Megathread IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

[dbzfan7]

4 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

What are your hopes for the year 2 era ??

-A less safe story. 

-Redeeming my boy Tails after years of garbage.

-Keeping out the Freedom Fighters.

[Red Hot Jack]

19 minutes ago, Razule said:

Everyone's favorite character, Classic Sonic!

3 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Freedom Fighters and other old characters.

Ew. Personal opinions, but... no to both of those, for me.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind those characters, but we don't need two Sonics together or the FFs taking all the screentime again.

[antyep]

17 minutes ago, I Love Sticks said:

Ew. Personal opinions, but... no to both of those, for me.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind those characters, but we don't need two Sonics together or the FFs taking all the screentime again.

Well we can agree to disagree about the FFs. I’m pretty sure they’ll make a Classic Sonic series and if they do bring in the FFs, they’ll be Classic-locked.

[PublicEnemy1]

52 minutes ago, dbzfan7 said:

-Redeeming my boy Tails after years of garbage.

Ian's already starting to do that since Issue 1 of IDW.

[dbzfan7]

1 minute ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Ian's already starting to do that since Issue 1 of IDW.

I'm well aware.

[Kazhnuz]

5 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

What are your hopes for the year 2 era ?? 

- Them digging out some obscure/underused stuff of the Adventure/Modern era and doing interesting things with it. There are a lot of things that could be great, especially in spinoff. (for me even the Deadly Six could become pretty cool if used correctly). I especially would love Metal Knuckles of Sonic Advance appearing at one moment xD

- A second comic-book or some mini-series.

- A non-Eggman villain.

- When Eggman come back, him starting to build a more organic "empire" (with other character in it like it was in Archie) or at the extreme contrary be more like his X/Anniversary Comic self. For the first possibility, it would be interesting if it was because of a reflection with how the resistance worked, and him seeing the advantages of having a "cohesive" team. For the second, it's because I'm really liking more and more how Eggman was in X. It would be a nice change after the more "evil" ArchieSonic Eggman. (Maybe the two aren't totally incompatible, though, with the "empire" being more of a big "Team Eggman" than a real force)

- The human world appearing, especially if at least one of the mobian have something to say about GUN's inaction in Forces. I would especially love it if they play with the difference between how works Earth and how works the Animal World.

- IDW getting the rights of ArchieSonic repriting/material (yeah, I know, this one is pretty uncertain, but eh, maybe Archie will see it as some easy cash to spend on their new season of Riverdale ? :'D), and maybe using some of the best stuff one day (I'm not asking of IDWSonic to become ArchieSonic, though, it's just that some stuff could be nice to reuse, LIKE MAH BOI ECLIPSE)

( I would also said "the Freedom Fighter or other DiC characters as secondary characters", but the Y2 is already planned without "new" characters, so if they'll appear it'll be later. But I would still love them as secondary characters that appear once in a while, especially as they could be used to flesh out a bit Sonic's World. )

[Sega DogTagz]

I'd love to see Ian expand and recreate with the toys already in his playpen. Losing Tikal again after so long was like a gut punch. He's really good at finding great spots for underutilized characters, so if we arn't going to be getting any "new" characters in year 2, then I would hope that he has interesting and fresh spins on the characters we already have.

It may be too soon to re-tread Tikal and Gmel (I would welcome them with open arms tho) but there are still plenty of other characters that can step up and fill in important bit roles. Erazor Djinn and Sharah could be a fun distraction for a bit. Lumina and Void could too. The B Rouges are perpetually underutilized and then there is the whole Nega issue... there is a lot you could play with over the next year that would probably skirt the "new character" dodge.

[Multikaris]

8 minutes ago, Kazhnuz said:

- Them digging out some obscure/underused stuff of the Adventure/Modern era.

- A second comic-book or some mini-series.

- A non-Eggman villain.

- When Eggman come back, him starting to build a more organic "empire" (with other character in it like it was in Archie) or at the extreme contrary be more like his X/Anniversary Comic self. For the first possibility, it would be interesting if it was because of a reflection with how the resistance worked, and him seeing the advantages of having a "cohesive" team.

- The human world appearing, especially if at least one of the mobian have something to say about GUN's inaction in Forces.

- IDW getting the rights of ArchieSonic repriting/material (yeah, I know, this one is pretty uncertain, but eh, maybe Archie will see it as some easy cash to spend on their new season of Riverdale ? :'D).

(I would also said "the Freedom Fighter or other DiC characters", but the Y2 is already planned without "new" characters, so if they'll appear it'll be later. But I would still love them as secondary characters. )

If Eggman is made like his Anniversary comic version, a new villain that’s like the old Eggman would be perfect. Or maybe just have Nega do that. 

[Fire-N-Space]

Just now, Marco9966 said:

What are your hopes for the year 2 era ??

A non boring and generic Amy Rose, where they add more to her character and not just subtract her affection for Sonic away then act like they completely improved her character.

[Marco9966]

I hope to return to Tangle's town, see what's between Whisper and Shadow, and the remaining Modern characters like Cream and Big to appear.

[Forte-Metallix]

7 minutes ago, Fire-N-Space said:

A non boring and generic Amy Rose, where they add more to her character and not just subtract her affection for Sonic away then act like they completely improved her character.

They improved her character by giving her a purpose other than chasing Sonic. She's the real head of the Resistance, capable of holding her own in a fight, working with others, and still having a professional relationship with Sonic without her one-sided affections jeopardizing the mission. Not to mention the way she and Sonic tease/fluster each other in Issue 2 was a million times more endearing than having her scream his name and throw a violent tantrum when he doesn't take the bait.

A crush != a personality.

[Fire-N-Space]

Just now, Fear-Metallix said:

They improved her character by giving her a purpose other than chasing Sonic. She's the real head of the Resistance, capable of holding her own in a fight, working with others, and still having a professional relationship with Sonic without her one-sided affections jeopardizing the mission. Not to mention the way she and Sonic tease/fluster each other in Issue 2 was a million times more endearing than having her scream his name and throw a violent tantrum when he doesn't take the bait.

A crush != a personality.

I don't know why Amy gets all this suddenly when she has less affection for Sonic but she can already fight on her own, work with others and stuff when she was actively thinking about Sonic and there was no need to keep repeating about how mature or grown up she was. Sonic Heroes had much better teasing and flustering than this book that thinks subtracting from one's personality without adding anything in return somehow makes her better. When has Amy's affection ever jeopardize the mission?

I would like to see Amy be Amy and not a poor mans pink Sonic.

[MightyRay]

22 minutes ago, Fire-N-Space said:

I don't know why Amy gets all this suddenly when she has less affection for Sonic but she can already fight on her own, work with others and stuff when she was actively thinking about Sonic and there was no need to keep repeating about how mature or grown up she was. Sonic Heroes had much better teasing and flustering than this book that thinks subtracting from one's personality without adding anything in return somehow makes her better. When Amy affection ever jeopardizing the mission?

I would like to see Amy be Amy and not a poor mans pink Sonic.

You and I must have played two different games because Amy in Heroes was 90% annoying to me. Like the girl made Cream nervous when she questioned if Sonic actually liked her not to mention how irritated Sonic was when she found him in the city boss fight. And the ending he was like "I'm off" as soon as Amy chased after him. Like Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are way, way better examples than Heroes.

Also I'm sorry but I've been lurking on this board for ages and if I didn't know any better I'd swear you were just trolling around via using your enjoyment of Amy to rile people up. Like I've got no beef with talking about Amy and she's O.K. to me but the way you do it is boarding on over the top.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

2 hours ago, I Love Sticks said:

Ew. Personal opinions, but... no to both of those, for me.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind those characters, but we don't need two Sonics together or the FFs taking all the screentime again.

I can understand not wanting two Sonic’s, but why are we still insisting that the FF took all the screentime when that isn’t true? Especially when it came to post-reboot Archie—it’s no different than having Tangle and Whisper around here in IDW.

[Flame Lance]

Most importantly, I want my bunny, Cream to finally show up. Bonus points if she gets interactions with Blaze. Would also love for underutilized characters that aren't making the cut for year one to appear in year two, such as the Rogues, Big, Sticks, Marine and whoever else. 

I also wish to see some hard focus on Tangle and Whisper, as well as the skunk bros, and it looks like the latter will be getting just that in issue 13. 

[Fire-N-Space]

Just now, MightyRay said:

You and I must have played two different games because Amy in Heroes was 90% annoying to me. Like the girl made Cream nervous when she questioned if Sonic actually liked her not to mention how irritated Sonic was when she found him in the city boss fight. And the ending he was like "I'm off" as soon as Amy chased after him. Like Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are way, way better examples than Heroes.

Also I'm sorry but I've been lurking on this board for ages and if I didn't know any better I'd swear you were just trolling around via using your enjoyment of Amy to rile people up. Like I've got no beef with talking about Amy and she's O.K. to me but the way you do it is boarding on over the top.

We must have played different games as I love Amy in Heroes Adventures is good but Heroes is a way better example of who Amy is. I don't remember Cream being nervous after the battle with Team Sonic.

The better question is why do people get riled up so easily when people start talking about Amy I wish I had a dollar every time I see someone taking about Amy get a speech about how she was never good from a complete stranger. I seen plenty of people tell me how their only O.K with Amy every time I talk about her, so I just got use to people getting rile up all the time around me. I should be able say something if I think she's getting the short end of the stick.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

32 minutes ago, Fire-N-Space said:

The better question is why do people get riled up so easily when people start talking about Amy I wish I had a dollar every time I see someone taking about Amy get a speech about how she was never good from a complete stranger.

Except they don’t get riled up so easily given that people like Amy when she’s not defined as someone obsessed with Sonic all the time and don’t think she’s being given the short end of the stick.

Your comments are the ones that stand out over this, actually.

[MightyRay]

41 minutes ago, Fire-N-Space said:

We must have played different games as I love Amy in Heroes Adventures is good but Heroes is a way better example of who Amy is. I don't remember Cream being nervous after the battle with Team Sonic.

The better question is why do people get riled up so easily when people start talking about Amy I wish I had a dollar every time I see someone taking about Amy get a speech about how she was never good from a complete stranger. I seen plenty of people tell me how their only O.K with Amy every time I talk about her, so I just got use to people getting rile up all the time around me. I should be able say something if I think she's getting the short end of the stick.

So the scenes where Amy's positive nature helps get through to Shadow and stops Sonic from smashing Gamma into tiny bits pales in comparison to her, what, ignoring boundires and dissing Vector?

O.K., different strokes for different folks I guess.

Now to answer your question about why people get cranky when the pink marshmallow gets brought up, from my experience is the obnoxiousness of it all, I've seen so many shipping wars lead by over the top SonAmy fans who only view Amy as a character if she's with Sonic, and, who get very, very upset if Amy isn't the star or isn't joined to Sonic's hip. And she's not allowed to show anything else but her love and that's it. It really puts me off which is a shame cause I know she is a decent character and has done some cool stuff in the past. 

And I see it in you, how you throw folks under bus both real life and fictional, and how when asked why, you tend to be really dismissive of others questioning you. Like I said earlier, I, myself have got no beef with you talking about Amy, but it's how you express yourself in your words and comments that tend to annoy folks and you don't seem terribly interested in engaging and listening to the other side, which can be poison for lurkers who may wanna engage. I'm glad folks like to see your passion about Amy, that's great! Just remember, you can express your opinion here but people are going to challenge it and engage if they think somethings up.

I'm going to leave it here before it completely derails the thread, which I don't want. Anyway, you have a nice day and I'll see you later.

[DabigRG]

1 hour ago, MightyRay said:

. Like the girl made Cream nervous when she questioned if Sonic actually liked her 

 

44 minutes ago, Fire-N-Space said:

We must have played different games as I love Amy in Heroes Adventures is good but Heroes is a way better example of who Amy is. I don't remember Cream being nervous after the battle with Team Sonic.

 

It wasn't really Amy making Cream nervous at the beginning of Casino Park so much as Cream wondering the true nature of Sonic's feelings regarding Amy aloud and scratching the train of thought once she realized Amy was listening, hence her awkward little giggle.

Granted, I'm not familiar with the Japanese version of the scene and the voice direction of the English scene might've been a little off, but as far as the visual collaboration goes, Amy didn't seem to really catch on to what Cream was actually thinking and was honestly curious as to what her take on his running is.

[Fire-N-Space]

Just now, Conquering Storm’s Servant said:

Except they don’t get riled up so easily given that people like Amy when she’s not defined as someone obsessed with Sonic all the time.

Your comments are the ones that stand out over this, actually.

Not everyone calls her obsessed every time she looks at Sonic like some do.

 

Just now, MightyRay said:

So the scene's where Amy's positive nature helps get through to Shadow and stop Sonic from smashing Gamma into tiny bits pales in comparison to her what, ignoring boundires and dissing Vector?

O.K. different strokes for different folks I guess.

Now to answer your question about who people get cranky when the pink marshmallow gets brought up, from my experience is the obnoxiousness of it all, I've seen so many shipping wars lead by over the top SonAmy fans who only Amy as a character if she's with Sonic and, who get very, very upset if Amy isn't the star or is joined to Sonic's hip. And she's not allowed to show anything else but her love and that's it. It really puts me off which is a shame cause I know she is a decent character and has done some cool stuff in the past. 

And I see it in you, how you throw folks under bus both real life and fictional, , and how when asked why you tend to be really dismissive of others questioning you. Like I said earlier I (myself) have got no beef with you talking about Amy, but it's how you express yourself in your words and comments that tend to annoy folks and you don't seem terribly interested in engaging and listening to the other side which can be poison for lurkers who may wanna engage. I'm glad folks like to see your passion about Amy that's great! Just remember you can express your opinion here but people are going to challenge it and engage if they think somethings up.

I'm going to leave it here before it completely derails the thread which I don't want. Anyway you have a nice day and I'll see you later.

Lol what!?

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

59 minutes ago, Fire-N-Space said:

Not everyone calls her obsessed every time she looks at Sonic like some do.

I don’t think you’re actually reading what people are saying then, much less what I was saying.

Not on this site at least.

 

[Kuzu]

Amy is at her best when she's actually given a character beyond just loving Sonic, so I'm all aboard things that allow her to grow out of just being a fangirl. 

 

If people just love her because she obsesses over Sonic and want her to be defined by that, hey I'm not gonna tell you that's wrong. But I think it's important to understand why that's not really popular nor does it make for a very interesting or engaging character and does in fact, get really fucking grating. 

[Diogenes]

2 hours ago, DabigRG said:

It wasn't really Amy making Cream nervous at the beginning of Casino Park so much as Cream wondering the true nature of Sonic's feelings regarding Amy aloud and scratching the train of thought once she realized Amy was listening, hence her awkward little giggle.

Granted, I'm not familiar with the Japanese version of the scene and the voice direction of the English scene might've been a little off, but as far as the visual collaboration goes, Amy didn't seem to really catch on to what Cream was actually thinking and was honestly curious as to what her take on his running is.

Looking it up, Amy certainly sounds more...intense... in the Japanese version. I've always assumed it was meant to be an "and what exactly are you implying?" kind of moment that the English voice actor/director flubbed, because the alternative is just boring.

On the subject of Amy in general, while she should be more than just Sonic's #1 fangirl, I wouldn't want them to downplay that side of her too much. I like my Sonic character personalities to be big, bold, and flawed, and if they focus too much on making her less annoying and more "useful" she might end up just being boring and generic. Plus, I think some amount of conflict and tension between the heroes is important, and she's one of the rare sources of it, even rarer that it's not based in rivalry. A bunch of characters working together effectively and without issue doesn't make for much of a story, and conflict from within can be just as compelling as conflict from without.

And as far as IDW Sonic's take on Amy, issue 2 was pretty good; a little verbal jousting between them, a bit of swooning on Amy's end, and some solid combat teamwork. They've clearly got a different dynamic than other characters, and one that's not entirely without tension. Past that she's been kinda dull, though; just being a reasonably competent leader isn't that interesting and it doesn't really play to her strengths. Though in fairness at this point they're juggling over a dozen characters and there isn't enough space to give any of them much focus, so maybe they'll do better once they're past this mess.

[SBR2]

I'll take in charge leader Amy over "MY SONIC! I'M GOING TO FORCE YOU INTO MARRIAGE AGAINST YOUR WILL AND IF YOU LOOK AT ANOTHER GIRL IN ANY CONTEXT I'LL BECOME TERRIFYINGLY VIOLENT!"

Like seriously never bring that back if you ask me. 

[StaticMania]

That was never a thing. Don't exaggerate the character's bad writing even more than it's already been.