Sonic Forces | PS4, Xbox One, Switch, PC "The Next Generations"

[Chris Knopps]

Really insane idea here, I mean, REALLY insane but...

What if Eggman is taking on more of an Aku personality in the Forces title?

I mean, constantly mocking Sonic throughout the game, with every defeat Eggman endures he leaves with another reminder that all is still his? Like, maybe after a boss, Eggman gets a communication that a new town/country has been demolished/conquered?

"So, you won this fight... But do you hear THAT hedgehog? By wasting your time with me, my army has annihilated another land! Give it up! The more you fight me, the more others will suffer! You must choose, hunt me down or try to save whatever pitiful locales you can! Either way, everything is MINE and will be MINE, so go, GO and TRY to be a hero, but no matter what you do, watch as more fall and ask why, why was their beloved Sonic not able to save them?!"

"Ho ho ho ho, haaaa ha ha ha haaaaa!!!"

[Bobnik]

I... Actually dislike the visual style of Lost World. It felt too out of place for me - weird grass that looks like it's made out of paper, desert having really cartoonish worms and cactuses(cacti?) with a face, tropical level looking like something from Mickey Mouse world, rather than Sonic world, weird trees etc. It looks TOO cartoonish for me, even somehow compared to classic games. The only level that for me was fitting for a Sonic game was a casino level and MAYBE jungle levels from the visual standpoint. 

 

Then again, I hate Lost World in general, so eh.

[Dannymax440]

6 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

Really insane idea here, I mean, REALLY insane but...

What if Eggman is taking on more of an Aku personality in the Forces title?

I mean, constantly mocking Sonic throughout the game, with every defeat Eggman endures he leaves with another reminder that all is still his? Like, maybe after a boss, Eggman gets a communication that a new town/country has been demolished/conquered?

"So, you won this fight... But do you hear THAT hedgehog? By wasting your time with me, my army has annihilated another land! Give it up! The more you fight me, the more others will suffer! You must choose, hunt me down or try to save whatever pitiful locales you can! Either way, everything is MINE and will be MINE, so go, GO and TRY to be a hero, but no matter what you do, watch as more fall and ask why, why was their beloved Sonic not able to save them?!"

"Ho ho ho ho, haaaa ha ha ha haaaaa!!!"

Well it is insane...

Insanely genius and I love it. Makes Eggman sound both intimidating and entertaining at the same time.

[Mark1]

1 hour ago, Chris Knopps said:

Really insane idea here, I mean, REALLY insane but...

What if Eggman is taking on more of an Aku personality in the Forces title?

I mean, constantly mocking Sonic throughout the game, with every defeat Eggman endures he leaves with another reminder that all is still his? Like, maybe after a boss, Eggman gets a communication that a new town/country has been demolished/conquered?

"So, you won this fight... But do you hear THAT hedgehog? By wasting your time with me, my army has annihilated another land! Give it up! The more you fight me, the more others will suffer! You must choose, hunt me down or try to save whatever pitiful locales you can! Either way, everything is MINE and will be MINE, so go, GO and TRY to be a hero, but no matter what you do, watch as more fall and ask why, why was their beloved Sonic not able to save them?!"

"Ho ho ho ho, haaaa ha ha ha haaaaa!!!"

Not going to lie, can see Sega potentially doing this.

And would encourage it, to show the dynamic between Sonic and Eggman, good and evil. Something I feel the games can do once in a while within their stories to show Eggman can be the most menacing of villains. It got so tedious when a monster kept overtaking Eggman, far too predictable after the Adventure games.

Colours, Generations and Lost World all made him such a fantastic character, probably the most entertaining in the whole franchise by far, and none of the spotlight was taken from him (Even the communication between him and the Deadly Six was decent, despite the latter group going rogue - the good Doctor took none of their shit at all  )

[Zippo]

I don't even like Colors very much, but I would still say the Nega Egg Wisp is the best final boss in any 3D Sonic game. It's just a little too short for my liking. 

[HywelAtTheMoon]

It would be interesting to see what happens when Eggman is finally cornered in the endgame. Usually, he escapes. What if Eggman is apprehended by GUN? I doubt Eggman would be let go after the events of this game. 

 

I hope they don't copy the 06 ending and reset time either, if time travel is involved. 

[Detective Kaito]

46 minutes ago, HywelAtTheMoon said:

It would be interesting to see what happens when Eggman is finally cornered in the endgame. Usually, he escapes. What if Eggman is apprehended by GUN?

I doubt GUN will ever appear again in a Sonic game.

[JosepHenry]

19 minutes ago, Detective Kaito said:

I doubt GUN will ever appear again in a Sonic game.

That means no Rouge or Omega?

Those turrets could be from GUN.

[Diogenes]

Rouge and Omega can easily appear without GUN.

[Kellan]

l hope GUN comes back. It would seem weird for Eggman to completely conquer the world without any resistance from this world's military.

[JosepHenry]

That's true, but considering the military theme from the game (The logo at least), I would find kinda weird if GUN isn't in the game.

Also, Rouge is a goverment spy, so I link her with GUN.

[Sonikko]

2 hours ago, Kellan said:

That doesn't sound right. Does "ramps" means something other than "a sloped incline" in this context?

No there were actual ramps in the 3D sections, like in Desert Ruins Zone 1. But I guess they were not scripted as Sonic always moved at a set speed anyway, so the outcome was pretty much the same all the time.

[Detective Kaito]

10 minutes ago, Kellan said:

l hope GUN comes back. It would seem weird for Eggman to completely conquer the world without any resistance from this world's military.

Well, GUN didn't appear in Sonic Unleashed. They kinda forgot about them after Sonic 06, sure they appeared in Sonic Chronicles but that was a spin off. The direction Sega is taking with the series is very different than what it was in the Adventure days, where they used to put a little bit more effort into their stories.

[Chris Knopps]

Just now, Detective Kaito said:

Well, GUN didn't appear in Sonic Unleashed. They kinda forgot about them after Sonic 06, sure they appeared in Sonic Chronicles but that was a spin off. The direction Sega is taking with the series is very different than what it was in the Adventure days, where they used to put a little bit more effort with their stories.

Yep yep yep yep yep...

I think, if GUN does return, it will look like this.

I wouldn't mind.

[Kellan]

20 minutes ago, Sonikko said:

No there were actual ramps in the 3D sections, like in Desert Ruins Zone 1. But I guess they were not scripted as Sonic always moved at a set speed anyway, so the outcome was pretty much the same all the time.

Not really what I meant. I mean it doesn't sound right that every ramp from Sonic Adventure 2 to Sonic Lost World was automated.

13 minutes ago, Detective Kaito said:

Well, GUN didn't appear in Sonic Unleashed. They kinda forgot about them after Sonic 06, sure they appeared in Sonic Chronicles but that was a spin off. The direction Sega is taking with the series is very different than what it was in the Adventure days, where they used to put a little bit more effort into their stories.

Fair enough. I still think that it would be weird for GUN to not be in Forces. With the gunfire in the Modern level, the "Join the Resistance" tagline, the red-star logo, and the fact that it's called "Forces", there seems to be a lot of militaristic imagery here. Maybe I'm just being hopeful.

[Detective Kaito]

Just now, Kellan said:

Fair enough. I still think that it would be weird for GUN to not be in Forces. With the gunfire in the Modern level, the "Join the Resistance" tagline, the red-star logo, and the fact that it's called "Forces", there seems to be a lot of militaristic imagery here. Maybe I'm just being hopeful.

Exactly. It makes too much sense for GUN to be in Forces, that's why Sega won't do it, cause they're like that. lol

[Sonikko]

2 minutes ago, Kellan said:

Not really what I meant. I mean it doesn't sound right that every ramp from Sonic Adventure 2 to Sonic Lost World was automated.

I can't remember any ramp in the games after Adventure 2. I think there were some in Heroes, but then you have Shadow which didn't have any as far as I remember but I didn't play it long enough, so I may be wrong. 2006 had shit physics so the ramps didn't even work. From Unleashed onward they are scripted. 

[Chris Knopps]

1 minute ago, Kellan said:

Not really what I meant. I mean it doesn't sound right that every ramp from Sonic Adventure 2 to Sonic Lost World was automated.

Fair enough. I still think that it would be weird for GUN to not be in Forces. With the gunfire in the Modern level, the "Join the Resistance" tagline, the red-star logo, and the fact that it's called "Forces", there seems to be a lot of militaristic imagery here. Maybe I'm just being hopeful.

The only thing to concern over is how they've said something along the lines of how the reveal trailer doesn't really represent the game more than it's just something to drag attention.

I wish they'd stop trying to reassure people the game isn't what it looks like. That's bullsh@$ of the highest degree. Why be afraid of your own d@$n product? That doesn't do anything but tell consumers your lacking as much confidence as possible.

[Graystripe2000]

9 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

The only thing to concern over is how they've said something along the lines of how the reveal trailer doesn't really represent the game more than it's just something to drag attention.

I don't recall them ever saying that.

[Kellan]

5 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

I don't recall them ever saying that.

From IGN:

Spoiler

Well, while watching the game, I was assured that this is one of the more aesthetically grim parts of the game. So you likely won’t have to worry that the world is meeting its horrific end in a dark and gritty Sonic reboot.

I agree with Chris, I hope they don't shy away from the tone.

[Scar]

There's not shying away from the tone, and there is falling down a tonal black hole. The last thing I want is a super edgy story that attempts to take itself far too seriously and is loaded with poor melodrama. Can be serious and tell an effective a story, without it turning into Shadow or 06. SA2 mostly had this, it just suffered from a not so great script.

[JosepHenry]

How the tone should be: Mix Adventure, Unleashed and Black Knight.

[Kellan]

3 minutes ago, Scar said:

There's not shying away from the tone, and there is falling down a tonal black hole. The last thing I want is a super edgy story that attempts to take itself far too seriously and is loaded with poor melodrama. Can be serious and tell an effective a story, without it turning into Shadow or 06. SA2 mostly had this, it just suffered from a not so great script.

Is there any reason in particular that you're worried about that happening?

[Scar]

2 minutes ago, Kellan said:

Is there any reason in particular that you're worried about that happening?

Well for one, its happened before. But mostly, I'm just pointing out that not going all the way with the tone, isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Chris Knopps]

18 minutes ago, Joseph Mello said:

How the tone should be: Mix Adventure, Unleashed and Black Knight.

Let me correct you there.

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Black Knight

Perfect! That's it.