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I doubt many. I'm still seeing people compare this to Hilary and claim she's still worse. Hell, some of the people that claim to be on neither side, and constantly bring up that yeah Trumps not perfect, seem to always defend trumps decisions or play devils advocate and go "well I mean" or "you're overblowing this" and act like people are getting worried for nothing.

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8 hours ago, Conquering Storm's Servant said:

I'm just waiting to see when and if more of those who voted Trump realize they dun fucked themselves and how many are going to take their arrogant pride to the grave.

Hard-line conservatives will, but they did not elect Trump - it was a relative handful of disaffected voters across the north-eastern US, whose political affiliations traditionally swing Blue. This, of course, provides quite the glimmer of hope for 2020.

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2 hours ago, Patticus said:

Hard-line conservatives will, but they did not elect Trump - it was a relative handful of disaffected voters across the north-eastern US, whose political affiliations traditionally swing Blue. This, of course, provides quite the glimmer of hope for 2020.

If they usually vote blue, aside from the whole jobs spiel, not sure what was so appealing about trump given much of his team and himself went against what the blues viewpoints are.

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people seem to act like Clinton didn't bring up jobs that much, but she kinda did. Not sure why people ignore all the times she brought up and tried involving the working class into her campaign.

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21 hours ago, KHCast said:

I doubt many. I'm still seeing people compare this to Hilary and claim she's still worse. Hell, some of the people that claim to be on neither side, and constantly bring up that yeah Trumps not perfect, seem to always defend trumps decisions or play devils advocate and go "well I mean" or "you're overblowing this" and act like people are getting worried for nothing.

The scariest part about about this is that most of the people who have critcized Hillary for her past experences seem to be very silent on what Donald's bringing to the table. That is very weird considering the fact that they dislike stuff like censorship and removing rights which is what Trump and his handpicked Legion of Doom are gonna do by fighting against ISP laws, LBGT rights, enviromental regulations, opposing views (socialism, liberal ideas, or anything else they consider unamerican), the poor, minimum wages, and the rights of the people.

I agree that Hillary Clinton isn't exactly what you call perfect and for all we know she could've advocated for some bullshit like another SOPA/CISA-esqe law or that "No Fly" Zone in Syria, but at least her team would've been for the rights of the people and the enviroment. Plus if her health had declined to the point where she can't lead anymore then we would just have Tim Kaine for the rest of her term which seems to be the better choice in the long run. While on the other hand if Trumps dies in office then we would have to deal with someone who is less crazy but just as bad (Mike Pence).

 

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It's a little worrying that the Clintonian ethos will be embedded in the DNC for years to come, but it would be wise to remember that Clinton did get almost 3 million more votes than Trump - the message was fine, it was the messenger who was not.

Anyway...

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Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.

The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations, which are based primarily on information from Russian sources, but has not confirmed many essential details in the memos about Mr. Trump.

The classified briefings last week were presented by four of the senior-most US intelligence chiefs -- Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.

One reason the nation's intelligence chiefs took the extraordinary step of including the synopsis in the briefing documents was to make the President-elect aware that such allegations involving him are circulating among intelligence agencies, senior members of Congress and other government officials in Washington, multiple sources tell CNN.

These senior intelligence officials also included the synopsis to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats. This synopsis was not an official part of the report from the intelligence community case about Russian hacks, but some officials said it augmented the evidence that Moscow intended to harm Clinton's candidacy and help Trump's, several officials with knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.

The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

The Russians had personal information on Trump which they could blackmail him with, and were communicating with his team throughout the election campaign. Wonder if they've got anything on those allegations of pedophilia?

Apparently, Buzzfeed has the full report, the veracity of which cannot be attested to at present,which is why the major news sites aren't running with it yet, but if it's true...

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.usd6oPy18#.ueDoY2kqM

Other notable parts I've found while briefly skimming through include the revelation that the Clinton campaign itself had been infiltrated by Russian agents/facilitators (sympathizers?), and that Trump made up for a lack of business success in Russia by engaging in a ton of sexcapades/sex parties with prostitutes (see above for one one instance), witnesses to which were bribed into disappearing. Also, Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen met with Russian leadership and is currently engaged in covering up the extent of Trump's dealings with Russia.

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I thought the question was what the fuck is wrong with the voters who elected this man?

We already knew what was wrong with Trump from the start, at least with the more tangible evidence we had. His voters just didn't seem to give a damn for some peculiar reason.

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If anybody else were found out to have booked a hotel room once slept in by a couple he or she knew (of), and proceeded to make a bunch of prostitutes defile the bed with their bodily fluids, you would think the instigator a deeply disturbed individual, perhaps worth watching in case they went and murdered someone. Definitely worthy of a stay in a mental facility, you'd think.

This is going to haunt Trump for a while, I think. Twitter is all abuzz with it - #watersportsgate and #goldenshowers are among the top trending hashtags of the night.

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1 minute ago, Patticus said:

If anybody else were found out to have booked a hotel room once slept in by a couple he or she knew (of), and proceeded to make a bunch of prostitutes defile the bed with their bodily fluids, you would think the instigator a deeply disturbed individual, perhaps worth watching in case they went and murdered someone. Definitely worthy of a stay in a mental facility, you'd think.

This is going to haunt Trump for a while, I think. Twitter is all abuzz with it - #watersportsgate and #goldenshowers are among the top trending hashtags of the night.

Haunt him how?

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3 minutes ago, CD Sanic said:

Haunt him how?

It will keep coming up and keep being talked about by the press. You'll hear about it every so often for years to come, especially if witnesses can be persuaded to come forward. This would be career-ending under normal circumstances, but with Trump it'll just be another scandal to add to the pile - which also keep coming back.

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Didn't take long to get to him, did it? Such thin skin. I bet that without all that orange makeup, you could see his musculature, organs and bones through his skin.

Of course, since that report hasn't yet been verified, he and his supporters do have that "fake news" line to fall back on, but surely it's only a matter of time before it does get verified?

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You know, the more I hear of this and discuss with others the more I have a hard time not seeing this ending in impeachment pretty early into Trump's regime. If he really DID collude with the Russian Government, then that's treason. You know, one of the harshest crimes, under law, out there.

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7 minutes ago, Conando said:

You know, the more I hear of this and discuss with others the more I have a hard time not seeing this ending in impeachment pretty early into Trump's regime. If he really DID collude with the Russian Government, then that's treason. You know, one of the harshest crimes, under law, out there.

Which is why I expect the Republican Regime to change the rules so that they can do whatever they want while punishing all Democrats/LGBT/minorities/non-Christians in the process.

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It's not that simple, they'd have to dismantle the entire constitution and system of law to make treason not a crime, it's literally part of the foundation of the justice system. Trump and his goons might somehow think that's a good idea, but even most neo conservatives aren't going to fuck with the literal foundation of America.

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