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4 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

So we have as artists: Tracey Yardley, Adam Bryce Thomas, Jen Hernandez, Evan Stanley, Jamal Peppers.

Who are the other artists you'd like to see?

I'd like to see Diana Skelly and Steven Butler.

Some of the Fleetway Artists. Heck, how about getting Heese on covers? Or even Ueda? I’d also like to see some new talent show up.

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On 3/26/2018 at 7:01 PM, Shadowlax said:

Ian didn't ruin him

The reboot shadow is one of the best shadows, he didn't even really make him emo. 

Unless you talking about pre-reboot. Then everyone is terrible in the pre-reboot. You think tails is bad now.... woo boy. We can have a discussion about " nice guy " tails

I hated how Shadow was everyones lap dog, Ian just flanderized him into his SA2 self than couldn't go 2 seconds without feeling sorry for himself because hes weak. I prefer 06 Shadow and Sonic Boom, Shadow shouldn't take shit from anyone or follow any orders unless it interests him.

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19 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

That's probably just your interpretation of Shadow the Hedgehog...and not a very interesting one.

No he's right. That's shadow, its just that he thinks shadow doesn't care about things. He does, the guy tries to help knuckles while fighting knuckles. 

The two mistakes a lot of people ...three mistakes is 

Thinking he cares about nothing

Thinking he's tsundere

And thinking he's just vegeta

If I had a dollar for anytime people made those mistakes... i wouldn't be like a billionaire but I could buy some cool stuff. Him being about his own shit, and only doing things he bothers to care for is interesting. Its just that people make the mistake in thinking... he doesn't care about anything.

42 minutes ago, Dash Speed said:

I hated how Shadow was everyones lap dog, Ian just flanderized him into his SA2 self than couldn't go 2 seconds without feeling sorry for himself because hes weak. I prefer 06 Shadow and Sonic Boom, Shadow shouldn't take shit from anyone or follow any orders unless it interests him.

He wasn't? 

He wasn't anywhere near is SA2 self? And was more inline with his sonic 06 self and shadow the hedgehog character, where he kind of felt bad for what he was and him being a monster and people not trusting him was sort of the crux of his character arc and development. It seems like you don't actually remember sonic 06, which I mean I don't blame you for not remembering sonic 06, it is what it is. 

Also shadow never felt sorry for himself because he was weak, at least in the reboot, he was quite literally one of the strongest and most capable characters in the whole thing. Ian on multiple occasions didn't include him in things because he would just solve the problem, or his cut to the chase nature ( which seems like is going to come up in the new book ) makes for bad " keeping the bad guy alive ". The only times he feels sorry for himself or is sad, is wondering that he is a monster , this is like the first thing that comes up when he talks to relic, and its the first thing that comes up in his arc in sonic universe? Did you even read those books, or were you upset shadow wasn't just kicking people in the face all the time

Also if you like boom shadow, you don't like shadow. You like vegeta, and that's fine if you like vegeta, veggie is cool. But he's not shadow, and that's a particularly bad version of shadow, only created because boom was a failure on so many fronts he didn't even get a chance to get a character.

The value to shadow is that despite being the guy who had a video game with a gun and cursing and thinking that was " mature" , he is infact a bit more mature than most of the sonic cast. He has feelings and emotions that vary, he's sad about himself and who he  is, he's been thruogh shit. He's changed and evovled into a better person, he has intrsopection and improvement. A long with being able to kick ass

And if you don't like that part of shadow. You don't actually like shadow, you like a vague idea of shadow, that you made up. Or you just like his design and his moveset. Which is totally fine, just... never engage with any sonic material with a narrative and just look at the punch parts and you will be golden

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10 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

End of Z Vegeta, maybe, if at all...

He's not even that. 

Like on a basic level shadow and vegeta are incomparable. Like if shadow and Vegeta had a conversation shadow would mention one time how he is afraid of his power, and vegeta would literally not understand. There are basic level things that they are incomparable on, and the only reason they get compared is because super forms exist and shadow is grumpy. Its also become pretty clear, if shadow is supposed to be any DBZ analogue , its the androids. 

10 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

Also what?

In the comic, while he is fighting knuckles. He is literally trying to do some therapy shit like " hey man you can find something else to live for "  he's trying to help him move on from this thing he decided he needed to do, because shadow felt like it wasn't worth it. Knuckles was kind of wasting his life, which is how rouge felt talking to knuckles earlier in the story and shadow feels like the world would be safer if that thing was under lock and key. He says this after saving knuckles from drowning

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20 hours ago, Ernest-Panda said:

Ben Bates recently got hired by Cartoon Network so he may be too busy.

He's also doing a five week Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles miniseries with his writing partner Dustin Weaver though.

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9 hours ago, Shadowlax said:

And thinking he's just vegeta

Also if you like boom shadow, you don't like shadow. You like vegeta, and that's fine if you like vegeta, veggie is cool. But he's not shadow, and that's a particularly bad version of shadow, only created because boom was a failure on so many fronts he didn't even get a chance to get a character.

Yeah, while fills a similar role in the broad public eye, he has more in common with Piccolo than anyone else.

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2 hours ago, goku262002 said:

The 5-page solicits have dropped eh?

Awesome to see this tradition still going after Archie.

Most Comics get previews. Wasn't going to go away.

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1 minute ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

What if they are like Miyamoto and think that story doesn't matter, and only use the comic to sell games?

This logic makes no sense. You think they'd go the bare back route after all their attempts to make interesting Sonic stories?

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10 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

This logic makes no sense. You think they'd go the bare back route after all their attempts to make interesting Sonic stories?

Yeah, exactly. "Attempts." What if they look at Mania's success and try to drop the story entirely? Plus there are mandates like the character development one, the emotional one, and the "Sonic always wins" one, which aren't the best for storytelling. They could have changed those, so we'll see. Sorry for mentioning mandates again, and I'm sure they won't affect the book greatly. I just think they're fucking stupid.  I'm just playing the what-if game here, and it's likely not to happen, but it does give something to think about

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55 minutes ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Yeah, exactly. "Attempts." What if they look at Mania's success and try to drop the story entirely? Plus there are mandates like the character development one, the emotional one, and the "Sonic always wins" one, which aren't the best for storytelling. They could have changed those, so we'll see. Sorry for mentioning mandates again, and I'm sure they won't affect the book greatly. I just think they're fucking stupid.  I'm just playing the what-if game here, and it's likely not to happen, but it does give something to think about

I hope Mania's success doesn't backfire on us.

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I want LORE, and STORIES, and EMOTIONS

+the action and fun and everything.

Side note: As much as Sonic Lost World was silly, I think it's the only game that got actual development for Sonic (every other game was revolved around other characters like Knuckles or Shadow or Chaos...)

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7 hours ago, PublicEnemy1 said:

Yeah, exactly. "Attempts." What if they look at Mania's success and try to drop the story entirely? Plus there are mandates like the character development one, the emotional one, and the "Sonic always wins" one, which aren't the best for storytelling. They could have changed those, so we'll see. Sorry for mentioning mandates again, and I'm sure they won't affect the book greatly. I just think they're fucking stupid.  I'm just playing the what-if game here, and it's likely not to happen, but it does give something to think about

It does, and it would show that Sonic Team/Sega have no idea the medium they’re in regarding comics.

I know some of the past mandates raised eyebrows, even if they were made with good intentions (although some of them like the “Sonic always wins” seemed ridiculous even considering the pre-Flynn era of Sonic), comics are entirely about story. Regardless of how it’s told, you literally cannot have a comic with a story of some kind. 

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