Sonic Forces | PS4, Xbox One, Switch, PC "The Next Generations"

[KHCast]

To add, I liked chemical plant and seaside hill visually. Just wasn't as interested in those two. And Crisis City while not amazing was still nice to play through 

[Ratcicle King]

Honestly Crisis City in Generations would've been great if it weren't for the fact Perfect Chaos, literally the boss before Crisis City, used the same assets replacing the lava with water.

Kinda takes away any sense of surprise or awe when it's just more of the same.

[Lord-Dreamerz]

Planet Wisp was my favorite zone on Sonic Generations, And I don’t just mean the first half of it.

But Crisis City is not a zone I cared for. Boring design and annoying gameplay. Nothing from Sonic 06 is good even when remade. =p

 

[Kellan]

9 minutes ago, Scar said:

Take away the burning city and put it in a volcanic setting at it would be fantastic.

I disagree. In my opinion, the burning city is what makes the level cool. The burning city is what makes the level unique. We have plenty of generic volcano levels, but there's only one Crisis City.

[Meta77]

15 minutes ago, Lord-Dreamerz said:

Planet Wisp was my favorite zone on Sonic Generations, And I don’t just mean the first half of it.

But Crisis City is not a zone I cared for. Boring design and annoying gameplay. Nothing from Sonic 06 is good even when remade. =p

 

Planet wisp was a butt of a level.  it was annoying running it. The saving grace is the music. And besides I just love hearing the music when suddenly. ROCKET!!!!!!!!

[JosepHenry]

I see that people aren't too happy about the tone of Project 2017...

 

But I wanted this for a very long time. This is freaking awesome! Eggman showing that he is still the one who burned Angel Island, blew the moon in half, destroyed Prison Island, and tried to nuke Station Square.  

This is no Crisis City, this a city from that looks from Unleashed getting destroyed by Eggman. Not Iblis, not Black Doom, just Eggman using his cartoony robots to destroy everything. 

This just feels right. It feels like is from a Sonic game. Yes, the tone is dark, but it looks like that this time, after many failed attempts, it will finally work.

[Meta77]

2 minutes ago, JosepMelloZSM said:

I see that people aren't too happy about the tone of Project 2017...

 

But I wanted this for a very long time. This is freaking awesome! Eggman showing that he is still the one who burned Angel Island, blew the moon in half, destroyed Prison Island, and tried to nuke Station Square.  

This is no Crisis City, this a city from that looks from Unleashed getting destroyed by Eggman. Not Iblis, not Black Doom, just Eggman using his cartoony robots to destroy everything. 

This just feels right. It feels like is from a Sonic game. Yes, the tone is dark, but it looks like that this time, after many failed attempts, it will finally work.

Most are happy. You just got a few who think sonic should stay in a bright sunny rainbow and bunnies land

[Radiant Hero Ike]

Just now, Meta77 said:

Most are happy. You just got a few who think sonic should stay in a bright sunny rainbow and bunnies land

And that's fine.

Personally I like the COOL FIRE CITY but I would prefer it if isn't like that the whole game, you know. I doubt it will be. Even Shadow had whatever those sky ruins were and the techno stages that weren't all doom and gloom.

[Meta77]

2 minutes ago, Radiant Hero Ike said:

And that's fine.

Personally I like the COOL FIRE CITY but I would prefer it if isn't like that the whole game, you know. I doubt it will be. Even Shadow had whatever those sky ruins were and the techno stages that weren't all doom and gloom.

There's no way the entire world will be doom and gloom. i expect at least two sort of there's some hope left stages

[Tracker_TD]

15 minutes ago, Meta77 said:

Most are happy. You just got a few who think sonic should stay in a bright sunny rainbow and bunnies land

When the best games in the series suit that tone (however much hyperbole you need to put it down), it's hardly unreasonable innit.

[-Ace-]

18 minutes ago, Meta77 said:

Most are happy. You just got a few who think sonic should stay in a bright sunny rainbow and bunnies land

And see thats the thing about the Sonic series, I believe he can pull off both of these astetics well.

[FriendBot]

2 minutes ago, Tracker_TD said:

When the best games in the series suit that tone (however much hyperbole you need to put it down), it's hardly unreasonable innit.

I'm sure Sonic 3&K had some intense moments, so I'd say there is some merit to have some serious moments.

Can't have an adventure or any sort of investment if is there is no stakes to be had.

[Tracker_TD]

3 minutes ago, Soni said:

I'm sure Sonic 3&K had some intense moments, so I'd say there is some merit to have some serious moments.

Can't have an adventure or any sort of investment if is there is no stakes to be had.

That's not what I'm saying.

S3, fine sure. I already explained why earlier. 

2017 looks like it's going off the good ol' tryhard deep end. I can't make an absolute call obviously, it's not out yet. But from a first impression it looks... dumb.

[Celestia]

Not suggesting that this game'll have CD style time travel as an in-game mechanic, but I do get the impression this is a Bad Future kind of thing we're looking at here. Maybe we'll get something like Generations but with new levels and now the Acts are set in different time periods? I dunno, but I'll be shocked if everything in this game matches the tone of the teasers.

[JosepHenry]

Oh, come on! You guys really think that this game will be doom and gloom, just because of the teaser? Now the teaser from Sonic Unleashed was a white background, does that mean the whole game is going to be in a white background? I'm pretty sure that's going to be the only stage that is "on fire". The rest is going to be beautiful clean landscapes, just like Colors and Unleashed. I'm sure of that.

 

And sure, Sonic Lost World is an amaaazing game with the best style for stages. Don't we all love those Minecraft trees, cardboard bushes and flying donut land? Not even Kirby fits.

[Tracker_TD]

1 minute ago, JosepMelloZSM said:

Oh, come on! You guys really think that this game will be doom and gloom, just because of the teaser? Now the teaser from Sonic Unleashed was a white background, does that mean the whole game is going to be in a white background? I'm pretty sure that's going to be the only stage that is "on fire". The rest is going to be beautiful clean landscapes, just like Colors and Unleashed. I'm sure of that.

 

And sure, Sonic Lost World is an amaaazing game with the best style for stages. Don't we all love those Minecraft trees, cardboard bushes and flying donut land? Not even Kirby fits.

Like I said, not a good first impression. Read. 

Pretty bloody different to "Unleashed had a white background," bloody hell lad. 

And Lost World is a fucking shit game; doesn't mean this can't also look like pish. 

[FriendBot]

I don't know, I don't see what's so dumb about 2017's teaser.

After a good amount of years of happy-go-lucky Sonic, I'd say it's past due for a more serious trailer for a Sonic game. Maybe I'm just being ignorant so meh.

[Celestia]

7 minutes ago, JosepMelloZSM said:

The rest is going to be beautiful clean landscapes, just like Colors and Unleashed. I'm sure of that.

Let's not be too dismissive here due to recent entries in the series, I mean ShTH followed Heroes of all things.

I highly doubt we'd get something that drastic again if only because of how much Sonic Team's played it safe for the past 7 or so years, but y'know.

[JezMM]

I find Crisis City comparisons kind of unfair because it completely ignores the unique designs and colours on show in the architecture of this new city, which are far more interesting than the drab, generic rectangular skyscrapers all over the place in Crisis City.  Overall I find this aesthetic no more grim in style than Eggmanland in Unleashed.

The only thing I disliked in the trailer was the generic dramatic orchestral music, which wasn't even cool dramatic orchestral music with techno or rock elements like a superhero movie soundtrack, it was just... there and had no oomph to it whatsoever.  I really hope that was outsourced and not at all representative of the music in the game, even for cut-scenes.

Bad first impression?  Maybe, I do think the teaser was misguided, almost as if they were trying as hard as possible to be a total contrast to Mania to keep interest level between the two titles.  But that was just destined not to happen no matter how you swung it, I guess.

To be honest though, if this location is the first level of the game and we start out dramatic... I can dig it.  Shadow the Hedgehog kinda did the same thing but that game's city designs were generic america-ville like Crisis City.  This overall seems unique and I'd take it any day over "Green Hill... again" which even Mania couldn't get away with not doing by it's nature (though not to downplay what a goddamn gorgeous a job they did of it).

[TB100]

Honestly I don't care too much about the tone.

Okay sure the city is on fire and there's giant scary Eggman mechs walking around, but there's also this.

Followed by this.

And even looking at the overall city, it's not all grim and dark looking like let's say Westopolis or Crisis city were. It still looks pretty colorful even if it's all destroyed and on fire.

So while I am expecting a darker tone then previous Sonic games, I'm not expecting them to go all edgy & serious like Shadow and 06 did. probably more along the tone of the Adventure duology where it's a bit darker and the stakes are much higher then the norm but never quite going there. 

[D.K.]

It's all about execution. The issue with a lot of Sonic games is that the writing tends to teeter-totter one way or the other, there's either too many jokes or too much doom and gloom. I think Unleashed's tone and writing struck the perfect middle ground - Just the right balance of humor and drama.

Not only does the occasional joke make the dramatic moments all the more tense and shocking, it adds a more human side to the characters that you rarely see outside of spinoffs.

[Chili Dawg]

My prediction is that the game will begin in dramatic bad future land, then go back to the past for more normalish Sonic levels, working towards a grand finale back in extra dramatic bad future land.

Just a gut feeling. 

[JingleBoy]

55 minutes ago, BlueBlur91 said:

This boy has no teeth

[Kintor]

1 hour ago, Tracker_TD said:

That's not what I'm saying.

S3, fine sure. I already explained why earlier. 

2017 looks like it's going off the good ol' tryhard deep end. I can't make an absolute call obviously, it's not out yet. But from a first impression it looks... dumb.

You seem to be arguing that this image of giant robots amidst the ruins of a burning city isn't something that the classic era would depict. To which I reply, take a look at the bad ending to Knuckles Chaotix:

This is what happens when you fail to get all the Chaos Rings, Metal Sonic Kai goes on a rampage and burns a random city to the ground - as sinister music plays over the credits.

It's dark, it shows what's at stake if Knuckles can't defeat Dr Robotnik and it absolutely belongs in the classic era. So seeing those giant robots in Project Sonic 2017, it's a completely legitimate way to develop the game.

[Tracker_TD]

6 minutes ago, Kintor said:

You seem to be arguing that this image of giant robots amidst the ruins of a burning city isn't something that the classic era would depict. To which I reply, take a look at the bad ending to Knuckles Chaotix:

This is what happens when you fail to get all the Chaos Rings, Metal Sonic Kai goes on a rampage and burns a random city to the ground - as sinister music plays over the credits.

It's dark, it shows what's at stake if Knuckles can't defeat Dr Robotnik and it absolutely belongs in the classic era. So seeing those giant robots in Project Sonic 2017, it's a completely legitimate way to develop the game.

It was relatively jarring there, too, so uh

Yeah

Also helps that it didn't set the first impression, a factor plenty of folk seem to be conveniently missing out of their reading of my posts.

I'm arguing that the Classic games, 9 times out of 10, didn't become tryhard, because they didn't. Some shite spin-off be damned.