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Just now, Jovahexeon Sonic Tangle said:

So you're gonna blame the alumni now for all this? I mean, blaming the company that hired them, suggests that they wasted money just to set up a joke on fans. Pardon me if I don't find IDW to be that deviously stupid.

No, I'm just pointing out how oddly ignorant the trigger of these arguments is.

4 minutes ago, Jovahexeon Sonic Tangle said:

Is there some reason why it should've been on an alternate cover?

To not break the streak of having Sonic team up with established game characters in order to overly hype up some new character over another/modern game character that is a fan favorite? (There'd still likely be arguments here, but still.)

 

Hell, looking at Sheep-girl's occasional reactions compared to Tangle's overall first impression is an uneven but fairly telling comparison.

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7 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

No, I'm just pointing out how oddly ignorant the trigger of these arguments is.

Coincidental at best, is more the word you're looking for. They're not really obligated to word things specifically so as to not trigger fans to conjure up an inkling that a silhouette is a character they perceive it to be.

I mean, even if they knew and that's a big IF, if they knew that section of comic fans would get riled, what reason would they have not to hype the character? Even if they knew, there is nothing to suggest it being done out of malice for Archie fans. Logically speaking, not hyping up that character for what is essentially a new IP in the making would've been strategically DUMB to do, just out of fear that fans would take it the wrong way. There are always going to be fans that complain or take things the wrong way.

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6 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

To not break the streak of having Sonic team up with established game characters in order to overly hype up some new character over another/modern game character that is a fan favorite? (There'd still likely be arguments here, but still.)

If you look closely at the cover Tangle's on, you'll see that Blaze is also on it. 

And if you look closely at the other cover Tangle's on, Tails is also on it.

They can do both, particularly going off the reactions from folks who didn't get overhyped from baseless assumptions. 

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11 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Hell, looking at Sheep-girl's occasional reactions compared to Tangle's overall first impression is an uneven but fairly telling comparison.

Eh? I haven't really noticed much of a difference, so I'm not sure what you mean by this.

15 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

'With Archie Alumni Ian Flynn, Tracy Yardley!, Evan Stanley, and Adam Bryce Thomas...!'

I see your point, but I'd argue it'd be much sillier if IDW / SEGA didn't bring in people that have already (for the lack of a better way to phrase it) "proved" themselves, and mentioning they were previously on Archie makes sense. They could've left that out but that would've been pretty conspicuous and then people'd be complaining about that, so...

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42 minutes ago, KoDaiko said:

I mean, Sonic Team seems to not be fond of past adaptations plus SonicX. Many know that ST wanted the FF gone and Ian had to negotiate/fight for them.  I don’t think having a long history doesn’t mean they’re relevant and must be there. The FF is from an old western adaptation. An AU, which some may see as obscure, so even if they were loved by fans they don’t have much importance as the game cast who are  base/source material and a must. Archie decided to use them and continue to post-reboot, IDW didn’t (for now). I mean, they can appear as minor characters or cameos, and Ian hinted he can introduce characters later on in the comic. Did you want them as the main characters like Archie?

Also the answer’s right there.

I think you’re angry because they’re not doing it how you want. You say “they’re not listening” but they are. Just not 100% on people who are attached and want them back. There are other people: those who don’t want them; people who would be happy if they're back but understand this is a separate new series; those who assumed FF was Archie OCs; and those who doesn't care as long as they get Sonic

Answers.

What I want are answers.

Answers for ARE THEY COMING, EVER?

I don't want them to come right now, I WANT TO KNOW IF THEY'RE COMING AT ALL.

I don't care if they're having even less paneltime than before, as long as the core is left intact.

Yes, I'm baffled for not getting answers. I'm baffled for not having any kind of closure, heck, even mangakas are often given a warning before their series are put to an end.

Yes, it can live its happy separate life, but it'll prolly need to do it without me.

And after I performed some self-studying about my preferences, I realised one thing;

the thing that made the stuff really interesting wasn't Sonic after all.

In the most deepest level of interesting, it was more about the environment he was in than Sonic himself.

I realised I really don't need this, since it feels like it wasn't about him, the other stuff is the stuff I'll miss the most.

I don't need the comics for a Sonic fix, I read them for other reasons, of course, Sonic made me pick them in the first place but the other stuff made it really interesting, interesting enough for me to keep on reading.

So excuse me being beyond reasonable, this comic seems to tell me it's either "my way or high way".

And I'll tell you I won't keep sitting and saying ok to that, even if I was to promised something awesome. I think I should just stick to my guns about this.

If I don't get answers, I'll keep on being too baffled for buying anything, I feel hurt.

Murr.

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They're not giving you answers because there aren't answers to give.

Sega owns the characters but probably isn't interested in using them right now. But they may allow IDW to use them in the future. Or they may not.

IDW can't come and say "we're not using these characters now but maybe some day" any more than they have already. If they start going on specifics, it won't calm people, it'll just get more rabble rabble "why are you saying you're not using Sally now if you say you can use her maybe in the future? Use her now!!!"

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21 minutes ago, MetalSkulkBane said:

... and that's good enough reason to be on this forum?

I would say yes. Sonic + Game Grumps makes me laugh. You can call me sadist, which I probably are, but yes, this is the reason I keep up with Sonic. Sonic is so bad, that he makes me laugh and gives me a good time. 

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7 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

Anserrrrrrs

You're getting the answers indirectly (the amount of skirting around it they're doing is pretty standard PR for "no", c'mon), you just don't want to acknowledge them because they aren't what you wanted. 

Also what KKM said, cuz KKM's a good dude

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28 minutes ago, orcaspla said:

banned- Once again this is why I bailed the first time. If you aren't falling in place with the anti-anything sonic cartoon-game related mods here then you get slammed. Apparently it is too much to ask that 5 cartoon characters get recurring screen timebut less than game originals.

bluesky, kellan, I don't know why you bother sticking around

FIrst things first, look at my profile pic, what do you think i wanted this comic to turn out to be?,  a direct continuation of post-SGW continuity is the answer btw,

Now, this is not what we are getting, and while i'm a bit disappointed, it's what i was expecting, until a shadowy figure appeared on a tease with Sally's head-shape-alike, i said "maybe" to myself, but did not hold my breath. While these characters (especially 'Twan) are some of my favorites they are not the only part of this franchise i like, and i'm sure they will live on via fan-art and fan-projects (like Sonic Origins for example), the only thing i want now from SEGA/IDW is a confirmation/deconfirmation on this subject to end it already. I will probably buy the first issues and give the new series a try, after all now it's way too early to say "I like it" or "I hate it" (i mean, we just got the solicits and a piece of concept art). To say there's no reason to be here if one's favorite character is not showing up anymore on the comics is not exactly what i'd call reasonable, of course this is a personal choice, but i wouldn't even started to post here in the first place if that was the case  , since i "reactivated" my account to discuss about Archie's delays (and eventual cancelation).

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51 minutes ago, Jack of Tangles said:

Uhm... I'm more affected by the loss of Breezie and Von Schlemmer (the reboot versions) and obviously some of Ian's characters than I am with the Freedom Fighters or Scratch and Grounder, except for maybe Nicole.

Hey, what happened to the other covers? Especially issue 3 and some others, they are still missing....

IDW takes their sweet time getting covers out. Chances are we won't see them until around the time they release.

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3 minutes ago, NikoS said:

FIrst things first, look at my profile pic, what do you think i wanted this comic to turn out to be?,  a direct continuation of post-SGW continuity is the answer btw,

Now, this is not what we are getting, and while i'm a bit disappointed, it's what i was expecting, 

Even though they said like, 5 times that it was a clean-slate!? 

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I would like to move on from the Freedom Fighters and discuss and speculate about Tangle's personality:

The IGN article has a description for her. She likes to "tangle" with enemies, so I guess get in conflict with them, to mess with their heads. She is also called a kindred spirit to Sonic (doesn't mean she will be a love interest), I read that somewhere, I think in the facebook group description. Definitely not another Sally. I also assume her name means more to it, like she will be intertwined with other people's stories. I'm looking forward to that!

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Just now, Tracker_TD said:

Even though they said like, 5 times that it was a clean-slate!? 

I was expecting that of a new comic at the time IDW didn't announced anything about it, as soon as i heard "clean state" i dropped that possibility, but it doesn't mean that it wasn't what i wanted.

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2 minutes ago, NikoS said:

I was expecting that of a new comic at the time IDW didn't announced anything about it, as soon as i heard "clean state" i dropped that possibility, but it doesn't mean that it wasn't what i wanted.

Aye, misread the post. My bluff. 

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14 minutes ago, SBR2 said:

IDW takes their sweet time getting covers out. Chances are we won't see them until around the time they release.

That likely explains why I haven't seen any plethora of #1 variant covers.  I was thinking it odd they hadn't pulled that inevitable move yet.

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15 minutes ago, Tracker_TD said:

Even though they said like, 5 times that it was a clean-slate!? 

It's worth remembering that the comic is not a clean-state, though. We're seeing a tie-up to Forces. Unless all the settings disappear after issue #4.

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