Sonic Forces | PS4, Xbox One, Switch, PC "The Next Generations"

[Blue Blood]

1 minute ago, Indigo Rush said:

tails had better not be the actual villain in this game i swear to god

> how to make sonic forces even worse 

[Diogenes]

Nah man fucking do it, turn Forces into the ultimate shitshow, it'll be funny.

[Ayliffe]

15 minutes ago, Diogenes said:

Nah man fucking do it, turn Forces into the ultimate shitshow, it'll be funny.

You're saying this like it somehow already isn't the ultimate shitshow :V

[Blue Blood]

22 minutes ago, Diogenes said:

Nah man fucking do it, turn Forces into the ultimate shitshow, it'll be funny.

What could possibly go wrong?

[Nepenthe]

28 minutes ago, Indigo Rush said:

tails had better not be the actual villain in this game i swear to god

"I'll show you not to trust Eggman over me."

[Milo]

Said it a while back, but I think a decent way to make Tails an antagonist for this game would be if Eggman used his experience from his and the Deadly Six's mind-control attempts from Colors and Lost World to succeed in capturing Tails and brainwashing him into his accomplice. It would show Eggman learning from past mistakes (especially given how both attempts ultimately went nowhere) and would be a more plausible setup as to explaining how Eggman was able to finally conquer the planet compared to past attempts in the previous games. Maybe not the most novel idea, but it could be an effective one.

With that said, however, I don't expect the writing in this game to be that aware / interested in past continuity, or clever enough to convincingly pull it off.

[Potada]

Wait a minute...

Characters confirmed for Forces: Sonic, Eggman, Amy, Chaotix, Coldsteel (meaning OC's), & Knuckles

Does this mean that Forces is also getting the most important Sonic character of all?

Spoiler

Oh, and Shadow, too, I guess. Is he still a thing?

 

I'm more curious if this guy comes back.

#questionmarkforces

[Dee Dude]

Hey, on the bright side, they might finally give us our overdue Tails boss fight.

6 minutes ago, Potada said:

I'm more curious if this guy comes back.

#questionmarkforces

"MMMPH"

[Writer's Blah]

15 minutes ago, Nepenthe said:

"I'll show you not to trust Eggman over me."

I swear, if this actually ends up being the game's setup, it's gonna make the House of Cards arc look like Shakespeare by comparison.

[Nepenthe]

1 minute ago, Writer's Blah said:

I swear, if this actually ends up being the game's setup, it's gonna make the House of Cards arc look like Shakespeare by comparison.

I would honestly throw all pretense out the window and buy the game off of something this fucking hilarious.

[Wraith]

Eggman only being able to take over the world entirely through a combination of Tails's intelligence and Sonic's negligence fits how they write all 3 of those characters now pretty well

[Badnik Mechanic]

45 minutes ago, Indigo Rush said:

tails had better not be the actual villain in this game i swear to god

Just look at this post and take it all in as this music plays... you'll see it's not impossible... It's inevitable. 

[Jango]

51 minutes ago, Indigo Rush said:

tails had better not be the actual villain in this game i swear to god

DON'T, SONIC TEAM WILL TAKE NOTE AND ACTUALLY DO IT, YOU BONEHEADS!

[Nepenthe]

Just now, Jango said:

DON'T, SONIC TEAM WILL TAKE NOTE AND ACTUALLY DO IT, YOU BONEHEADS!

I need them to do it. I can at least be morbidly entertained if I can't get the mechanics I want.

[Shaddy Zaphod]

It's not like the story's gonna be good or important anyway, why not go crazy with it?

[Mad0Mura]

Hello, nice to meet you all. I haven't posted here before, but I have been following this forum for a while now. 

Anyway, apparently the game is being written in Japan. So that means that Pontac and Graff are doing the localization? Or maybe I'm reading it wrong? 

https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/867326130071769088

[Salamander]

It's hard to say for sure - an alternative possible reading is that the structure of the story is being created in Japan, and Pontac and Graff are being allowed to write the specifics - but them just handling the localisation makes the most sense, I think.

For my part, I would genuinely prefer a bonkers story to a mediocre one; I'd rather the story fail through trying too hard than fail through not trying at all.  Evil Tails?  Bring it on; if he's been brainwashed or something, I wouldn't even mind.

[Chris Knopps]

2 hours ago, RubyEclipse said:

We felt that Shadow wasn't really an "Evil" character through and through, so Chaotic Neutral made more sense for this post. 

I would like to ask if the thought has come to mind as to whether poking fun at being serious and/or edgy could be detrimental for Sonic Forces reputation and/or sales since the game is selling itself on being these very things SEGA's media outlets mock for publicity...

Just a curious thing I've been pondering lately. Of course it's one thing to poke fun at past titles that used these to their advantage, but when you have a new product in the works and currently being advertised as using such tones/directions as a proposed high point of the title...

Just seems like dangerous promotion to me.

[Roger_van_der_weide]

24 minutes ago, Chris Knopps said:

I would like to ask if the thought has come to mind as to whether poking fun at being serious and/or edgy could be detrimental for Sonic Forces reputation and/or sales since the game is selling itself on being these very things SEGA's media outlets mock for publicity...

Just a curious thing I've been pondering lately. Of course it's one thing to poke fun at past titles that used these to their advantage, but when you have a new product in the works and currently being advertised as using such tones/directions as a proposed high point of the title...

Just seems like dangerous promotion to me.

Or, considering the player is in control of the custom character, Mr. Webber just correctly assumed all of us are inherently evil bastards when it comes to playing games.
As soon as we'll get the chance to, say, throw Omochao out of a space airlock, off he'll go.
At least in my case.
If given the chance, I'll earn my Edgey Evil credentials in no time. MWaHahahahahahaha.

Orrrrrr.... The twitter was making a double reference to the Custom characters AND the return of weapons at the same time. Hmm.

As for promotion, I would assume Sega might get away with it if they show a sense of humor alongside the Dark Edgey imagary....And good gameplay helps, if that would be availeble.

[Writer's Blah]

So, giving it a little more thought, here's some baseless speculation on my end. What if Pontac and Graff were trying to build up to this from the start? What if their intention was to introduce us to the new characterizations with Colors, showing off what bros Sonic and Tails are with each other, softly reintroducing the rest of the cast with Generations, building up the tension between Sonic, Tails, and Eggman in Lost World, and is now culminating with Tails straight up playing traitor to Sonic in Forces? I'm not saying it would suddenly make the writing of these last few games good by any stretch, but what if they actually had a long-term plan going into this?

[JosepHenry]

7 minutes ago, Writer's Blah said:

So, giving it a little more thought, here's some baseless speculation on my end. What if Pontac and Graff were trying to build up to this from the start? What if their intention was to introduce us to the new characterizations with Colors, showing off what bros Sonic and Tails are with each other, softly reintroducing the rest of the cast with Generations, building up the tension between Sonic, Tails, and Eggman in Lost World, and is now culminating with Tails straight up playing traitor to Sonic in Forces? I'm not saying it would suddenly make the writing of these last few games good by any stretch, but what if they actually had a long-term plan going into this?

You mean, Tails was evil the whole time? Wha...??

[Johnny Boy]

3 hours ago, Indigo Rush said:

tails had better not be the actual villain in this game i swear to god

If anything I'm willing to bet that he's probably being Sonic's mole and trying to get useful intel on eggman so that the rest of the team can bring him down.

[StaticMania]

9 minutes ago, Writer's Blah said:

...but what if they actually had a long-term plan going into this?

Anything positive towards those 2 is fine by me, but long-term plans from more comedy based writers? Doesn't seem likely.

[The Tenth Doctor]

Guys, they teased us with a Tails boss fight in 2 of the 3 last main games. I don't need another tease.

[Chris Knopps]

1 minute ago, The Tenth Doctor said:

Guys, they teased us with a Tails boss fight in 2 of the 3 last main games. I don't need another tease.

Ehhhh...

Kind of too typical in my opinion. The sidekick turned rival/nemesis schtick is a little old.

Sounds like a bad DC/Marvel comic.