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22 minutes ago, Marco9966 said:

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It's the same base, but is Mystic ruins in animal world or human world in the comics?

No, I knew that immediately.

What I didn't remember was that the Final Egg was in the human world.

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2 hours ago, Conquering Storm’s Servant said:

 

Regardless, I still wonder what people look at when it comes to the characters, because people phrase it as if it only a matter of whether they’re from the games or not. Or in the case of the general franchise, whether they’re from the Genesis era or post-Genesis at times. Sure, it’s really just the more vocal, but that still further begs the question of what the problem is and what is it that they elaborate on caring about. You know as much as I do that people don’t often practice what they preach when questioned, so that’s why I bring this up.


I, personally, don't mind the freedom fighters but just from an outsider or casual reader's perspective I'd be a bit put off if I wanted to read about the Sonic cast and got some unfamiliar characters instead. I warmed up to a lot of the original creations and decided that some of them are pretty endearing in their own right, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in the comics in the first place to expand on some of the game characters I was interested in. Blaze and Tikal are my favorite Sonic characters, and there just isn't a ton of content focused around them even now. 

People have different perspectives on these things and while it's good to be open minded I have no trouble at all understanding some people's hesitance. 

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47 minutes ago, Celestia said:

Or they took a portal off-screen!

Yeah honestly I don't think it's ever going to be addressed. Well just be in locations from various games without any real explanation. 

I don't really think it matters all that much. Sonic just runs from place to place anyway. I mean don't get me wrong I'd love a more concrete explanation I just don't think it's a major thing.

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1 hour ago, Earnest-Panda said:

>points out the Final Egg location several posts ago

>one person acknowledges it with a like but nobody else talks about it

>someone else points out Final Egg location

>everyone starts talking about it

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But anyway, either this means Mystic Ruins is on the animal world somehow, or “two worlds” does, in fact, not mean “two different planets”.

Didn't he kinda already address that?

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A: Ya, because Modern Sonic is set with two worlds, that’s where the comic is going to be. When the reboot happened in the old comic, had I known about the two-worlds things, that’s where we would have been to begin with because that’s the standard the game set, that is what they have. The whole reason why we got away with it being just one planet is because we never really specified where we were when we were getting those scripts approved. It’s like, ya, now we are over here with GUN. Where are we again? Where over at this place, we don’t really need to worry what planet it’s on.

He's referring to Archie, but main thing is that they go places and it doesn't really matter how they get there or what planet they're on. And he said "planet", so.. two planets. Unless something has changed.

Dr. Starlight is a science guy, isn't he? Maybe he has a portal. Maybe everyone has a portal, and it's just normal. It's a thing, it's just not going to be talked about. Just like the games! :D

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13 minutes ago, Earnest-Panda said:

Except it clearly has a train service connecting it to the human-inhabited Station Square.

Its not connected to station square anymore, its connected to " Animal City "

Also its an eggman based, he literally could have just moved it

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12 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

Its not connected to station square anymore, its connected to " Animal City "

They never really establish where it is in the comic. Like everything else.

Also, the Final Egg was located to the Mystic Ruins, which in turn had a train service connected to Station. The portion that was actually where Angel Island  landed is limited to the mountain, from what I understand.

12 minutes ago, Shadowlax said:

Also its an eggman based, he literally could have just moved it

True. In fact, you kinda have to wonder when he set up shop there .

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6 hours ago, DabigRG said:

That's pretty much how Mr. Flynn plans to get it airborne, for the time being.

It's probably for the best. When you try to explain these things you risk it either being overly convoluted or it later being contradicted. Such is the way of doing licensed comics. 

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16 hours ago, Kazhnuz said:

Same for Sticks. Her basic story is simple enough to be integrated. They could even play more on the "wild" side of Sticks, making that they didn't have many contact with civilisation before Eggman's invasion, and use that as a cause of her paranoia. If the first thing you see of the civilisation is a megalomaniac conqueror, it might be some normal reaction.

That was sorta implied to have been the case in Boom.

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I'm actually just working with the same old idea that everything is set on one world still. I know that's not actually the case according to Iizuka's ever changing headcanon but I feel as though the relevance this two worlds thing is going to have on the games and comics is tantamount to the same effect it's had up until this point.

Which is virtually nothing. 

The Classic Sonic being from another dimension was acknowledged but this human world and animal world bullshit hasn't. In fact, Shadow and Rouge carry on in Forces as though they're still agents on a mission working for GUN despite the organization not being named at all. I suppose it could be a new organization. Like the Animal Guardian Unit of Nations or "A-GUN".

Call me crazy but I feel like the games and comics are gonna carry on as though it's not even a thing that exists. Or better yet, do something that actively contradicts it like having City Escape with the GUN truck reappear in a game where Green Hill and Chemical Plant exist. 

Figuring out how this makes sense is mental gymnastics that I don't need to do at this point so until it's actually acknowledged within the games I'm not going to. 

I feel like this is going to be a rather successful experiment. You all should try it out with me. See just how much this knowledge actually affects what's going to happen going forward. After all, it's not like I had no reason to suspect other animal characters weren't around in games like Unleashed and the Adventures because, hey, Sonic's friends were there. I also had no reason to suspect other human characters weren't around in Forces because, hey, Eggman was there.

The only way I see this being relevant is if the games outright acknowledge it and seal the deal. Showcase them moving to and from the two worlds or even just bring it up in conversation.

But in a world where we can only find out why Knuckles is leading the resistance and why Silver is in the past again through supplementary material they post on their twitter, I'm not holding my breath. 

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I'm fond of the theory that the whole thing is a result of mistranslation. Like two worlds was meant figuratively as in different cultures or regions.

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1 minute ago, Cuz said:

I'm fond of the theory that the whole thing is a result of mistranslation. Like two worlds was meant figuratively as in different cultures or regions.

I'm hoping that's the case. It does seem like it cuz they don't give enough detail that the two world thing is literally.

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I've started to embrace the whole two worlds idea because I like the notion of Sonic being such an adventurer that one world isn't enough for him. It's unnecessary, sure, but I don't think it causes as many contradictions as people think. If I had my way with the franchise I'd go all out and have Sonic constantly go to new worlds.

That said I am curious to see if the comic is going to finally shed some light on the whole thing in any way.

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28 minutes ago, VEDJ-F said:

If Ian has been explicitly told it's two worlds by higher-ups, it's not a mistranslation. 

Why? Why can it not be a mistranslation? Sega is fairly ill-organized, which means a mistranslation is indeed possible.

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13 minutes ago, Miragnarok said:

Why? Why can it not be a mistranslation? Sega is fairly ill-organized, which means a mistranslation is indeed possible.

12 minutes ago, VEDJ-F said:

Because they wouldn't mistranslate orders in-house. 

I'm sure the rule was stated in several sentences/a paragraph. There are also several interviews that mention the two worlds. I'm sure they can't keep mistranslating something important like that, especially with this much public attention.

I mean, if it WAS a mistranslation, wouldn't Ian (or anyone else who's close enough to correct the public) figuring it out by now? Especially Ian, since Sega would want him to follow the rules, and he'd want to clarify as much detail to find loopholes and creative ways to interpret. 

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Why ask the higher ups to clarify something if none of your immediate pitches touch on, or incorporate it?

I mean, Ian's a master at tap dancing around these situations where he can.

 

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