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44 minutes ago, VEDJ-F said:

I dunno, Luigi doesn't really have the feel of a sidekick. Brother, certainly, but it seems 95% of the time he's doing his own thing. 

There are several ways Luigi/Mario is different from Tails/Sonic combo.

For starters Mario is blank slate and Luigi's main function is having personality for him.

Secondly, Mario is so stupidly big that Luigi, Peach, Yoshi and bloody Toad can get their own games, not to mention RPGs or Mario parties, spin-offs where Mario role as Navel of the Universe isn't as obvious and his side cast that breath a little.

Thirdly, franchise is in theory called Mario BROS, at least pretending that Luigi is on similar importance. At very least, he's also an gaming icon, see point above about Mario size.

(On the other hand Mario franchise doesn't allow most of it's cast for expressing itself, but Luigi is one of few who get's away with it).

But on the subject, this is why I really liked plot of Rivals 2. It's not spectacular by any means, but it was so  nice seeing all those characters bounce-off each other, even a little.

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4 hours ago, VEDJ-F said:

I dunno, Luigi doesn't really have the feel of a sidekick. Brother, certainly, but it seems 95% of the time he's doing his own thing. 

Luigi certainly has the feel of a sidekick when he's written as one...which is most of the time they're adventuring together.

Getting to do his own thing is very much a sidekick thing...spot light adventure.

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I love how me casually mentioning that Tails is kinda boring compared to the other characters in response to @I Love Sticks spawned such a dissecting and in-depth discussion.

9 hours ago, silvereye27 said:

To sortof recontextualise this discussion, I do think it is worth pointing out though that in the IDW run thus far, every issue has been very much focused on Sonic, with issues #1-#4 and #8 basically being: Tails AND Sonic fight Badniks, Amy AND Sonic fight Badniks, Knuckles AND Sonic fight a pair of idiots, Blaze, Tangle AND Sonic fight Badniks, Silver, Whisper AND Sonic fight Badniks.

Again, it does seem like the upcoming 4 parter's plot will basically have basically the core Sonic game cast and Whisper and Tangle in one big battle, which could potentially lead into some actual sub plots, meaning that characters will be forced to fight Badniks with other people who are not Sonic. I am curious to see what interactions we get, especially with 2 newcomers.

Yeah, that is kinda the playing field, but honestly, I think it's a medium risk of being a sporadic clusterfuck.

 

7 hours ago, Shadowlax said:

Laughs in robin

So goddamn much, you don't even understand. 

To be fair, Robin is both a 50+ year old comic book character and a legacy character at that.

 

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2 hours ago, Unknown User said:

What do you guys think of Amy's characterization? I still prefer her STC self.

As slightly dressuppy as it may have been at one point, I do feel like this is one of the better characterizations of Amy. But then again, that could just as well be Issue 2 being the best and/or most fulfilling of the comic thus far.

Boom Amy is also an interesting re-imagining that was clearly one of the show's favorite characters to use, so that's a decent second/third.

Didn't get too far into StC, so no comment on Tomboy O'Rose.

And it's been a good while since I dedicatedly watched Sonic X, so I can't say much about that version other than I actually don't remember minding it too much.

Did I miss something?

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4 hours ago, DabigRG said:

To be fair, Robin is both a 50+ year old comic book character and a legacy character at that.

 

He started somewhere

They gave him a chance and that's how they gained that legacy. That's why there are 5 canonical goddamn robins. Its a good archetype you can spin off into several other archetypes on their own

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6 hours ago, Unknown User said:

What do you guys think of Amy's characterization? I still prefer her STC self.

I think it's the strongest it's ever been in any incarnation. But one thing I don't like is how she's still using her militaristic tone when speaking privately to characters like Sonic. Like, come on. He knows she wasn't always like this.

But at least this writer knows how to let the most relevant female Sonic character be feminine

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Just now, Unknown User said:

What do you guys think of Amy's characterization? I still prefer her STC self.

It could be better but its all right, the games from 2000 to 2008 and Sonic X had the best Amy characterization that's why I will always like it when Sonic Team is writing for her doesn't feel forced or like their trying to fix her as if she's broken like when others write for her.

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On 9/7/2018 at 10:36 AM, Unknown User said:

What do you guys think of Amy's characterization? I still prefer her STC self.

As far as this comic, I can't say much. Its not a complete fumble like shadow, nor is it enough information to indicate it being a slam dunk like her character right before the reboot happened at archie. Or some of her post archie existence. 

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22 hours ago, Scape said:

I think it's the strongest it's ever been in any incarnation. But one thing I don't like is how she's still using her militaristic tone when speaking privately to characters like Sonic. Like, come on. He knows she wasn't always like this.

But at least this writer knows how to let the most relevant female Sonic character be feminine

Amy feels redundant as a character and as a ideal when Sonic is around and being both as twice as entertaining with his hopeful and bright energy esqe attitude as hero.

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1 minute ago, Dash Speed said:

Amy feels redundant as a character and as a ideal when Sonic is around and being both as twice as entertaining with his hopeful and bright energy esqe attitude as hero.

"Sonic sucks and is reprehensible...unless he's compared to a girl like Amy, then he's a theatrical paragon"

 

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2 hours ago, Dash Speed said:

Amy feels redundant as a character and as a ideal when Sonic is around and being both as twice as entertaining with his hopeful and bright energy esqe attitude as hero.

 

Amy is smarter, more compassionate, more reliable and more versatile

but I love how you ride Shadow's grind rail 24/7 but are quick to hop off and start singing Sonic's praises just to attack Amy

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26 minutes ago, Scape said:

Oh you shouldn't have done this

Amy is smarter,

In what way, Sonic is more intelligent than her in Fighting, Athleticism, Protecting, Mechanical Issues, Being Naturing(Chao, E-Mel, Chip, Wisps), Problem Solving and overall Empathy(he managed to connect to a primordal eldtric force and two final bosses that were reality warping threats. 

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more compassionate,

Out of Compassion he helps Tails, the Flickies, the Chao's and Tikal, Emel, Cream, Elise, Blaze, Chip, Wisps, and the Avatar change their lives for the better. Thats more than Amy

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more reliable

Uh, no. Thats never gonna be the case. Rouge and Blaze is twice as reliable as Amy is. Sonic is the guy everyone relies on on a fundamental level and basically need him more than he needs them.

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 and more versatile

Sonic has like every way to create and invent new abilites with his speed alone, can wield omnipotent gem to enhance his already powerful self, can do any athletic feat imaginable, fly and fix his own plane, can play any cool instrument, can sword wield and learn on a pro level, can lead fights and teams, has already proven he's somewhat tech savvy and he's a expert in everyday personal altruism to the point he's known more for his good deeds to the common man than Amy is.

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but I love how you ride Shadow's rod 24/7 but are quick to hop off and start defending Sonic just to spite Amy

Amy is good and a great character, but she's no Sonic or Cream level in actual heroism or kindness.

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16 minutes ago, Dash Speed said:

 Mechanical Issues,

Being Naturing(Chao, E-Mel, Chip, Wisps),

overall Empathy(he managed to connect to a primordal eldtric force and two final bosses that were reality warping threats. 

Mechanical Issues?

Being "Naturing"(Nurturing?) in what sense? Also, Emerl linked up with nearly everyone--that was kinda his thing.

What are you referring to at the end there?

16 minutes ago, Dash Speed said:

 

Out of Compassion he helps Tails, the Flickies, the Chao's and Tikal, Emel, Cream, Elise, Chip, Wisps, and the Avatar change their lives for the better. Thats more than Amy

Uh, no. Thats never gonna be the case. Rouge and Blaze is twice as reliable as Amy is. Sonic is the guy everyone relies on on a fundamental level and basically need him more than he needs them.

Sonic has like every way to create and invent new abilites with his speed alone, can wield omnipotent gem to enhance his already powerful self, can to any athletic feat imaginable, fly a plane, can play any cool instrument, can sword wield and learn on a pro level, can lead fights and teams, has already proven he's somewhat tech savvy and he's a expert in everyday personal altruism to the point he's known more for his good deeds to the common man than Amy is.

 

Mm, fair enough

 

 

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On 9/8/2018 at 2:47 PM, Dash Speed said:

In what way, Sonic is more intelligent than her in Fighting, Athleticism, Protecting, Mechanical Issues, Being Naturing(Chao, E-Mel, Chip, Wisps), Problem Solving and overall Empathy(he managed to connect to a primordal eldtric force and two final bosses that were reality warping threats. 

Out of Compassion he helps Tails, the Flickies, the Chao's and Tikal, Emel, Cream, Elise, Blaze, Chip, Wisps, and the Avatar change their lives for the better. Thats more than Amy

Uh, no. Thats never gonna be the case. Rouge and Blaze is twice as reliable as Amy is. Sonic is the guy everyone relies on on a fundamental level and basically need him more than he needs them.

Sonic has like every way to create and invent new abilites with his speed alone, can wield omnipotent gem to enhance his already powerful self, can do any athletic feat imaginable, fly and fix his own plane, can play any cool instrument, can sword wield and learn on a pro level, can lead fights and teams, has already proven he's somewhat tech savvy and he's a expert in everyday personal altruism to the point he's known more for his good deeds to the common man than Amy is.

Amy is good and a great character, but she's no Sonic or Cream level in actual heroism or kindness.

Because he is the main character

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