Archie Sonic Hiatus Discussion

[Ryannumber1gamer]

I would frankly be fine with it going to a new publisher granted they kept the same writers and cast like IDW's Disney comics.

[Borvoc]

4 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

Do not jinx it, I'm trying to be optimistic here!

PleasekeeptheArchiecastwhatevertheoutcomeisandpleasekeepMr.Flynntooohpleeeeeaaaaseee!!!!

I'm with you. I just meant that that sounded vaguely like a threat.

[BlueSky]

Just now, Mayor D said:

Probably gone to a new publisher.

o___o

PleasekeeptheArchiecastwhatevertheoutcomeisandpleasekeepMr.Flynntooohpleeeeeaaaaseee!!!!

Jeez this anticipationis killing me. And yes, I'll keep on doing this unless it becomes illegal or I somehow irritate people too much with it. It is my safety blanket! My blanket ticket to sanity! Please higher ups!

Also @Borvoc, I tip my imaginary hat for you for bringing Mr. Webber's true intentions to the daylight few posts before.

[Badnik Mechanic]

1 minute ago, BlueSky said:

o___o

PleasekeeptheArchiecastwhatevertheoutcomeisandpleasekeepMr.Flynntooohpleeeeeaaaaseee!!!!

 

Will need to completely reboot if it wants a chance to succeed 

[Red Hot Jack]

Ian said we'd get news this month, so he knew about it... which means he's involved in the future of the comic? Fingers crossed.

[Borvoc]

I just want whatever's best for everyone involved, including the readers.

1 minute ago, Mayor D said:

Will need to completely reboot if it wants a chance to succeed 

I'll politely disagree, as I think that's one major way they could guarantee the book's failure.

[Badnik Mechanic]

1 minute ago, Borvoc said:

 

I'll politely disagree, as I think that's one major way they could guarantee the book's failure.

"Hey here's our new license from Sega.... you just need to have read all these comics from another publisher to know whats going on."

If that happened. Nobody new would buy it. I certainly wouldn't touch it since it'll just be a glorified continuation.

[zephyrzaivian]

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's anything good.

[Zeer]

Overdrive is likely coming out at the very least, there's high demand and both Archie and SEGA were high on the previous Mega Drive issues. The main books are another thing, though. I wouldn't rule out a relaunch with new No. 1's (which should've happened at the reboot anyway) or even another reboot with focusing strictly on the game cast. Especially since this news is probably dropping at the big convention.

[Ryannumber1gamer]

3 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

"Hey here's our new license from Sega.... you just need to have read all these comics from another publisher to know whats going on."

If that happened. Nobody new would buy it. I certainly wouldn't touch it since it'll just be a glorified continuation.

...except where the comic left off, excluding Genesis of a Hero was meant to be an arc specifically designed for introducing new readers to the comic cast and giving them focus, which would have then moved into the Sega cast, considering a story featured Sonic, Mighty and Ray's backstories were the last solicited comic.

[BlueSky]

1 minute ago, Mayor D said:

Will need to completely reboot if it wants a chance to succeed 

Yes, I'm selfish about this thing, but still, I'm not really sure about anything at the moment, since like with every other human being in this planet, even my coordinates are fixed in my bellybutton; meaning I can't talk for others so I shall tell the world what I'd like to see to happen.

PleasekeeptheArchiecastwhatevertheoutcomeisandpleasekeepMr.Flynntooohpleeeeeaaaaseee!!!!

2 minutes ago, Borvoc said:

I just want whatever's best for everyone involved, including the readers.

I'll politely disagree, as I think that's one major way they could guarantee the book's failure.

Well kind of, the fluctuation may not be too good of an idea, that's what history tells to me at least.

8 minutes ago, Borvoc said:

I'm with you. I just meant that that sounded vaguely like a threat.

Well yeah, I just made a joke go a bit too faaaaar awaayyy...

I swear I haven't eaten anything odd "today", except maybe those strawberries that were few days old...

3 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

"Hey here's our new license from Sega.... you just need to have read all these comics from another publisher to know whats going on."

Lol.

It'd be a lot easier if they'll bring Mr. Flynn and others along.

[Shaddy Zaphod]

A full re...or, I guess "preboot" would be the best way to do things IMO. AKA, take the post-SGW continuity, and show all the stuff that happened before the shattered world stuff, then continue on from after the shattered world crisis (republish it without any mention of SGW stuff?). Make one canon, that is Flynn's canon, because his is the best, that you can read from the beginning up till now without much need for this spinoff or that one.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

26 minutes ago, Borvoc said:

I just want whatever's best for everyone involved, including the readers.

I'll politely disagree, as I think that's one major way they could guarantee the book's failure.

The success of it is up in the air. Although there's a definite guarantee they'll lose a large portion of the reader base if they do reboot in the worst case where it's entirely game cast and no FFs and Egg Bosses given that many people still like them, especially the Egg Bosses.

Can't say if that means much given that the main comics primarily sell between 3-5k issues, so who knows how many people would leave and who would take their place? Heck, even Megadrive 2 sold less than both the Main Comic and Universe individually in the first month it was released, so take that how you will.

25 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

"Hey here's our new license from Sega.... you just need to have read all these comics from another publisher to know whats going on."

If that happened. Nobody new would buy it. I certainly wouldn't touch it since it'll just be a glorified continuation.

Which is just mere speculation, and the bolded is nonsense in general.

New people have came and bought the comics before and during the reboot in the past, and new people will still buy it along with the old readerbase if it just continues as is. And whether they choose to read the comics from another publisher is entirely their choice because nothing really says they have too other than trying to keep up with the current arc. That's like saying new readers have to read the first Batman issue to understand what's going on in general, when in reality no you don't. But were they to continue things, I'd expect the new publisher to have the rights to them and could print them at their leisure via graphic novels to ease the new readers in depending on their decision.

Sure some new readers haven't liked the comics, but others have. So if they don't reboot, that wouldn't guarantee a failure. You may not touch it, and that's perfectly fine, but comics in general aren't exactly the hotcakes they used to be in the past. So that's not really a nail in the coffin. Either way, I think the very least the old readerbase would want is not to lose the characters from this continuity like they did in the last one for the second time--you can start from the beginning with these characters and make a fresh start without losing the cast.

[Red Hot Jack]

I agree that the reboot and Genesis of a Hero were supposed to be the introduction for a lot of new readers, which didn't happen for some reason, most people still think the comics are about romance, furry drama, and dark and gritty stories, and that they don't focus on the Sega cast.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

1 minute ago, Chameleon94 said:

I agree that the reboot and Genesis of a Hero were supposed to be the introduction for a lot of new readers, which didn't happen for some reason, most people still think the comics are about romance, furry drama, and dark and gritty stories, and that they don't focus on the Sega cast.

Good lord. Talk about being several years out of date for the most part...

The dark and gritty stories part tho...that just made me laugh that people still have this "anti-dark" mentality. But whatever.

[BlueSky]

3 minutes ago, Chameleon94 said:

I agree that the reboot and Genesis of a Hero were supposed to be the introduction for a lot of new readers, which didn't happen for some reason, most people still think the comics are about romance, furry drama, and dark and gritty stories, and that they don't focus on the Sega cast.

And those guys really need to step it up, there's like, one(?) pairing left and it's been pretty mild after the reboot...

[Your Vest Friend]

He...honestly sounded rather neutral to me. I'm not anticipating the best-case scenario at all. 

[Shaddy Zaphod]

14 minutes ago, Chameleon94 said:

I agree that the reboot and Genesis of a Hero were supposed to be the introduction for a lot of new readers, which didn't happen for some reason, most people still think the comics are about romance, furry drama, and dark and gritty stories, and that they don't focus on the Sega cast.

Well you see that's because it's something Sonic related. If it's related to Sonic, you never need to research anything and can just let your decade-old knowledge and opinions of the franchise decide what it actually is. That's how it works, right?

[Badnik Mechanic]

24 minutes ago, Conquering Storm's Servant said:

Which is just mere speculation, and the bolded is nonsense in general.

Archies perception & baggage > what ever the reality is today.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

4 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

Archies perception & baggage > what ever the reality is today.

The reality today is that comics in general don't make all that much money anyway, so a new publisher being given the liscense without that baggage isn't going to see a major increase in sales regardless of whether it's Archies baggage or not. Not even Megadrive was that big a hit, and that's saying something about Sonic comics.

[Badnik Mechanic]

4 minutes ago, Conquering Storm's Servant said:

The reality today is that comics in general don't make all that much money anyway, so a new publisher being given the liscense without that baggage isn't going to see a major increase in sales regardless of whether it's Archies baggage or not. Not even Megadrive was that big a hit, and that's saying something about Sonic comics.

Yeah so scrap the Archie baggage and start fresh... Like I said.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

1 minute ago, Mayor D said:

Yeah so scrap the Archie baggage and star fresh... Like I said.

Or not, and let it continue...like others have said.

And you and those not fond of it are more than welcome not to bother with it at all as you have before.

[Ryannumber1gamer]

2 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

Yeah so scrap the Archie baggage and start fresh... Like I said.

And then lose the previous readership who kept the comic afloat for this long because they're gonna be livid that the comic elements they enjoyed is now gone, and it's going to end up more like the games, that already many people jumped to the comic because of the comic had more of a world, story, and stakes than the majority of the recent games, so by doing this, they'd be taking a massive gamble at hoping they get lucky and attracting new readers.

[Badnik Mechanic]

3 minutes ago, Conquering Storm's Servant said:

Or not, and let it continue...like others have said.

And you and those not fond of it are more than welcome not to bother with it at all as you have before.

But you just indicated it wouldn't harm sales and suggested it would increase it.

Also in the Nintendo buying Sonic thread you also supported the idea of "reorganize the entire verse and make it coherent and cohesive, in addition to making a really good game out of it"

So a new publisher doing that would be bad because.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

4 minutes ago, Mayor D said:

But you just indicated it wouldn't harm sales and suggested it would increase it.

...I actually said the exact opposite, so you didn't read that part very well.

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Also in the Nintendo buying Sonic thread you also supported the idea of "reorganize the entire verse and make it coherent and cohesive, in addition to making a really good game out of it"

So a new publisher doing that would be bad because.

Games and comics are two different medias with different sizes of fandoms, cost productions, and a slew of other factors. That is a massive apples and orange comparison if there ever was one, dude. Plus, I was looking at a best case scenario of them not scrapping like you're suggesting here and having them keep things for the most part.