations for Sonic Mania from the game's unveiling.

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I want to add on top of it saying "years" that the delay was only a few weeks ago, and if they weren't comfortable giving a solid date beyond "Summer" then there's no way by now they would be comfortable.

 

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10 minutes ago, Mark1 said:

Direct video here guys. Got drowned in the Sonic Forces news 😂

At least we got bonus stage confirmation for Mania :D

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Tax said the Blue Spheres screen shot was not revealing Mania's special stage, so it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that they're used for Mania's bonus stages. Or at least one of them.

What I'm curious about is how many variants we'll get on Blue Spheres. It'd be awesome if they're procedurally generated, just swapping in different quadrants like the bonus game back in the day.

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Oh hell to the yes if Blue Spheres is the bonus stage!

Let's just hope the actual special stage isn't a half pipe xD

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isnt there supposed to be a stream later tonight? I wonder if we get any new tidbits of info out of that.

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Yep, I'm looking forward to it. I'm extrememly thirsty for a release date, I hope we at least get like a month or something.

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I doubt that we'll get a release date. But I would be fine with even the tiniest amount of new information, I dont expect anything at all out of the stream.

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