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3 hours ago, Dr. Detective Mike said:

Good lord, Ian Eggman is just as ruthless as ever. Extended scenes of torturing little animals. Truly horrific. 

I do tend to forgive the more ruthless nature of his version of Eggman considering how well written it is. If he were to ever start writing for the games, I'd probably opt for it to be toned down a bit but he works it well.

Yeah, I'm still enjoying this. I thought the issue was funny. Despite the interactions between Rough and Tumble, my boy Tails was the highlight here. His reactions and the way he handled himself was comedic in a way that felt like it appropriately knew how to utilize his standing as a little nerd.

I mean, you just know little algebra calculations are going off like fireworks in his head everytime he gets something thrown at him.

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Finally someone else recognizing the greatness of the MVP of this chapter.

"Do you want Rough or"
"Yes"

 

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5 hours ago, DabigRG said:

So, she was playable in a Classic spinoff.

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+. Rough is the little gray-blue one, Tumble is the big beige one.

=. I think he's supposed to be a little of both--obviously intended to eventually branch off with his own thing, but for now is genuinely interested in working with Eggman himself.

-. It's likely because Sonic kinda wanted to step in anyway to cover Tails since Tumble had that hammer block thing. And out of universe, they probably didn't have this exact encounter [all the way] planned when they originally designed them and just wanted to squeeze the gag in when they did notice the opportunity. Also, Rough pretty much looks like an evil Tails anyway.

 

You missed my point.  Jack the Shadow said he was sure Honey would be in the next Classic Sonic game.  It's a safe bet that there is going to be one, given that Sonic Mania was very successful.  What is not a safe bet is that it will be a spin-off.  Classic Sonic got all manner of spin-offs pre-Dreamcast era because back then he was the Sonic, and at times popular enough to sell just about anything.  These days, though, it's Modern Sonic that gets the spin-offs and experimentation in the main series, while Classic Sonic is the branch that plays it more straight.  My question for Jack the Shadow is why he thinks a character made for a fighting spin-off is going to appear in what will most likely be Sega Genesis-style Sonic platformer.  Did he mis-speak?

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1 hour ago, StaticMania said:

I mean, Tails wouldn't really be able to actually fight Tumble...so he made the right call. Unless it was a tag team battle and I still can't see it happening.

Pretty sure he could, but what we got is fine.

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About locations: What we need are memorable locations (which we don't have yet, but giving names is a start). In Archie Flynn started with already full world and in Reboot he took extra time to develop every place. Ironically to the point when we complained. Now that we switched from 4-parters to single issue stories there is little place to develop locations, focus is on characters. And let's be fair, that's improvement. What do you prefer, learn about Meropis-chao culture or see Tails be awesome? Compare it to Rotor in "Wave of Change" who in 4 issues he didn't do squat.
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I don't believe those idea are mutually exclusive.Step One: Take any zone aesthetic and reshape it into a city. Step two: put that city into background of character-focus story. Step three: return location till new small pieces of trivia about it. Step four: profit, location  feels alive. If you have a time, make actual story about it.

On the other subject I really like to compare Sonic and Tails in this issue. In #1 Tails felt (just a little bit) like Sonic little copy. But here?

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Even when he's trying to look cool like Sonic, he's kinda dorky or over expressive. I love it.

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Yep. Okay, here is how to improve the book:

- Give world building meaning, as people said, epic memorable locations, not this that adds nothing. So far we are getting villages.

- Change the cast a bit, now we agreed that we need less characters, I believe Big and Sticks fit here as heroes, we already have a cast of villains, these 2 fit in this particular storyline because they live in the jungle, they can help locate the Final Egg Base (especially Big since it's in Mystic Ruins), and they tie with the nature vs technology and virus themes. But I'm sure Sticks will get replaced by Cream or a new character.

- Keep showing Eggman as a ruthless villain, he's delicious at it, as well as keep the characters being well written, it's good so far, but obviously not enough to carry a book...

- Make the story and issues structure not samey, change it, give more variety, this set up already reminds us of Season 1 so change it… I don't want the Whole book as Sonic and a friend fight badniks/villains. I thought issues 5-7 and 9-11 handled it pretty well.

- Less fanservice, don't give the fans what they want, Ian should follow his instinct and competence, not listen to the fans and try to please them, when it's not possible.

- Try to find a loophole for the mandates, for example I hate the 2 worlds thing but I'd rather have it explored, plus: How does Silver time travel? I thought with 2 hedgehogs and 2 emeralds in Sonic '06? Who does Team Dark work for in the animal world? Are they still free agents? What's the portal between worlds? Angel Island? Mystic Ruins? And will the Forces locations EVER be restored? Green Hill etc.? I'd love to know. This is actually what we need to know.

- More emotions and plot twists, mystery of course, which keeps the Readers hooked, less generic "fight the bad guy and stuff". Right now there is no mystery. Give us more complicated situations.

With that said, I am a fan fiction writer who's also planning a novel btw, but still, I don't think kids are not enjoying the book right now… it's simple, which means they probably like it.

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On 1/16/2019 at 6:37 PM, Kuzu the Boloedge said:

Wait, isn't one of the upcoming arcs about Sonic getting infected with a virus?

I'm worried about a virus problem. I can not find a good antivirus for my computer. I tried a few freebies. But it does not suit me. Now I consider avast vs mcafee. What are the thoughts?

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10 hours ago, Scritch the Cat said:

You missed my point.  Jack the Shadow said he was sure Honey would be in the next Classic Sonic game.  It's a safe bet that there is going to be one, given that Sonic Mania was very successful.  What is not a safe bet is that it will be a spin-off.  Classic Sonic got all manner of spin-offs pre-Dreamcast era because back then he was the Sonic, and at times popular enough to sell just about anything.  These days, though, it's Modern Sonic that gets the spin-offs and experimentation in the main series, while Classic Sonic is the branch that plays it more straight.  My question for Jack the Shadow is why he thinks a character made for a fighting spin-off is going to appear in what will most likely be Sega Genesis-style Sonic platformer.  Did he mis-speak?

Oh, okay.

No, I was responding to you.

4 hours ago, Jack the Shadow said:

. But I'm sure Sticks will get replaced by Cream or a new character.

 

How do you "replace" Sticks, nevermind in that specific projection? 

4 hours ago, Jack the Shadow said:

- Less fanservice, don't give the fans what they want, Ian should follow his instinct and competence, not listen to the fans and try to please them, when it's not possible.

 

So...don't listen to you?

Okie dokie!

4 hours ago, Jack the Shadow said:

- Try to find a loophole for the mandates,

That's usually what he's been doing, to be honest.

I'm not sure about this comic just yet, but that is a thing he tended to do.

 

 

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I actually like the little nods to the Games songs (I think that's the Fanservice we're talking about?) Ian's done this for awhile and it always puts a smile on my face honestly. Plus some of it like Rouge referencing the Never Look Back Lyrics I didn't even pick up on until someone pointed them out.

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45 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

I actually like the little nods to the Games songs (I think that's the Fanservice we're talking about?) Ian's done this for awhile and it always puts a smile on my face honestly. 

I mean, he kinda had to jump on What I'm Made Of.

46 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

Plus some of it like Rouge referencing the Never Look Back Lyrics I didn't even pick up on until someone pointed them out.

Hold up, when was this?

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Came after reading issue 13

I actually enjoy it  and seems Ian writing shines outside the boundaries of game stories . 

I'm very glad to see Tails teaming with Sonic , knocking down rough , it shows his physical strength from his two tails ,  he wasn't much of nerdy boy in this issue . 

 

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On 2/4/2019 at 11:13 PM, kimplix said:

Again, I'm all in for the three covers. Almost had accuracy of cover A from looks of it

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Love the third one.

The Sonic & Tails vs Rough & Tumble fight was fun in issue 13.

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Do you guys think the four extra pages actually helped the reception of this particular issue because, like, it had a bit more room to breathe? How many pages did the Archie Sonic generally have in comparison?

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21 minutes ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Do you guys think the four extra pages actually helped the reception of this particular issue because, like, it had a bit more room to breathe? How many pages did the Archie Sonic generally have in comparison?

wasn't even aware there were extra pages.

I remember Archie used to have 24 pages back when I first started reading, around 2007 or so. Then it dropped to 22. By the end of its run it was at 20 iirc.

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26 minutes ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Do you guys think the four extra pages actually helped the reception of this particular issue because, like, it had a bit more room to breathe? How many pages did the Archie Sonic generally have in comparison?

Oh shoot, did it?

Well, yes then. Guess that would explain why it felt like a full story with two consistent focuses.

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19 hours ago, StaticMania said:

I hope Dr. Starline doesn't break up with Eggman so soon. It's been one issue and he already seems on track to be disillusioned with his hero.

Never meet your heroes or idols, as the old saying goes. Starline may try to make it work for a little while, but will strike out on his own eventually. Either that, or get infected by this nanite stuff. 

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