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43 minutes ago, StaticMania said:

We'll never see it, except for the times we've seen it over the years to the point where this discussion comes up quite often.

I mean in an actual game, comic, or cartoon, not concept art from 1998.

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On 1/2/2019 at 12:39 PM, Adamis said:

Just curious, but do you read US comics outside of Sonic ?

Interesting to bring that. I personally don't. I have no interest in comics in general, only in Sonic and had a mild curiosity when Megaman's comic was still alive. I'm way more familiar with manga.

1 hour ago, DabigRG said:

Didn't mean to bump too many of these, but I just wanted to say I forgot how good NICOLE's New252 design was.

It's an alright outfit, but I think it kinda removes one of her unique traits when comparing her against the main cast, which is the dark fur in the edge of the limbs. also, Nicole is an name, not an acronym

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1 hour ago, Korke said:

It's an alright outfit, but I think it kinda removes one of her unique traits when comparing her against the main cast, which is the dark fur in the edge of the limbs. also, Nicole is an name, not an acronym

Huh...oh, you mean like her hands and heel areas?

And that's how it was spelled on the wiki for a while.

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I don't know personally I don't really care about Sonic characters feet. The blobs don't bother me though I will admit the paw like feet in pre-reboot Archie were a good work around. They resemble blob feet but have toes.

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2 hours ago, StaticMania said:

Big the Cat.

Tikal the Cat.

And Tikal the Echidna.

Okay. I'd rather not see it changed to something more realistic due to this series' already unfortunate and bizarre association with weird fetishes, but if you guys would rather have the characters even more anthropomorphic, then that's your perogative.

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Just be careful what you wish for.

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I didn't even know those characters were supposed to be wearing sandals for years. Does that mean Knuckles is too?

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1 hour ago, Panda in a Pear Tree said:

That image wouldn’t look nearly as disturbing if the proportions were actually correct.

I KNOW RIGHT! I get the Kirby vibes from it because of that....*Shuddering*

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11 hours ago, Maxtiis said:

I didn't even know those characters were supposed to be wearing sandals for years. Does that mean Knuckles is too?

Same here. I've wondered about Knuckles as well because of it.

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5 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Same here. I've wondered about Knuckles as well because of it.

This render from the Sonic Channel shows Knuckles's shoes with wear similar to Sonic's, which looked like chipped metal, so I'm going to assume that he's not wearing sandals.

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And just for the sake of moving on from this discussion and staying on topic, can anyone actually recommend IDW's take on Sonic? After being unable to find any issues physically in my area I decided not to bother, but I'm still curious as to its quality.

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21 minutes ago, Maxtiis said:

This render from the Sonic Channel shows Knuckles's shoes with wear similar to Sonic's, which looked like chipped metal, so I'm going to assume that he's not wearing sandals.

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Yeah, I realize that, but I was thinking more in the sense of whether they were originally intended to be sandals at one point. After all, it does occasionally bother me how they seemingly get Knuckles red shoes when he himself is already red.

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2 minutes ago, DabigRG said:

Yeah, I realize that, but I was thinking more in the sense of whether they were originally intended to be sandals at one point. After all, it does occasionally bother me how they seemingly get Knuckles red shoes when he himself is already red.

Maybe it was like with Tails's shoes and the red was just to make them more akin to Sonic's. I've never come across any design documents that mention anything other than him having a Jamaican color scheme, probably to represent his origin from an exotic island, so your guess is as good as mine.

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6 minutes ago, Maxtiis said:

Maybe it was like with Tails's shoes and the red was just to make them more akin to Sonic's.

I guess.

 

6 minutes ago, Maxtiis said:

 I've never come across any design documents that mention anything other than him having a Jamaican color scheme, probably to represent his origin from an exotic island, so your guess is as good as mine.

I know he was also apparently gonna be green at one point, which makes the green sock things suspectible, and I think the hat he wears in the OVA was also an early idea.

Oh and that he was allegedly gonna have a Jamaican accent, but the juries out on that one..

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I personally think, if the characters have fingers, then they should also have toes. Kirby for example has nor fingers, technically he doesn't even have hands, there for on his feet his doesn't have any toes, so that it fit with the rest of his design. Some Kirby characters like Bonkers for example have fingers and also toes. 

I personally think that giving the Sonic characters toes wouldn't really hurt their design. Human characters like Eggman for example kinda need to have toes. I wouldn't make a big fuzz about it, if all the characters would wear shoes all the time, but some of them do not like Tikal and Big. And that looks so weird to me. 

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6 minutes ago, Rowl said:

I wouldn't make a big fuzz about it, if all the characters would wear shoes all the time, but some of them do not like Tikal and Big. And that looks so weird to me. 

I kinda think the lack of toes there is partially due to wanting to maintain some cohesive look amongst most of the characters.

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51 minutes ago, Maxtiis said:

And just for the sake of moving on from this discussion and staying on topic, can anyone actually recommend IDW's take on Sonic? After being unable to find any issues physically in my area I decided not to bother, but I'm still curious as to its quality.

I ran into the same problem and just started buying them online.

I could recommend the comic - with a few reservations. Losing all the character dynamics and world building from the end of the Archie run is a gut punch when you have to essentially start all over with IDW. You immediately miss out on the intensity left behind from characters like Cassia, Clove and Nephy. There is no air apparent to fill in that tension void of being forced to play both sides (and there can't be for at least a little while) which makes the starting plots a bit more black and white and a certainly more shallow. Sonic and his pals are more or less free to do their thing with less consequences and fallout. The new comic needs to set the ground work before it can get back to that kind of storytelling. The new characters are fun, and you can see Ian seeding more stuff for the future... its just gotta have time to get there. 

Aside from the lost assets, I feel like the new comic is quite enjoyable. The artists are given much more room to do what they do best (there seems to be much more focus on art over dialog for stretches) and there are a handful of issues that already stand as some of the best drawn pieces Sonic's ever had. ABT is a beast. Aside from Hesse's work on Mega Drive, I hanen't seen art this good in a Sonic comic since the days of Axer and Spaz. If your a fan of the artwork, there is enough here to get excited about. If you just cherry pick his issues you wont be disappointed.

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1 hour ago, Maxtiis said:

And just for the sake of moving on from this discussion and staying on topic, can anyone actually recommend IDW's take on Sonic? After being unable to find any issues physically in my area I decided not to bother, but I'm still curious as to its quality.

Really it depends on who you ask. Personally I find the book fun for the most part it's not exactly as deep as Archie got but I'm enjoying it as a fun ride with characters I enjoy. 

I don't really know what to say other than its a fun read that's very in character for everyone and the new characters are pretty cool. 

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10 hours ago, Marco9966 said:

When do we get the previews for issue 12 and covers for issue 13?

The preview will be a week before the issue release, on January 9th. It got delayed a further week. 

1 hour ago, DabigRG said:

Yeah, I realize that, but I was thinking more in the sense of whether they were originally intended to be sandals at one point. After all, it does occasionally bother me how they seemingly get Knuckles red shoes when he himself is already red.

At no point were they supposed to be sandals. I think the issue is that the jump from classic to modern altered the shoe design in a way that became ambiguous to read. Classic Knuckles' shoes are more like yellow shoes with red heel and toe, as opposed to red shoes with a yellow stripe. 

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2 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

I ran into the same problem and just started buying them online.

I could recommend the comic - with a few reservations. Losing all the character dynamics and world building from the end of the Archie run is a gut punch when you have to essentially start all over with IDW. You immediately miss out on the intensity left behind from characters like Cassia, Clove and Nephy. There is no air apparent to fill in that tension void of being forced to play both sides (and there can't be for at least a little while) which makes the starting plots a bit more black and white and a certainly more shallow. Sonic and his pals are more or less free to do their thing with less consequences and fallout. The new comic needs to set the ground work before it can get back to that kind of storytelling. The new characters are fun, and you can see Ian seeding more stuff for the future... its just gotta have time to get there. 

Aside from the lost assets, I feel like the new comic is quite enjoyable. The artists are given much more room to do what they do best (there seems to be much more focus on art over dialog for stretches) and there are a handful of issues that already stand as some of the best drawn pieces Sonic's ever had. ABT is a beast. Aside from Hesse's work on Mega Drive, I hanen't seen art this good in a Sonic comic since the days of Axer and Spaz. If your a fan of the artwork, there is enough here to get excited about. If you just cherry pick his issues you wont be disappointed.

Yeah I hear that people seem to like Tangle and Whisper a good deal, and they're both well designed so I'd imagine the rest of the artwork follows suit. Thanks for the write out though; if I find a copy somewhere I suppose I'll start my collection anew. At least with Archie finished I can conceivably collect all the issues from it someday

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