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Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon
6 minutes ago, Zaysho said:

Man, I haven't seen breakdowns this intense since the last Ace Attorney game I played.

This whole election literally WAS an Ace Attorney case episode.

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It fits even better considering how Phoenix's favorite color is blue.

At first Red was seemingly overpowering the Blue in the Red Mirage Effect on the first day, with some resistance from blue that kept things going to the second day. By the second day, Blue was starting to mount a really good defense to the point where they transitioned to offense. Come the third day and beyond Blue was making a grand stand against the opponent, starting to stomp them, and of course, winning in points by the seat of their pants!

All topped off with a beautiful breakdown from the villain: Trump.

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15 minutes ago, Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon said:

All topped off with a beautiful breakdown from the villain: Trump.

Ironically, Trump does give me some reminders of Redd White. You could even hear this playing right after his embarrassing tweet earlier today about winning by a lot:

 

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Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon
22 minutes ago, Ryannumber1gamer said:

Ironically, Trump does give me some reminders of Redd White. You could even hear this playing right after his embarrassing tweet earlier today about winning by a lot:

 

Yeah, that turned out to be quite an objectionable statement. One that got called the heck out the moment he lost.

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Man this feels amazing. And do you know how shitty of a president you have to be for the world to celebrate like it did at the end of WW2 when they heard of your loss.

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Seeing Trump get kicked to the curb that hard by pretty much everyone renewed my faith in the US’s future, especially since I’m about to become a legal adult this month.

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Your Vest Friend

Man, I swear he really has whipped up a cult. It's not enough for these MAGA shits that they still insist Trump won, a lot of them are insisting that the GOP needs him more than anyone. Imagine what will happen when the Republicans inevitably go for a new presidential candidate. 

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2 hours ago, Your Vest Friend said:

Man, I swear he really has whipped up a cult. It's not enough for these MAGA shits that they still insist Trump won, a lot of them are insisting that the GOP needs him more than anyone. Imagine what will happen when the Republicans inevitably go for a new presidential candidate. 

If we're following the theme of big TV personalities with outrageous rhetoric and questionable worldviews, I imagine they'll go for Tucker Carlson, and he'll somehow be even worse than Trump. 

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Biden’s center rightness showed pretty hard with that speech. Aaand already I’m seeing people freak out at anyone already criticizing Biden for the shit that is most of his political career, by going “nooo you’re just hurting Biden, wait until he’s officially sworn in or you’re helping Trump!”  *sigh*

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US policies don't directly concern me so maybe I shouldn't post but I'm interested in the topic.

So will there be a trial?

And idk you can say what you want about Trump but I honestly didn't mind him and I appreciate him being a president who didn't spoil another sovereign country like 2 previous presidents did.

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14 hours ago, KHCast said:

Biden’s center rightness showed pretty hard with that speech. 

Ah yes, the guy who openly advocates confiscating people's guns and takes money from the CCP is pretty right-wing.

I mean for me, I'm just really glad the dead have political representation this election cycle.

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SenEDDtor Missile

That's rich, given that TRUMP's own tax reports reveals that he has a Chinese Bank account and has been pursuing business projects in China for YEARS, and yet you have the gall to project those traits onto BIDEN? And that's not even taking in how much money he takes from Russia from his blatant money laundering in the past as well, or does the fact that he takes money from a formerly communist nation not matter because the guys in charge are bleach white?

Trumpers are fucking deluded no matter how much they try to pretend otherwise.

Oh, and just in case you want to claim otherwise:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/trump-china-taxes-financial-records/index.html

https://www.vox.com/2020/10/22/21529677/biden-trump-foreign-money-hunter-china

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-china-idUSKBN2762MS

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-maintains-secret-bank-account-in-china-withdrew-dollar15-million-mysteriously-in-2017/ar-BB1agnK4

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/21/donald-trump-china-bank-account-nearly-200000-taxes-report

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-bank-account-china_n_5f8fafdbc5b62333b24032c4

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/10/21/report-trump-paid-nearly-200000-in-taxes-to-china/?sh=67dc67722d92

And these are all some of the first things you can find searching on DuckDuckGo mind you, so it's not like it's hard to find info.

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So, is there even the remotest chance that Trump could try some legal skullduggery to overturn the election results? Or are we pretty much in the clear now?

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39 minutes ago, SenEDDtor Missile said:

That's rich, given that TRUMP's own tax reports reveals that he has a Chinese Bank account and has been pursuing business projects in China for YEARS, and yet you have the gall to project those traits onto BIDEN? And that's not even taking in how much money he takes from Russia from his blatant money laundering in the past as well, or does the fact that he takes money from a formerly communist nation not matter because the guys in charge are bleach white?

Trumpers are fucking deluded no matter how much they try to pretend otherwise.

Oh, and just in case you want to claim otherwise:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/trump-china-taxes-financial-records/index.html

https://www.vox.com/2020/10/22/21529677/biden-trump-foreign-money-hunter-china

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-china-idUSKBN2762MS

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-maintains-secret-bank-account-in-china-withdrew-dollar15-million-mysteriously-in-2017/ar-BB1agnK4

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/21/donald-trump-china-bank-account-nearly-200000-taxes-report

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-bank-account-china_n_5f8fafdbc5b62333b24032c4

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/10/21/report-trump-paid-nearly-200000-in-taxes-to-china/?sh=67dc67722d92

And these are all some of the first things you can find searching on DuckDuckGo mind you, so it's not like it's hard to find info.

Ah yes, Trump's secret Chinese bank account AKA #539 Rachel Maddow made herself look like a complete fucking fool on national TV.

Personally, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't conflate a private business venture that didn't go anywhere which manifested at most a half a million of dollars worth of revenue over the course of a few years before petering out, versus literally selling your political influence for tens of millions of dollars to arrange "meetings". I don't know about you about you, but that's a bit of a false equivalency in my opinion.

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18 minutes ago, Dr. Mechano said:

So, is there even the remotest chance that Trump could try some legal skullduggery to overturn the election results? Or are we pretty much in the clear now?

I find it highly unlikely, but it isn't fully impossible. The people overlooking the matter would have to have an extremely Trump bias to the point of where they'd do anything to put him in charge, since there's no proof of grand scale voter fraud. Not to mention the President's own rhetoric of wanting to keep the votes going in places like Arizona and Nevada, but stopping in places like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. I don't know how anybody could not throw out his lawsuits after that alone. Even if he fails with that and wants every state recounted, then he'll lose because none of the states he lost in are close enough. Even Georgia, which I believe Biden leads by 10,000, is highly unlikely to turn over with a recount. Recounts only really matter when it's like 1,000 or less votes, MAYBE even 2,000. 

They would also likely throw it out on the basis that states ran by majority Republicans didn't allow places like Pennsylvania to count days in advance for millions of mail-in votes, not to mention Trump himself talking nothing but negatively about mail-in voting. This will likely lead mail-in/absentee voting to be much larger Democrat numbers, which anybody with a brain can put together. Even if mail-in votes were being thrown out, which I think he is claiming, it would hurt Democrats WAY more than Republicans. He also claimed fake Democrat ballots because of the large numbers... even though Trump constantly shit talked mail-in voting as I said earlier, so it's obvious there'd be large numbers with Democrat ballots. Everybody knew that most state votes would start off heavily red because those results would come in first. I live in Ohio, and Ohio is a Republican controlled state that actually allowed mail-in votes to be counted early, so that is why Ohio was blue for a while before turning red, yet you don't see Biden claiming anything about Ohio being stolen.

Trump's just a sore loser, and it's pretty clear to nearly everyone not in his cult. It'd take a lot of corruption to get these results thrown out. It's possible, but not very likely. 

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CrownSlayer’s Shadow
2 hours ago, shdowhunt60 said:

Ah yes, the guy who openly advocates confiscating people's guns and takes money from the CCP is pretty right-wing.

That’s still a far cry from the guy that openly tear gassed civilians to hold a bible for a photo op in front of a church that denounced him the next day.

Nevermind the obvious fact of Trump extorting Ukraine to dig up dirt on the guy that beat him by holding their military aid hostage.

If Obama did that shit in the open like that, he’d have been impeached in a heartbeat.

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2 hours ago, shdowhunt60 said:

Ah yes, the guy who openly advocates confiscating people's guns and takes money from the CCP is pretty right-wing.

I mean for me, I'm just really glad the dead have political representation this election cycle.

Trying to paint Biden as super left is honestly fucking funny lol. That’s all I’ll say. 

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9 minutes ago, KHCast said:

Trying to paint Biden as super left is honestly fucking funny lol. That’s all I’ll say. 

Seriously.

Every time the GOP tries to frame Biden as some far-left socialist I'm like, "I wish."

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SenEDDtor Missile
5 minutes ago, Dr. Mechano said:

Seriously.

Every time the GOP tries to frame Biden as some far-left socialist I'm like, "I wish."

Being a left winger is like being a caravan in the middle of the desert, with an oasis on the left end and a giant tombstone on the right. The moderates on our backs range from well meaning and mostly on our side to wishy washy people who keep trying to stop everytime they see an easier oasis nearby that turns out to be a mirage, and the right wingers are the scorpions constantly stinging us in the face, or the guys trying to go in the other way because they think the tombstone has treasure in it despite the warnings.

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3 hours ago, shdowhunt60 said:

Ah yes, the guy who openly advocates confiscating people's guns and takes money from the CCP is pretty right-wing.

Since Trump literally did the first thing while he was in office and has done the second thing for decades as a matter of policy (since you do not commission major factories out of China to make goods for you without working through the CCP), you should try painting a better target.

 

 

Biden politically over his career has largely been somewhere in the ballpark of where Bush was, minus the religious baggage that frequently dominated Bush's presidency. That may change after finally taking the presidency (he wouldn't be the first person to run for President and dramatically swing around his views once he is the active nominee), but you'd do better for being taken seriously if you weren't acting like he's a super-commie. The fact that he wasn't and blatantly wasn't (and that Harris also isn't) is precisely why he was chosen for such a high-stakes election in the first place; because it made it so Trump couldn't reasonably throw the typical GOP boogeyman at him (or her) and have it stick.

 

 

 

 

 

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Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon
6 hours ago, shdowhunt60 said:

I mean for me, I'm just really glad the dead have political representation this election cycle.

Oh, please tell me you're not one of the people buying into that stupid "voter fraud" conspiracy trend.

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There is no credible evidence of voter fraud at all.

Most of what the maga crowd is citing are either fabricated outright, perfeclty legal actions that were taken out of context, or simple human errors that have already been acknowledged and corrected. Remember: Just because someone (even a head of state) makes an outrageous claim on the internet, it doesn't make it true. We need evidence, and there isn't any. It's just Trump whining that he lost. 

What an absolute baby.

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